timehascome

It was the "next" Jaewoo - the one saved by Ji-Hoon during the series (after he was visited by "previous" Jaewoo). So they created a time loop of some kind. Now this next Jaewoo will go back to Ji-Hoo again whe he is 25. Kind of like a multiverse. The older Jaewoo lives on in his time and space, the new one will go back and create another storyline I guess.

When you think about a standard good ending would be easier! Just go on a trip or kill the bad guy (if head count needs to be right). Or just have him arrested and live on together somewhere, sometime. I want another drama as good as this one but with a happy ending!

And I agree, not taking the kid to the police and not saying anything to his mother was stupid!

I really liked ep9! It was almost perfect! Long post, sorry.

1. They're acting like adults now! When Nubsib came for Gene and stopped the kiss he didn't argue with Gene afterwards. There was no drama "I told you not to get close to him! How could you go?" "Oh, you should've told me the reason!" etc. They got back home, talked a bit and done. They both knew what each of them did wrong, they both knew they care about each other. Nubsib isn't totally overprotective or possessive. Really nice!

2. I don't get the viagra plot (why Gene didn't tell Nubsib?) but I like how they approached sex. Nubsib pushed for it and I think that's okay considering Gene's character. But he told Gene he can wait. Gene had the space to say 'no'. That's it! Iit's not wrong to want sex but both people needs to want it. It someone doesn't want it you wait (or talk and try to understand why). The only line that's need fixing is "I won't let you change your mind" or something. You can always change your mind. If Gene said he wants to stop in the middle of it then Nubsib would (and should) stop. I'm really sick of the dramas that have lines like "If you do it like that I won't be able to stop." or "I'm not stoping tonight". So this scene in Lovely Writer is great!

3. Next day - kinda cringy for me but okay. And they talked it out. I like that they talked it out and there is no awkwardness between them. Again - being adults! And it's not surprising that in the evening it happens again. I was often surprised (in Why R U for example) when they said stuff like "I'll do it only once with you. I don't need more". Is it supposed to be expression of true love or...? I get that there're relationships where there little to none sex but it wasn't the case in Why R U for sure. And everyone knew it from the start.

4. Coming out - I really like how Nubsib didn't ask Gene to do it or didn't even ask "Do you want to do it?". He just responded when Gene said he wants to tell their parents. And since the beginning Nubsib was reassuring Gene that he will'be with him no matter what. I like his attitude "I'm ready when you're."
I also really like the fact that Gene decided he wants to do it and they actually did it despite the atmosphere during the dinner. I appreciate that parents didn't start the drama but kept calm. I mean "it's something". Maybe not much. I'm not sure if it's because they were calm or because they think it's best to deal with it "in private".

The only thing I'm missing and would love to see is one of the parents reaching out to Nubsib and Gene. It would be perfect if one of the parents said something like "I'm not totally okay. I need some time to process it but I love you and I want you to be happy." For me it sounds reassuring and can really give space to both parties involved. I think majority of people coming out to their parents (people with parents around 65 years old now) don't expect full acceptation from the get go. They know it can be hard for their parents who has their own believes. But admitting that you need time to get used to it is okay. And it gives the child a signal that it's okay, they're loved and will be accepted. It might be awkward for some time but it's not because of them. To be honest I expected it from Gene's mother seeing how she tried to "understand" youngsters. But maybe she was trying to understand it because she found out about dad's dating life? On Nubsib's side I honestly don't know who is more okay. At the end of the episode I started to think it's actually Nubsib's dad who will accept it first not his mother.

It would be absolutely awesome if Gene's dad manage to communicate at the end when they were in the house :) I understand it's totally unrealistic expectation. He is a man (ther is a certain expectation to not talk about feelings, especially in his generation, he was probably raised like that also), quite closed person and he has his own issues about being bi (probably) and not accepting himself or regretting his choices (or just being sentimental).

To anyone who read until here - thank you and have an awesome day!

You're right. Asking someone out using a grand gesture like that is risky (at best). I also don't like it. When I wrote it's okay I was thinking about grand/"romantic" gestures when people are already going out with each other. And that's not the case here so I agree with you 100%.

To be honest I'm not sure if there'll be more :P I guess when you don't believe in yourself it doesn't disappear that quickly? But I hope they will let go of the insecurities and be together.

Yes, it's kinda strange that he just stands there. I expected questions or dash to the hospital maybe. I thought that if someone told him "Sky had an accident" he would ask "what happened? Is he okay? Where is he now?". Not just stand. But then we wouldn't get a cliffhanger (or we would get a smaller one), so... :)

I agree. For me the drama is missing some events that would make the story (or background) complete. I'm talking about a timeline here. The story is ok, actors are good but now it feels like a bunch of scenes one after another. First couple talk, friends talk, friends talk in class, second couple talk, support talk, talk at home. Maybe if there were some events as the background (except for graduation) like school event, school trip, preparation for something, exams in 2 months... We woud feel the time passing by. It would make more sense to me.

Yeah, I'm also not a fan of Paper's hairstyle.

It depends, some people like it and I guess that's okay. As long as they don't interrupt others lifes when they perform their grand gestures :P And Chris imght like things like that, it's okay. For me the important part is that Jeno doesn't. And as you said, Chris should do it for Jeno. They Chris did it is like giving someone a gift you would like to get. Shouldn't he think about Jeno and how Jeno would like it to go? I also hate public gestures like that. I would appreciate some communication from Jeno's side tough. He only says he doesn't want to do/go/buy/talk etc. Which is ok but maybe he could explain to Chris why or at least tell him what he likes and what is he okay with? Of course if he doesn't like him then no need. Just tell Chris to go away.

Regarding Near and M - I guess being introverts? Both with low self-esteem. With Near we know he is being bullied which explains why he prefers online world. He feels at ease there and has friends that accept him. And M is just shy and doesn't beieve in himself (for now)?

Yes, exactly. For that simple reason everyone who is stressed can relax a bit until next Monday. Maybe he'll be in a coma for some time, maybe he will loose some memories (like confessing part for example :P ). But he will live.

Chris was hilarious in this scene. Tough I would doubt their Thai boxing level at this point if I was Jeno.

I agree, this episode is better than the first one. For me the main couple is least interesting for now. I'm not sure what kind of issue they'll have. Chris said he likes Jeno and they're like "ok, so what will you do?". And they'll have problems with each other? Maybe something like "I don't want to loose a friend". Let's see.

True, in general the story is very generic standard plot. I won't be waiting for next episodes that much.

I agree that Gene overreacted. But I don't think we can say he is inexperienced and not mature. For me throughout the whole series (so far) he was more mature (also older?) than Nubsib. He is the one who tries to be calm, to be collected in public. He is more self reflective, thinks before ho does something. Nubsib just comments Gene's posts because "Gene is cute and it's hard to hold back". With character setup like that I don't get Gene's reaction at all.

I also don't get why Nubsib said he can explain and then tried to touch Gene's face instead of explaining???

The only thing that'll make sense for me is if Gene had some issues in the past which make him not remember people? It's far fetched but Gene needs a good reason to justify a reaction like that. He can be inexperienced in love but with his chcaracter I think he would've listened to what Nubsib has to say.

I agree. I don't really get why Gene is so upset when he discovered who Nubsib is. I thought the main problem/issue in the series will be lead's private life or the lack of it when they're working on the series? Maybe some jealousy or misunderstandings. So it's surprising to see this aspect come up. And I would imagine Gene would be something like "the hell? that's Nubsib!... Nubsib, what's that? Why didn't you tell me? I feel stupid now." And then they would just talk and explain? If there is some kind of an issue for Gene there I would like them to show it in the flashbacks to explain why he is so hurt by the discovery. Maybe Nubsib left early and he was his frst love or something. Anything explaining Gene's rage, lol. Because for now I don't get it.

I don't think so. Nubsib is Gene's childhood friend or something. Seems like they lived close to each other and their families were close?

I agree. In the end he will probably realize he should've approach them and talk to them. Then it would turn out that it's nothing. Maybe they would also clarify that Shi De is not talking enough to Shu Yi and Shu Yi feels neglected. But then we wouldn't have the second season I guess :P

I though the conversation between dad and Shi De was after Shi Yu went to USA? He came back heartbroken. So dad's motives are standard meh motive: "life will be hard for you if you're gay" but he also tried to make sure that Shi De won't suddenly come back and hurt Shu Yi more. So for me he actually cares a lot. But his actions are stupid. He absolutely shouldn't meet in secret and propose such lame deals. It's Shu Yi's life. All dad can do is support and comfort when his son has a hard time. That should be it.

That's also the reason dad told Shi De that it was his fault. In his understanding he proposed this deal to Shi De because Shu Yi came back heartbroken (to protect his son). So Shi De already hurt Shu Yi. And I don't think it's entirely true when you say "none of that would happen". Shi De asked Shu Yi whether he would come back to him if he appeared after a year instead of meeting his dad. And Shu Yi basically said no. Yes, it would probably be less messy but it wouldn't be smooth either.

What I don't get is why Shi De takes Shu Yi for granted but on the other hand doesn't believe Shu Yi will be able to face his dad? Like on one hand Shi De goes to USA, doesn't have time to contact Shu Yi but thinks everything will be okay if he comes back after a year. But on the other hand thinks he need to get his dad's approval alone and makes some stupid deal? Like "yes, I don't have time to talk to you for a year but I'm sure you still love me" and "I need to do everything I can to make it easy for him to love me because otherwise he might stop loving me". Like, I don't know, have time for him? Pay attention? Especially when you're FAR AWAY?

I don't think ZSY hates GSD (even if he says so). Maybe he tried hating him during first 2 episodes. But now for me ZSY seems mostly tired (emotionally). It seems like he gave up hate (or admitted that he can't hate GSD) but he is hurt. It's not something he can solve easily. He is hurt because:
1. GSD didn't contact him when left to USA.
2. When he went to see him he saw him enjoying his free time with some blonde (meaning "you have time to chill on the picnic but can't write me back?") - it hurt him a lot.
3. GSD disappeared for 5 years
4. Now he knows that GSD agreed to some stupid deal with his dad without telling him (and for ZSY it looks like GSD didn't belive in him and his love)
So ZSY feels betrayed in a lot of ways by GSD and can't forgive him. I think he would like to forgive him (he dreams about their happy times) but as he said "some things cannot be undone". GSD hurt him and ZSY needs time to heal, deal with the emotions, accept some stuff and see if he can forgive GSD. Maybe he will start trusting GSD again after some time. But I'm really glad ZSY wasn't like "you made this stupid deal with my dad! ok, so this 5 years wasn't your fault, let's be together!".

But the plot is full of holes. Like I need to made up half of the story in my head so I can explain some character's actions.

I didn't see all from the list above but some. I feel like they were really good but ITSAY is better. At the same time I think that without the previous series ITSAY wouldn't be produced in the shape we see now. All these earlier series that treated BL topic in a serious manner helped in the process. It's natural that series like that will get better and better :)

I won't lie I still need a light BL comedy (where I know everything will go well) from time to time. I just wish there wouldn't be series with leads staying in toxic relationships etc.

I see. Now I understand better what you were talking about. You're right that Aew never said "I love you" but for me he declared his feelings on the beach at the resort when he said he like someone else not Bass (and they talked about Aew liking Teh).
You're totally right, Teh was chasing after Aew in his own way for quite some time (I didn't see it that much at the begninning). But he also chose to not try to clarify things between them or between him and Tarn (I'm not sure if that's the name of Teh's girlfriend). I'm not saying he should talk with them about everything but he just chose to let things happen instead of trying to minimalize the damage. In my opinion Tarn deserved at least some kind of explanation before everything blew up for her :) It's tough, maybe the only issue here is that their perception of the situation is not aligned. I feel like they both need to do something for things to end well. Teh needs to make a decision and Aew needs to get himself together and act on it.

I don't think Teh will leave but he also didn't leave in the first episode. They just kind of drifted apart after none of them texted the other. But I think it won't happen now since they'll see each other at the admission exam. So it'll be resolved in one way or another.

I feel like I'll have to rewatch it after final episode anyway.

But what do you think Aew should do now to 'fight for what he wants'? He wants Teh to admit he loves him. And he can't do anything to get it. He also can't really go back to be friends (at least that's how it looks like at the end of an episode) because he would just be hurting all the time. If he is not able to be friends then there is nothing for him to do. That's just how I see it of course.

So it would help me if you can give some example as what can Aew do now? From my perspective Aew did all he could to get what he wants (and that's Teh's love) - he said he loves him, he didn't push for the answer, he allowed Teh to be vague for some time and avoid the topic. He was letf hanging (emotionally) multiple times. And when he finally asked Teh about their relationship Teh denied it and asked to be friends. Being friends is not what Aew wants.

I agree with you all almost 100%. Teh did give a lot to Ah-Aew and maybe Oh-Aew doesn't realize it. But it was good that Oh-Aew didn't allow Teh to think it's okay to stay 'friends' after what he has done. If he agreed he would put himself in a position when he agrees to get hurt constantly. And it's not healthy for anyone. And I don't think Teh would simple stay friends. He would still lead Oh-Aew on. Maybe kiss him from time to time. It would be a bad situation for both of them. Oh-Aew wouldn't be able to truly be with the one he loves but also can't move on. Teh okay in a first glance because he gets what he wants (Oh-Aew close and his) but unhappy in general because he would still feel like he disappoinnted his family and he doesn't even have what he really needs. I'm glad Oh-Aew is true to himself and understands that he needs to 'respect himself'. The thing is Aew doesn't want Teh to give up this spot. It's not that he is ungrateful, he just doesn't need it from Teh (and he didn't ask Teh to do it). From Oh-Aew's perspective Teh is doing everything except what Oh-Aew wants/needs from him. And that's admitting he loves him. So Teh is doing whatever he can to get close to Oh-Aew except the one thing that will get him close. Unfortunately it may be too late for Oh-Aew to get back to being friends. It just may not be possible for him to be okay with being just friends (with a prerpsective that Teh will kiss him form time to time and then maybe have sex in the future). And it's not like he did it himself because Teh was showing signs of falling in love. I would say Oh-Aew wasn't wrong in thinking they're starting a relationship.

What's most painful for me is that neither is wrong. They're both right in what they're doing. Teh is 100% allowed to have doubts, need more time to solve his feelings etc. Anyone is - if you're not ready for the relationship don't do it and hope 'it'll be okay'. But talk about it with the other person! (Teh, if only you would talk about what's stopping you withhim. Oh-Aew would understand or help you!). And Oh-Aew is right to expect that when someone loves him he will say it straightforwardly and be with him. It's just that they're in different places/stages of the process. And that may be the reason for them to loose contact again.

Extremely sorry for the long post but I just registered. And it's only to comment on this drama and reply to your comment :P (as my nick states).

I agree with you totally. Expecially with the part that when he opens the book he realizes he can't escape anymore. He did everything to be close to Aew and it didn't work. The only thing left for him is to admit he loves him. But will it happen? I honestly don't know. If it was a standard Thai drama I would say 'of course, grand finale, kiss and make up'. But here I can't say...

I started to think that Aew would be able to get over his dream (if he wouldn't get in by admission exam) if he had Teh as a boyfriend by his side. I don't feel like getting into Communication Arts is really "matter of life and death" for him. But maybe I'm assuming to much. I remember what Bass said to Aew in the resort about it being his dream.

What I respect about Aew is that he didn't agree to be friends after Teh avoided any declarations after the kiss. He respects his feelings and want them to be acnowledged. He believes that he is worthy of Teh's love (not like in some other dramas "you should be with a girl not me" - which is also an issue someone can struggle with but I'm glad Aew is demostrating a healthy approach to himself). I understand how Teh is confused and I don't think he is guilty in any way. It's his right to be confused at this age. But I'm glad that Aew didn't spoil him by agreeing to stay 'friends'. This way Teh knows he can't just brush off Aew's feelings and pretend they're friends and continue to hurt him. I'm glad Aew's showing him it's not okay. You can't do that to people, Teh!

The only thing about Teh that bothers me a little is how clumsy he is in solving his issues. He is hurting a lot of people in the process and doesn't pay that much attention to it (mostly Tarn and Aew). I know he is doing his best and it's extremely hard and complicated for him. But it just wasn't fair when he went to Tarn and asked her to say 'I love you'. If Aew allowed it Teh would also continue to have this vague relationship with him. And he would deny it if he felt like it. On the other hand Tarn is really great in her role. She understands a lot but she isn't all 'oh, okay, if you love him, I support'. She is hurt and that's obvious but she also owns it. She is very powerful.

I also feel like there is a balance between Teh and Aew characters. Teh is quite strong whe it comes to studying, working hard towards his goal. He is disciplined and focused. He will definetly achieve his dream (if he doesn't change his mind). Aew on the other hand doesn't give off this vibe. We watch him during the time he should be studying the hardest (imagine this short scene in anime when character is so motivated he doesn't think of anything else) but he isn't. He is not as disciplined or focused as Teh (in some scenes I can see that Teh doesn't understand it - for him it's so obvious to focus completely on the goal ahead of him). He may not achieve his dream. But Aew strength is that he is true to himself. He doesn't deny his desires and he puts himself 'out there'. He is the one who admits his feelings towards Teh straightforwardly. He lays it all there and gives control to Teh - and that's extremely scary for most people. Because it leaves you vulnerable. You put yourself out there and whether you get hurt or not is not up to you anymore. But even when he gets hurt he doesn't shut himself in (at the beginning). He is extremely emotional (not hysterical) and that can be both his strength and weakness because we can see how much Teh's actions affect him. I'm hopefull and concerned for him at the same time. I hope whatever happens he will get through it and that's what I want to believe. But I can see how it could end if he didn't have support from his friends and parents and if he hasn't accepted himself beforehand.