I get that this is about the utterly painful sufferings of Koreans during the most devastating times, but did…
Tv tropes on standalone episode,
"An episode that can stand alone on its own with a self-contained story that does not need prior viewing of any other episode to understand. It's usually an episode that breaks from the current arc to focus on a one-shot subplot or character"
Let me tell you something episode 7 is a standalone episode. As stated in the aforementioned quote a standalone episode focus on one sub-plot or character. So the entire ep7 had to be about one particular event focusing on a single character.
"Hansu's story should also have been shown in parallel with others, from the beginning, little by little"
Bad idea. Pachinko is an epic family saga. The story that's being told in parallel is that of the family, a family that started with Sunja. Hansu is necessarily an outsider. His story being told in parallel with Sunja's immediate family seems senseless.
"The problem it had been a single feelings for 6 episode but then you are unable to relate those with the 7th."
Again a standalone episode is ought to be distinctive. You're supposed to not feel the same watching a standalone episode as the other episodes. It has to be disjointed.
"Again, personally, I didn't like a detailed"
Critics however rated ep7 higher than others but to each their own!
"For the long 6 episodes, he wasn't even worthy of a supporting character, I mean his screenshare was very limited."
If that's the case then upto ep6 kyunghee, isak , mozasu weren't worthy of being a supporting character since they had no more screentime than Hansu.
"Morever, he was a jerk who did dirty to the Central character."
There is no such rules that we're only supposed to know more about the google characters. It's ridiculous.
"Despite his miserable past, it just didn't sit with me dedicating an entire episode to him."
Something that's upto the production team to decide. Looking at the result,(reviews from top critics hailing the episode as an undisputed masterpiece) it's worth it.
"Is it bcs LMH is the most popular star among them and he needed a focused exposure for 50 minutes? If it is, I hate it. Could have casted another familiar face other than him."
I have already answered that the script was finalized before finalizing the cast. Also the sole idea that lmh can even have the power to demand a solo episode is beyond ridiculous.
Also I've previously stated rather than being simply cast he had to pass an audition. If one of the other contenders could do better than lmh then they would have landed the role in place of lmh , and say the guy to whom lmh lost were a total newcomer with no fame then standalone ep7 would start the no-name guy offering the same content.
I get that this is about the utterly painful sufferings of Koreans during the most devastating times, but did…
You're completely wrong 😪
The entire script of season 1 was written before they cast anyone. Filming began within a month of finalizing the principal cast.
Also rather than being cast lmh like everybody else had to pass a rigorous audition to land the role. According to show runner Soo Hugh there were several other established actors who auditioned for Hansu , as LMH did it best he was this cast.
Here you go , nothing was changed for lmh, no sub story was created to appease him.
2 complaints to make. First the production team barely has anyone who is Korean. Second, the subtitles team has…
OUCH! I've watched over 115 Korean movies and 100 of kdramas lol.
If we're talking about Korean movies depicting Japanese colonial era then vast majority of the movies are about a group Korean risking their lives in spy mission or guerrilla warfare ( Assassination, Age of Shadows) or epic battle ( The battle Roar To Victory ). You tell me how many notables film are here depicting day to day life suffering of ordinary people?
And Pachinko , first and foremost follow a Zainichi family. Here's significant difference between a Korean and Zainichi family.
"Korea makes shows with the most historical accuracy than any other industry"
Not sure where you're getting your information form but I suggest you double check. Do you know that the most recent notable kdrama that took place during japanese occupational era Mr Sunshine came under fire cause of its historical inaccuracy?
Pachinko on the other is universally praised for it's historical accuracy. Actually 40 historians reviewed the script beforehand to ensure that it is historically accurate. Rest assured something like this won't took place to ensure authenticity of a kdrama.
Netflix actually backed down from pachinko's bidding because of the astronomical budget ( reportedly 130 million+) . If you still think kdrama industry could have pulled it off then okay.
2 complaints to make. First the production team barely has anyone who is Korean. Second, the subtitles team has…
The videos are extracted from apple tv plus without s ubtitles. On Apple TV Plus is entirely different. It's color coded.
Pachinko belongs to Apple TV Plus, not to Apple TV plus Korea.
In my humble opinion it wouldn't be possibly better if it's a Korean production. Kdrama industry don't have the vision or resource to pull off something of this scale yet
2 complaints to make. First the production team barely has anyone who is Korean. Second, the subtitles team has…
Are you watching on Apple TV Plus? Haven't seen anything wrong with the official subtitles. However in third party sitese subtitles are messed up.
Almost no Korean in production team is expected since the drama is American. However many of the key people involved in the production are of Korean descent
An episode that can stand alone on its own with a self-contained story that does not need prior viewing of any other episode to understand. It's usually an episode that breaks from the current arc to focus on a one-shot subplot or character
Being disjointed to the main plot is necessary to qualify as a standalone episode.
“Pachinko has a subtle, melancholic feel and he can't pull it off ... not nearly the acting ability to pull…
“ he's paired with a rookie in Kim Min Ha who is receiving praise... that is telling.”
LMH name is being mentioned as one of the possible EMMY nominees that is telling. Critics of biggest Hollywood news medias gave him straight A+ that's telling, when other actors of pachinko bar yyj and kmh are barely praised in critics reviews although someone has way more screen time than him and the other one appeared in several emotional scenes yet failed to make an impression on the critics while lmh with his limited screen time did so
“Pachinko has a subtle, melancholic feel and he can't pull it off ... not nearly the acting ability to pull…
" Most of the praise seems to be for Kim Min Ha and Youn Yuh Jung. The scenes that get praise for acting don't seem to involve Lee Min Ho - like Sunja leaving her family as one example of a scene that received praise."
Yet the episode that's got the best review from critics is episode 7, lmh's standalone episode. If his acting was lacking in any way then ep7 won't be the most powerful and daring episode of the entire series. Here is something else I'll like to tell you. KMH and YYJ are the leads of the drama where lmh is playing a supporting character, kmh- yyj has far more scenes compared to LMH, he literally had two scene in ep4 and a 30 second cameo in ep 5. Also from where are you getting that his scenes aren't among the most acclaimed when literally the 30 sec of him were trending in the qoo hot category, hundreds of comments praising lmh's acting? Do you just keep up witjwhat supports your opinion only?
“Pachinko has a subtle, melancholic feel and he can't pull it off ... not nearly the acting ability to pull…
Hollywood Reporter and Indiewire are among the most prominent Hollywood news medias. Are you being serious right now?
“The major publications have basically glossed over Lee Min Ho almost entirely”
Just gave you a list of major publications praising lmh's acting but oh well.
Here are some more :
“Lee Min-Ho, known for being an endearing romantic lead, is exceptional as the antihero Koh Hansu” The AV Club
“Fantastic Performance” Vulture "Lee plays a Hansu that is both tender and cynical, adding dimension to a character that in print seemed more villainous" Forbes
I wish they would have found someone who looked like Lee Min Ho and had the ability to act. The few dramas I've…
Pachinko is neither in your cw nor on your on hold list yet you seem to have something to say about one specific actor's performance in the series. Peculiar, I must say
"An episode that can stand alone on its own with a self-contained story that does not need prior viewing of any other episode to understand. It's usually an episode that breaks from the current arc to focus on a one-shot subplot or character"
Let me tell you something episode 7 is a standalone episode. As stated in the aforementioned quote a standalone episode focus on one sub-plot or character. So
the entire ep7 had to be about one particular event focusing on a single character.
"Hansu's story should also have been shown in parallel with others, from the beginning, little by little"
Bad idea. Pachinko is an epic family saga. The story that's being told in parallel is that of the family, a family that started with Sunja. Hansu is necessarily an outsider. His story being told in parallel with Sunja's immediate family seems senseless.
"The problem it had been a single feelings for 6 episode but then you are unable to relate those with the 7th."
Again a standalone episode is ought to be distinctive. You're supposed to not feel the same watching a standalone episode as the other episodes. It has to be disjointed.
"Again, personally, I didn't like a detailed"
Critics however rated ep7 higher than others but to each their own!
"For the long 6 episodes, he wasn't even worthy of a supporting character, I mean his screenshare was very limited."
If that's the case then upto ep6 kyunghee, isak , mozasu weren't worthy of being a supporting character since they had no more screentime than Hansu.
"Morever, he was a jerk who did dirty to the Central character."
There is no such rules that we're only supposed to know more about the google
characters. It's ridiculous.
"Despite his miserable past, it just didn't sit with me dedicating an entire episode to him."
Something that's upto the
production team to decide.
Looking at the result,(reviews from top critics hailing the episode as an undisputed masterpiece)
it's worth it.
"Is it bcs LMH is the most popular star among them and he needed a focused exposure for 50 minutes? If it is, I hate it. Could have casted another familiar face other than him."
I have already answered that the script was finalized before finalizing the cast. Also the sole idea that lmh can even have the power to demand a solo episode is beyond ridiculous.
Also I've previously stated rather than being simply cast he had to pass an audition.
If one of the other contenders could do better than lmh then they would have landed the role in place of lmh , and say the guy to whom lmh lost were a total newcomer with no fame then standalone ep7 would start the no-name guy offering the same content.
wrong 😪
The entire script of season 1 was written before they cast anyone. Filming began within a month of finalizing the principal cast.
Also rather than being cast lmh like everybody else had to pass a rigorous audition to land the role.
According to show runner Soo Hugh there were several other established actors who auditioned for Hansu , as LMH did it best he was this cast.
Here you go , nothing was changed for lmh, no sub story was created to appease him.
If we're talking about Korean movies depicting Japanese colonial era then vast majority of the movies are about a group
Korean risking their lives in spy mission or
guerrilla warfare ( Assassination, Age of Shadows) or epic battle ( The battle Roar To
Victory ). You tell me how many notables film are here depicting day to day life suffering of ordinary people?
And Pachinko , first and foremost
follow a Zainichi family. Here's significant difference between a Korean and Zainichi family.
"Korea makes shows with the most historical accuracy than any other
industry"
Not sure where you're getting your information form but I suggest you double check. Do you know that the most recent notable kdrama that took place during japanese occupational era Mr Sunshine came under fire cause of its historical inaccuracy?
Pachinko on
the other is universally praised for it's historical accuracy. Actually 40 historians reviewed the script beforehand to ensure that it is historically accurate. Rest assured something like this won't took place to ensure authenticity of a kdrama.
Netflix actually
backed down from pachinko's bidding because of the astronomical budget ( reportedly 130 million+) . If you still think kdrama industry could have pulled it off then okay.
ubtitles. On Apple TV Plus is entirely different. It's color coded.
Pachinko belongs to Apple TV Plus, not to
Apple TV plus Korea.
In my humble opinion it wouldn't be possibly better if it's a Korean production.
Kdrama industry don't have the vision or resource to pull off something of this scale yet
Almost no Korean in production team is expected since the drama is American. However many of the key people involved in the production are of Korean descent
Now about standalone episode,
An episode that can stand alone on its own with a self-contained story that does not need prior viewing of any other episode to understand. It's usually an episode that breaks from the current arc to focus on a one-shot subplot or character
Being disjointed to the main plot is
necessary to qualify as a standalone episode.
To harbor hatred for a celebrity who is so far unproblematic? Deranged definitely.
LMH name is being mentioned as one of the possible EMMY nominees that is telling. Critics of biggest Hollywood news medias gave him straight A+ that's telling, when other actors of pachinko bar yyj and kmh are barely praised in critics reviews although someone has way more screen time than him and the other one appeared in several emotional scenes yet failed to make an impression on the critics while lmh with his limited screen time did so
Most of the praise seems to be for Kim Min Ha and Youn Yuh Jung. The scenes that get praise for acting don't seem to involve Lee Min Ho - like Sunja leaving her family as one example of a scene that received praise."
Yet the episode that's got the best review from critics is episode 7, lmh's standalone episode. If his acting was lacking in any way then ep7 won't be the most powerful and daring episode of the entire series. Here is something else I'll like to tell you. KMH and YYJ are the leads of the drama where lmh is playing a supporting character, kmh- yyj has far more scenes compared to LMH, he literally had two scene in ep4 and a 30 second cameo in ep 5. Also from where are you getting that his scenes aren't among the most acclaimed when literally the 30 sec of him were trending in the qoo hot category, hundreds of comments praising lmh's acting? Do you just keep up witjwhat supports your opinion only?
“The major publications have basically glossed over Lee Min Ho almost entirely”
Just gave you a list of major publications praising lmh's acting but oh well.
Here are some more :
“Lee Min-Ho, known for being an endearing romantic lead, is exceptional as the antihero Koh Hansu”
The AV Club
“Fantastic Performance”
Vulture
"Lee plays a Hansu that is both tender and cynical, adding dimension to a character that in print seemed more villainous"
Forbes