Also, which scene did Xiang Liu start to have feelings for her?
I agree, I also think it’s a gradual thing where he falls for her more and more over time rather than falling for her mostly all at once.
I even think the first seeds of feelings are planted with the words that XY says to him in his military tent during their first meeting about being a discarded person with no means of protecting herself, no one to rely on, and nowhere to go. Although XL remains suspicious of her and still has his men whip her when she tests him, he spares her life (even though he knows his enemies have sent spies into his camp and she still refuses to reveal her true identity) and has her "work" for him. And he remembers her exact words over one hundred years later.
Not only does he remember them, he spends a good portion of the next 100+ years (not to mention several lives) making sure that she will have the things that she said she lacked.
Also, which scene did Xiang Liu start to have feelings for her?
There is no single scene that we can point to as the one where he definitely started to have feelings for her. All we know for sure is that he knew XY's bug could not be transferred from CX to just anyone. It had to be transferred to someone who had love for XY in their heart, and he considered himself to be someone who fulfilled that requirement by the time he suggested that she transfer the bug to him.
One reason it's not easy to pinpoint when XL falls for her is that he doesn't immediately start treating her softly after falling for her. He still has moments where he treats her harshly even after we know he's aware of his own feelings for her.
For example, the first time XL suggests transferring the bug to him (from CX) is right after he uses falling into the water to stun XY (and thereby stun CX so that FFYY could attempt to assassinate him).
It's maybe also worth noting that XY and XL knew each other for two years by this point.
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Chapter 7:
The white condor flew to the same lake they once came to. Before the condor could descend, Xiang Liu suddenly grabbed Xiao Liu and vaulted off.
Xiao Liu was stunned and could only grab onto Xiang Liu with a tentacled creature grasp. The wind whistled past and Xiang Liu stared coldly “Shall I use you as a cushion?” Xiao Liu violently shook his head with his eyes full of pleading but Xiang Liu didn’t appear moved. They were descending so fast as if they were going to be smashed to smithereens. Right at the moment before impacting the water, Xiang Liu suddenly turned and flipped Xiao Liu on top.
With a giant plop, the two of them entered the water and a giant wave rose up. Even though Xiang Liu absorbed the brunt of the impact, Xiao Liu was still rocked by the waves and his head was spinning and his entire body ached. Because his limbs were in such pain, he couldn’t grab onto Xiang Liu and his body sank into the depths.
Xiang Liu floated in the water staring as Xiao Liu sank towards the bottom of the lake. Xiao Liu tried to reach out but could grab nothing and his eyes were gradually seeing black. Just as he was about to take his last breath, he felt Xiang Liu embrace him and a pair of cold lips pressed to his and passed air to him.
Xiang Liu held him and they rocketed towards the surface like an arrow. Sprawled on Xiang Liu's shoulder, Xiao Liu coughed violently, gasping for air, his nose and eyes filled with water.
After some time, Xiao Liu panted out in a hoarse voice, "If you want to kill me, just do it quickly."
"You only have one head. You can only die once. Dying just once is too easy for you."
Xiang Liu fell backwards and laid on the surface of the water. Xiao Liu's whole body was still aching so he couldn’t move and could only lie on top of Xiang Liu.
Xiang Liu pulled Xiao Liu's arm. "Does it hurt?"
"He will be in great pain."
Xiang Liu laughed. “This voodoo bug is decent but not good enough.”
“If it was a life-linked voodoo bug, you wouldn’t even hesitate and would kill me, right?”
“Yup, too bad it just shares pain.” Xiang Liu’s voice shared his regret.
Xiao Liu closed his eyes and felt them rocking on the waves. The water supported everything so there was no need to use any strength and it was quite relaxing.
Xiang Liu asked, “Since he’s so precious to you, why not remove the bug?”
Xiao Liu didn’t answer and thought for a long time. Since he was a demon, and demons and creatures and monsters were all in the same world, perhaps he might know something. “It’s not that I don’t want to remove the bug, it’s that I can’t. Last time I was injured, you used all sorts of weird medicines on me. The bug had some type of transformation. He asked me to remove the bug and I lied that I’ll do it when he leaves. Recently I’ve been trying all sorts of ways to coax the bug out of him but nothing works.”
Xiang Liu thought about it “If you don’t want to die, then don’t try calling it back. The only solution is to find a way to transfer the bug to another person.”
Xiao Liu sincerely said “The only person I want to make miserable is you.”
Xiang Liu softly laughed. “Then put the bug inside me.” Xiao Liu scoffed, “Like you would be so nice.”
For those who have read the novel, or just have better insight: how did Xiang Liu figure out that Xiaoyao is a…
XL knew that XY was a woman from the moment he first met her, because she was able to lure the Fei Fei out with her song.
In the novel, Fei Feis are called Jiu Jius. I'll post some excerpts from the novel below.
XL knowing that XY was a woman from the beginning was one of the reasons XL did not trust her when he questioned her at the military camp. He knows that she is using a false form and identity (at a time when he knows that spies have infiltrated his military camp), and she won't reveal her true form and true identity to him. She only admits that she is not *only* WXL. She tells him why she chose to be WXL and says that she wants to be WXL for the rest of her life.
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Chapter 2:
Xiao Liu wanted to catch a Jiu Jiu - a small animal resembling a civet cat. It had a long white tail and could take away a person’s sorrow. It was popular with the nobles and could be sold for a pretty penny. It didn’t have any attack power, but it was very, very clever. It was easy to frighten and quick to run away. So it was very hard to catch. But Xiao Liu had a way of dealing with it. Jiu Jius loved listening to a young woman sing. A Jiu Jiu would be attracted to the young woman’s sorrowful song and its body would inch closer to help the girl forget her sorrows. Xiao Liu found a suitable spot to set the trap.
He jumped into the water to wash off the poop first, then crawled on a rock and sat down. The rock was warmed by the sun and Xiao Liu sat there fixing his hair and singing. The song was carried by the wind. Xiao Liu sang a song about missing someone forever and never being able to forget.
Xiao Liu’s voice was melodic and the song was sorrowful. So the Jiu Jiu was lured out. Initially it was scared, so it hid in the dark. When it sensed no danger, it could not overcome its natural instinct to help people forget sorrow, so it stepped out and started chirping.
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Chapter 6:
Xiang Liu raised his head and stared at Xiao Liu, blood staining his lips, his eyes darkened, his breath slightly labored. Xiao Liu was initially sitting sprawled like a man but suddenly he slid down and unconsciously wanted to cover his chest, but he immediately stopped himself and continued to sit sprawled open.
Xiang Liu’s hand moved down from his neck, tracing his jawline, down his clavicle. Xiao Liu grabbed his hand and smiled. “I’m a man. Even if you like men, you should find someone better looking.”
“You’re a man?” Xiang Liu’s slightly blood stained lips curved upward. “If you’re a man, how did you lure the Jiu Jiu out?”
Xiao Liu blinked quizzically, “I don’t believe you can’t change your shape as well as your voice.”
“I trust a beast’s natural instinct.”
“If a beast’s natural instinct was so accurate, your Furball wouldn’t have been poisoned by me. There would be no such thing as traps, and hunters wouldn’t need to hunt.”
“What kind of transformation spell are you using? You have very weak powers but it’s completely seamless just like it’s your true form.”
Xiao Liu angrily said, “This is my true form!”
Xiang Liu stared at him, his eyes as dark as ink, and Xiao Liu’s heart started racing. He violently shook off Xiang Liu’s hand and then spread himself open like a dead pig headed to boiling water. “Touch me then, touch me. After you’re done then stop accusing me of being a woman!”
Xiang Liu glared at him. “I’m not interested in your false form.” He released Xiao Liu, turned and walked out of the pool to go lay on the pallet and continued healing himself.
No seriously. He is captain of destroying his own ship which is the first time I've seen this 😂🤣
Kokuto I'm stumbling upon this little exchange right after seeing nathsketch's post about White Flag and finding it quite funny that the descriptions and emotions today are pretty much exactly the same as the descriptions and emotions a month ago ^^
It’s a reverse harem drama. All four of the main male characters are her love interests, in different ways.
We are not that different in our interpretations of their roles. But a love interest can be a potential romantic partner of a character. Not just the character (or characters) they actually have a romantic relationship with or the person they end up with in the end. In this case, each "suitor" is one, to a degree. 😉
It’s a reverse harem drama. All four of the main male characters are her love interests, in different ways.
She promises to marry three of them. She gets engaged to two of them. In both cases one or two of the others interferes to prevent the wedding from being completed. One whose heart and life is connected to hers ultimately helps her marry one of the others… But saying that seemed too complicated and spoilery.
Has that one actually been deleted? I mean, there's still fanart in the photogallery.I was actually going to do…
"So they actually keep a separate image in the discussion thread"
Yes, exactly. So we could have a sort of shadow version of the photo gallery in a discussion thread if we wanted, and it wouldn't be affected even if the admins purged the photo gallery again.
As a safety measure against losing images because of the admins purging images from the photo section, we could create a new discussion thread just for images if people were up for it.
I shared an image (YaoJing fanart) in the YaoJing discussion thread that was linked back to the version of that image that was uploaded in the photos section by another user. The origianl image added to the photo section seems to have been a victim of the purge, but the linked version I posted in the YaoJing discussion thread wasn't affected.
The King of Haoling (aka the Emperor of Gao Xing / the Grand Emperor / the White Emperor) suspected that the person…
In the novel we don't see CX's conversation with the Grand Emperor (the one that makes him suspect that WXL might be XY) at all. CX just shows up at the clinic and tells XY that his master wants to meet her.
In episode 14, we see that CX tells the King of Haoling about the medical treatment that XY suggested for his arrow wound, her talent with poisons, and the fact that she planted a poisonous bug in him. Of course the King doesn't mention the manuals at that point - the very little he does say to CX is extremely vague and makes CX mistakenly think that WXL is the son of one of the princes who rebelled against the King of Haoling.
The part where the drama doesn't give us the necessary details is when it doesn't include XY and CX's conversation from chapter 22 (which occurs after she returns from her 37 years in the clam shell).
On the other hand, the novel also doesn't start by showing us CX and XY's childhood. As readers, we don't see Ah Heng giving the manuals to XY the way we do in the drama. The details of XY's childhood are scattered across conversations and flashbacks throughout the novel and we (the readers) have to piece them together. XY's conversation with CX is just one example. So in some ways the drama gives viewers more information than the novel, at least up front.
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I even think the first seeds of feelings are planted with the words that XY says to him in his military tent during their first meeting about being a discarded person with no means of protecting herself, no one to rely on, and nowhere to go. Although XL remains suspicious of her and still has his men whip her when she tests him, he spares her life (even though he knows his enemies have sent spies into his camp and she still refuses to reveal her true identity) and has her "work" for him. And he remembers her exact words over one hundred years later.
Not only does he remember them, he spends a good portion of the next 100+ years (not to mention several lives) making sure that she will have the things that she said she lacked.
One reason it's not easy to pinpoint when XL falls for her is that he doesn't immediately start treating her softly after falling for her. He still has moments where he treats her harshly even after we know he's aware of his own feelings for her.
For example, the first time XL suggests transferring the bug to him (from CX) is right after he uses falling into the water to stun XY (and thereby stun CX so that FFYY could attempt to assassinate him).
It's maybe also worth noting that XY and XL knew each other for two years by this point.
-----
Chapter 7:
The white condor flew to the same lake they once came to. Before the condor could descend, Xiang Liu suddenly grabbed Xiao Liu and vaulted off.
Xiao Liu was stunned and could only grab onto Xiang Liu with a tentacled creature grasp. The wind whistled past and Xiang Liu stared coldly “Shall I use you as a cushion?” Xiao Liu violently shook his head with his eyes full of pleading but Xiang Liu didn’t appear moved. They were descending so fast as if they were going to be smashed to smithereens. Right at the moment before impacting the water, Xiang Liu suddenly turned and flipped Xiao Liu on top.
With a giant plop, the two of them entered the water and a giant wave rose up. Even though Xiang Liu absorbed the brunt of the impact, Xiao Liu was still rocked by the waves and his head was spinning and his entire body ached. Because his limbs were in such pain, he couldn’t grab onto Xiang Liu and his body sank into the depths.
Xiang Liu floated in the water staring as Xiao Liu sank towards the bottom of the lake. Xiao Liu tried to reach out but could grab nothing and his eyes were gradually seeing black. Just as he was about to take his last breath, he felt Xiang Liu embrace him and a pair of cold lips pressed to his and passed air to him.
Xiang Liu held him and they rocketed towards the surface like an arrow. Sprawled on Xiang Liu's shoulder, Xiao Liu coughed violently, gasping for air, his nose and eyes filled with water.
After some time, Xiao Liu panted out in a hoarse voice, "If you want to kill me, just do it quickly."
"You only have one head. You can only die once. Dying just once is too easy for you."
Xiang Liu fell backwards and laid on the surface of the water. Xiao Liu's whole body was still aching so he couldn’t move and could only lie on top of Xiang Liu.
Xiang Liu pulled Xiao Liu's arm. "Does it hurt?"
"He will be in great pain."
Xiang Liu laughed. “This voodoo bug is decent but not good enough.”
“If it was a life-linked voodoo bug, you wouldn’t even hesitate and would kill me, right?”
“Yup, too bad it just shares pain.” Xiang Liu’s voice shared his regret.
Xiao Liu closed his eyes and felt them rocking on the waves. The water supported everything so there was no need to use any strength and it was quite relaxing.
Xiang Liu asked, “Since he’s so precious to you, why not remove the bug?”
Xiao Liu didn’t answer and thought for a long time. Since he was a demon, and demons and creatures and monsters were all in the same world, perhaps he might know something. “It’s not that I don’t want to remove the bug, it’s that I can’t. Last time I was injured, you used all sorts of weird medicines on me. The bug had some type of transformation. He asked me to remove the bug and I lied that I’ll do it when he leaves. Recently I’ve been trying all sorts of ways to coax the bug out of him but nothing works.”
Xiang Liu thought about it “If you don’t want to die, then don’t try calling it back. The only solution is to find a way to transfer the bug to another person.”
Xiao Liu sincerely said “The only person I want to make miserable is you.”
Xiang Liu softly laughed. “Then put the bug inside me.” Xiao Liu scoffed, “Like you would be so nice.”
In the novel, Fei Feis are called Jiu Jius. I'll post some excerpts from the novel below.
XL knowing that XY was a woman from the beginning was one of the reasons XL did not trust her when he questioned her at the military camp. He knows that she is using a false form and identity (at a time when he knows that spies have infiltrated his military camp), and she won't reveal her true form and true identity to him. She only admits that she is not *only* WXL. She tells him why she chose to be WXL and says that she wants to be WXL for the rest of her life.
---
Chapter 2:
Xiao Liu wanted to catch a Jiu Jiu - a small animal resembling a civet cat. It had a long white tail and could take away a person’s sorrow. It was popular with the nobles and could be sold for a pretty penny. It didn’t have any attack power, but it was very, very clever. It was easy to frighten and quick to run away. So it was very hard to catch. But Xiao Liu had a way of dealing with it. Jiu Jius loved listening to a young woman sing. A Jiu Jiu would be attracted to the young woman’s sorrowful song and its body would inch closer to help the girl forget her sorrows. Xiao Liu found a suitable spot to set the trap.
He jumped into the water to wash off the poop first, then crawled on a rock and sat down. The rock was warmed by the sun and Xiao Liu sat there fixing his hair and singing. The song was carried by the wind. Xiao Liu sang a song about missing someone forever and never being able to forget.
Xiao Liu’s voice was melodic and the song was sorrowful. So the Jiu Jiu was lured out. Initially it was scared, so it hid in the dark. When it sensed no danger, it could not overcome its natural instinct to help people forget sorrow, so it stepped out and started chirping.
-----
Chapter 6:
Xiang Liu raised his head and stared at Xiao Liu, blood staining his lips, his eyes darkened, his breath slightly labored. Xiao Liu was initially sitting sprawled like a man but suddenly he slid down and unconsciously wanted to cover his chest, but he immediately stopped himself and continued to sit sprawled open.
Xiang Liu’s hand moved down from his neck, tracing his jawline, down his clavicle. Xiao Liu grabbed his hand and smiled. “I’m a man. Even if you like men, you should find someone better looking.”
“You’re a man?” Xiang Liu’s slightly blood stained lips curved upward. “If you’re a man, how did you lure the Jiu Jiu out?”
Xiao Liu blinked quizzically, “I don’t believe you can’t change your shape as well as your voice.”
“I trust a beast’s natural instinct.”
“If a beast’s natural instinct was so accurate, your Furball wouldn’t have been poisoned by me. There would be no such thing as traps, and hunters wouldn’t need to hunt.”
“What kind of transformation spell are you using? You have very weak powers but it’s completely seamless just like it’s your true form.”
Xiao Liu angrily said, “This is my true form!”
Xiang Liu stared at him, his eyes as dark as ink, and Xiao Liu’s heart started racing. He violently shook off Xiang Liu’s hand and then spread himself open like a dead pig headed to boiling water. “Touch me then, touch me. After you’re done then stop accusing me of being a woman!”
Xiang Liu glared at him. “I’m not interested in your false form.” He released Xiao Liu, turned and walked out of the pool to go lay on the pallet and continued healing himself.
Xiao Liu’s wildly nervous heart finally relaxed.
We've been talking about the script in some of the threads if you'd care to join us ^^
https://kisskh.at/discussions/lost-you-forever/110123-xl-and-xy-story-and-romance-warning-spoilers?pid=2749613&page=82#p2749613
https://kisskh.at/discussions/lost-you-forever/110123-xl-and-xy-story-and-romance-warning-spoilers?pid=2769519&page=118#p2769519
“All of them in different ways” is simpler ^^
Yes, exactly. So we could have a sort of shadow version of the photo gallery in a discussion thread if we wanted, and it wouldn't be affected even if the admins purged the photo gallery again.
I shared an image (YaoJing fanart) in the YaoJing discussion thread that was linked back to the version of that image that was uploaded in the photos section by another user. The origianl image added to the photo section seems to have been a victim of the purge, but the linked version I posted in the YaoJing discussion thread wasn't affected.
https://kisskh.at/discussions/lost-you-forever/109849-tushan-jing-and-xiao-yao-s-romance?pid=2763111&page=231#p2763111
In episode 14, we see that CX tells the King of Haoling about the medical treatment that XY suggested for his arrow wound, her talent with poisons, and the fact that she planted a poisonous bug in him. Of course the King doesn't mention the manuals at that point - the very little he does say to CX is extremely vague and makes CX mistakenly think that WXL is the son of one of the princes who rebelled against the King of Haoling.
The part where the drama doesn't give us the necessary details is when it doesn't include XY and CX's conversation from chapter 22 (which occurs after she returns from her 37 years in the clam shell).
On the other hand, the novel also doesn't start by showing us CX and XY's childhood. As readers, we don't see Ah Heng giving the manuals to XY the way we do in the drama. The details of XY's childhood are scattered across conversations and flashbacks throughout the novel and we (the readers) have to piece them together. XY's conversation with CX is just one example. So in some ways the drama gives viewers more information than the novel, at least up front.