Watched till ep 21Can someone tell me the reason why dan'er doesn't tell wanyin that he transmigrated 15 years…
We saw his thoughts on why he didn't tell her the truth at the beginning of episode 10.
First, he worried that telling her the truth would shatter the closeness and trust that had been built between them.
And second, although he didn't want to shatter that closeness and trust, he would rather have her doubt him than break her heart. And it seems that he assumes that revealing the truth and the depth of his suffering and everything he did in those 15 years after he transmigrated would break her heart, which seems like a fair assumption tbh.
It felt like either she figured out that although they are all transmigrators, she is not the same as Xiahou Dan and Yu Wan Yin and that she is a fictional character from a fictional "real world" while they are people from the *actual* real world (maybe she overheard them speaking about it?) OR she is going to die in the imminent chaos and it's going to be heartbreaking.
No; he was tortured by the empress dowager and that a-hole second prince.
Yes, everything you just said is correct.
But Cherrymotion only asked, "Could it be that prince duan had been suspecting that the emperor was different since they were younger?" She didn't ask if Prince Duan knew that Xiahou Dan was a transmigrator.
So the answer to the question that she asked was "Yes" (not "No"), and then a further explanation could be given.
No; he was tortured by the empress dowager and that a-hole second prince.
We found out in episode 24 that Xiahou Bo / Prince Duan *did* have a clue that Xiahou Dan was different since they were young.
When he and Zhang San / Xiahou Dan were both still young, he found out that Zhang San / Xiahou Dan was looking for someone else who was "the same kind".
Many years later he found out that Xiahou Dan, Yu Wan Yin, and Xie Yong Er were "the same kind" and he was tricked into believing that they each had the gift of foresight through their dreams. So he didn't find out that they were actually transmigrators from another world who had taken over characters within a historical novel.
Although he never found out that Xiahou Dan was a transmigrator from another world, he did have some idea that Xiahou Dan was different for a long, long time.
No; he was tortured by the empress dowager and that a-hole second prince.
Before I started watching I was spoiled about the fact that the ML lied to the FL about just transmigrating and that he had actually transmigrated much earlier, and I'm kind of glad because it made it easier to follow the plot from the beginning. So I get what you mean. ^^
No; he was tortured by the empress dowager and that a-hole second prince.
This has been answered in the drama. If you aren't caught up yet, it's a bit dangerous to ask questions in the comment section. If you don't want to be spoiled, it might be better to catch up first and then come back to the comment section.
So Zhang San is also a transmigrator, now I get it but seeing who they rarely interact and see each other I don't…
We have known that Zhang San is a transmigrator since the first episode.
Zhang San is the real name of the ML. That was his name in the real world before he transmigrated into the story and took over the role of Xiahou Dan, just like the FL’s name in the real world was Wang Cui Hua before she transmigrated into the story and took over the role of Yu Wan Yin.
Before he transmigrated into the story, he was just a middle school kid in the real world. When he transmigrated into the story, he took over the character that was just a prince at that time. He kept the prince title for years and he grew up trapped inside the story before later becoming the Emperor and eventually meeting the FL when she transmigrated into the story 15+ years after he transmigrated into it. He lied when he told the FL that he had only transmigrated into the story a few hours before they met. He was not a CEO nor an actor before he transmigrated into the story. He was only a middle school student. And then he grew up inside the story, constantly searching (in vain, until he met the FL) for another transmigrator like himself.
The actor who plays young Zhang San / Xiahou Dan in those Zhang San Diary flashback scenes is the same actor that plays Xiahou Dan’s biological son (Xiahou Po) in the present story, where he is the current crown prince. The current crown prince (Xiahou Po) is not a transmigrator.
Normally I don't care about second couples at all. So I'm surprised by how much I like Xie Yong Er and Physician Xiao together now (end of episode 22), especially since they're fictional characters from the novel that may have limited freedom to stray from the role that their characters were meant to play in the story. I hope they can have a happy ending!
please give me a spoiler. I have the same question as the ML, do xie yong er and prince duan also transmigrators?
Xie Yong Er and Xiahua Bo (Prince Duan) are both fictional characters.
Xie Yong Er is a transmigrator, but she transmigrated from one fictional world (one that is based on our modern world) into another fictional world (the world of a historical novel). This transmigrator is the fictional protagonist of the novel that the FL of How Dare You skimmed and was supposed to edit (a transmigration novel titled "The Devil's Beloved Consort").
Xiahua Bo is not a transmigrator. He's just a cunning and observant character.
So far, the leads (transmigrators who took over the characters of Yu Wan Yin and Xiahua Dan) are the only characters who are confirmed to be non-fictional people who transmigrated into the historical story from the real world.
i’m on ep 6 now, kind of confused about xie yong er’s character. so in the novel, her character setting is…
Yes. Her "real world" is different from the "real world" that the leads transmigrated from.
She is a fictional character who transmigrated from her own fictional version of our modern world (a fictional world that only exists in the transmigration book that the FL of How Dare You is asked to edit - The Devil's Beloved Consort) into a historical novel (a historical novel that only exists within / for the purposes of the plot of the transmigration novel - The Devil's Beloved Consort). She had read the historical novel to its end before she transmigrated into it, so she knew how the story went and could take action based on her knowledge of other characters' plans and future events. In the original version of the historical novel, Xie Yong Er was only a cannon fodder character. When the modern-day protagonist of The Devil's Beloved Consort transmigrated into the historical story and took over the character of Xie Yong Er, she changed its events and Xie Yong Er became the main character.
Whereas the leads of How Dare You transmigrated from the real world into the transmigration novel that the FL was asked to edit (The Devil's Beloved Consort). The FL skimmed the transmigration novel to its end before transmigrating into it, so she knows the main plot points of that novel and how the protagonist changed the outcome of the historical novel. But after transmigrating into the story and taking over the roles of Yu Wan Yin and Xiahua Dan, the leads change events so that they no longer follow the events of the original historical novel and also no longer follow the events of the transmigration novel (The Devil's Beloved Consort). In the new version of the historical story (the "How Dare You" version), it seems like the transmigrators from the real world will be the main characters and the transmigrator who was the protagonist of The Devil's Beloved Consort (who transmigrated from a fictional "real world" into the historical novel and took over Xie Yong Er's character) will be relegated to a secondary character role this time.
I console myself with the thought that they were the love story, but one that was star crossed. :(
Romeo and Juliet both died tragically young. I like to think of XL and XY more like Jack and Rose from Titanic if that helps.
Rose said that Jack saved her in every way a person could be saved before he died according to his principles long before the natural end of his life. In the end, Rose not only survived, but successfully escaped her previous life, family and identity.
She lived a long, full life with her new identity on her own terms, willingly married another man (not one that was forced upon her by her family / social position), and had children and grandchildren, just as Jack wished for her. And although she did all of that, she never, ever forgot Jack. Her very last act, at 100 years old, was to return the Heart of the Ocean to the place where he died. And then she died, and her soul reunited with Jack in their own version of heaven.
Still tragic, but a bit more on the bittersweet side compared to Romeo and Juliet.
THIS IS SO GOOODDD. I'mon ep. 12 nowp.s. I hate Duan Wang and Taeho even morealso, why Xiaomei do "that"…
If she really was trying to "help" the FL, then... based on things she said earlier in the episode, she probably did that to separate the FL from "the tyrant"?
We saw the consequences of her actions. The Dowager Empress demoted the FL from Consort to Concubine and ordered her guards to send the FL to the Cold Palace... which is away from "the tyrant" but not exactly a nice outcome for the FL.
But it's also possible that she wasn't trying to help the FL and instead was acting on behalf of someone else... like Xiahou Bo / Prince Dan, perhaps?
EP.1 around 37:40, I watched a few times but still didn't understand. Why did he say if Duan wasn't transmigrated,…
Xiahou Dan (the ML) wasn't saying that only one of him and Yu Wan Yin (the FL) could survive in that case. He was saying that only one of him (the ML) and Xiahou Bo (Prince Duan / the SML) could survive.
The FL explained to the transmigrator who took over Xiahou Dan that the real Xiahou Bo character from the original story has a deep grudge against Xiahou Dan. Xiahou Bo will not rest until that grudge is satisfied by Xiahou Dan's death - not even handing over the throne would stop him. The only way to stop him from orchestrating Xiahou Dan's death would be for Xiahou Bo to die first.
But if the real Xiahou Bo has been taken over by a transmigrator, the transmigrator might not care so much about the real Xiahou Bo's grudge. So it might be possible to reach a different outcome (everybody lives!) if Xiahou Bo has been taken over by a transmigrator.
Therefore, Xiahou Dan concludes that the FL is saying that, "If he's a transmigrator, then we might have a chance to reconcile. But if he's not, then only one of us will get to live."
Can someone spoil me pleaseeee!! Who is 2ML and why is he “on higher ground”? What does that mean
TL;DR - The FL skimmed a transmigration novel about a fictional girl who transmigrated into a historical novel (a novel-within-a-novel). Then the FL transmigrated into the transmigration novel she skimmed. The FL thought her own story might also be a transmigration novel and that the SML might be from the real world and might've read her novel (a novel-within-a-novel-within-a-novel) before transmigrating into it, which would give him a big information advantage and put him on a higher level than her.
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Do you remember the synopsis for The Devil's Beloved Consort at the very beginning of the drama? It said that it was a transmigration novel (Transmigration Novel B) about a girl who read a historical novel (Historical Novel A) and then transmigrated into that novel. Then the FL is asked to edit that novel (Transmigration Novel B).
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Historical Novel A (A Thousand Trees Blossoming at Night in the East) - A historical novel. In the original version of this historical novel, Xie Yong Er is only a cannon-fodder character.
Transmigration Novel B (The Devil's Beloved Consort) - A transmigration novel that tells the story of a girl from a fictional version of the real world who reads Novel A. After reading Historical Novel A, this girl is transmigrated into Historical Novel A, takes over the character Xie Yong Er, and changes the events of the historical novel so that Xie Yong Er becomes the main character.
Story C (How Dare You) - In the TRUE “real world”, the FL is tasked with editing Transmigration Novel B. She skims Transmigration Novel B (which covers the events of Historical Novel A and how the transmigrator female protagonist changed them), is transmigrated into Transmigration Novel B, takes over the character Yu Wan Yin, meets two other transmigrators, and changes the events of the historical novel so that Yu Wan Yin becomes the main character and Xie Yong Er is sidelined into being a secondary female character.
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So there are at least two “real worlds”. There is the seemingly TRUE “real world” of Story C that the FL is from before she transmigrates, and there is the definitely-fictional “real world” of Transmigration Novel B, which is the fictional “real world” that the transmigrator from Transmigration Novel B is originally from before she transmigrates.
And there are three versions of the same historical novel world events. --The original version of these events is told in Historical Novel A. --A modified version (influenced by one transmigrator) is told in Transmigration Novel B. --A different modified version (influenced by at least three transmigrators) is unfolding in Story C.
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The FL has skimmed Transmigration Novel B, so she knows that the transmigrator who took over Xie Yong Er came from a fictional “real world”, which is described in that novel. The FL assumes that the “real world” that she (the FL) came from is actually real, but she acknowledges that it is possible that her “real world” might *also* be fictional. There could be a novel-within-a-novel-within-a-novel setup so that Historical Novel A exists in Transmigration Novel B which exists in a separate novel that tells Story C (so… Hypothetical Novel C) and that Hypothetical Novel C could exist in a world that was actually real. In that scenario, the “lowest” or “least real” world would be the “real world” in Transmigration Novel B, above that would be the “real world” that the FL came from in Hypothetical Novel C, and then there would be a separate “higher” or “more real” world where Hypothetical Novel C existed and could be read by a “real” person.
At one point, the leads wonder if Xiahou Bo (Prince Duan / the SML / antagonist) might be a transmigrator. If he was a transmigrator, the FL knows he didn’t come from the same world that the transmigrator who took over Xie Yong Er came from (the fictional “real world” in Transmigration Novel B), because the FL skimmed Transmigration Novel B. So that would leave two possibilities. Either he came from the same world that the FL came from (in which case he might’ve read Transmigration Novel B, just skimmed it like the FL, or just read the synopsis like the ML who transmigrated and took over Xiahou Dan) OR the world that the FL came from is actually fictional (she is just a character in Hypothetical Novel C) and Xiahou Bo came from the TRUE “real world” which is “higher” or “more real” than the FL’s world. If that second option was true, it would potentially be a big problem because it would mean that Xiahou Bo could’ve read Hypothetical Novel C in the TRUE real world before he transmigrated into the historical novel world, which would mean he would have a lot of information about the FL and about how events could play out in the same way that the FL has a lot of information about Xie Yong Er and how events might play out because she read Transmigration Novel B.
Hypothetical Novel C would have the most information (it would cover all versions of the historical timeline and two fictional "real worlds" of other transmigrators - so Xiahou Bo would be on the highest level of knowledge / insight), Transmigration Novel B would have the second most information (it covers two versions of the historical timeline and one fictional "real world" of another transmigrator - so the FL would be on the second highest level of knowledge / insight), and Historical Novel A had the least information (it only covered the original historical timeline - so the transmigrator who took over Xie Yong Er would have the lowest level of knowledge / insight).
[Note: The transmigrator who took over Xiahou Dan only read the synopsis for Transmigration Novel B, so he had very little information about the characters or the plot.]
The FL later concludes that Xiahou Bo is probably not a transmigrator, but she acknowledges that she has no way of knowing for sure whether her “real world” is actually real or if it is fictional / if her story is actually just the plot of Hypothetical Novel C.
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First, he worried that telling her the truth would shatter the closeness and trust that had been built between them.
And second, although he didn't want to shatter that closeness and trust, he would rather have her doubt him than break her heart. And it seems that he assumes that revealing the truth and the depth of his suffering and everything he did in those 15 years after he transmigrated would break her heart, which seems like a fair assumption tbh.
It felt like either she figured out that although they are all transmigrators, she is not the same as Xiahou Dan and Yu Wan Yin and that she is a fictional character from a fictional "real world" while they are people from the *actual* real world (maybe she overheard them speaking about it?) OR she is going to die in the imminent chaos and it's going to be heartbreaking.
But Cherrymotion only asked, "Could it be that prince duan had been suspecting that the emperor was different since they were younger?" She didn't ask if Prince Duan knew that Xiahou Dan was a transmigrator.
So the answer to the question that she asked was "Yes" (not "No"), and then a further explanation could be given.
When he and Zhang San / Xiahou Dan were both still young, he found out that Zhang San / Xiahou Dan was looking for someone else who was "the same kind".
Many years later he found out that Xiahou Dan, Yu Wan Yin, and Xie Yong Er were "the same kind" and he was tricked into believing that they each had the gift of foresight through their dreams. So he didn't find out that they were actually transmigrators from another world who had taken over characters within a historical novel.
Although he never found out that Xiahou Dan was a transmigrator from another world, he did have some idea that Xiahou Dan was different for a long, long time.
Zhang San is the real name of the ML. That was his name in the real world before he transmigrated into the story and took over the role of Xiahou Dan, just like the FL’s name in the real world was Wang Cui Hua before she transmigrated into the story and took over the role of Yu Wan Yin.
Before he transmigrated into the story, he was just a middle school kid in the real world. When he transmigrated into the story, he took over the character that was just a prince at that time. He kept the prince title for years and he grew up trapped inside the story before later becoming the Emperor and eventually meeting the FL when she transmigrated into the story 15+ years after he transmigrated into it. He lied when he told the FL that he had only transmigrated into the story a few hours before they met. He was not a CEO nor an actor before he transmigrated into the story. He was only a middle school student. And then he grew up inside the story, constantly searching (in vain, until he met the FL) for another transmigrator like himself.
The actor who plays young Zhang San / Xiahou Dan in those Zhang San Diary flashback scenes is the same actor that plays Xiahou Dan’s biological son (Xiahou Po) in the present story, where he is the current crown prince. The current crown prince (Xiahou Po) is not a transmigrator.
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Xie Yong Er is a transmigrator, but she transmigrated from one fictional world (one that is based on our modern world) into another fictional world (the world of a historical novel). This transmigrator is the fictional protagonist of the novel that the FL of How Dare You skimmed and was supposed to edit (a transmigration novel titled "The Devil's Beloved Consort").
Xiahua Bo is not a transmigrator. He's just a cunning and observant character.
So far, the leads (transmigrators who took over the characters of Yu Wan Yin and Xiahua Dan) are the only characters who are confirmed to be non-fictional people who transmigrated into the historical story from the real world.
She is a fictional character who transmigrated from her own fictional version of our modern world (a fictional world that only exists in the transmigration book that the FL of How Dare You is asked to edit - The Devil's Beloved Consort) into a historical novel (a historical novel that only exists within / for the purposes of the plot of the transmigration novel - The Devil's Beloved Consort). She had read the historical novel to its end before she transmigrated into it, so she knew how the story went and could take action based on her knowledge of other characters' plans and future events. In the original version of the historical novel, Xie Yong Er was only a cannon fodder character. When the modern-day protagonist of The Devil's Beloved Consort transmigrated into the historical story and took over the character of Xie Yong Er, she changed its events and Xie Yong Er became the main character.
Whereas the leads of How Dare You transmigrated from the real world into the transmigration novel that the FL was asked to edit (The Devil's Beloved Consort). The FL skimmed the transmigration novel to its end before transmigrating into it, so she knows the main plot points of that novel and how the protagonist changed the outcome of the historical novel. But after transmigrating into the story and taking over the roles of Yu Wan Yin and Xiahua Dan, the leads change events so that they no longer follow the events of the original historical novel and also no longer follow the events of the transmigration novel (The Devil's Beloved Consort). In the new version of the historical story (the "How Dare You" version), it seems like the transmigrators from the real world will be the main characters and the transmigrator who was the protagonist of The Devil's Beloved Consort (who transmigrated from a fictional "real world" into the historical novel and took over Xie Yong Er's character) will be relegated to a secondary character role this time.
Rose said that Jack saved her in every way a person could be saved before he died according to his principles long before the natural end of his life. In the end, Rose not only survived, but successfully escaped her previous life, family and identity.
She lived a long, full life with her new identity on her own terms, willingly married another man (not one that was forced upon her by her family / social position), and had children and grandchildren, just as Jack wished for her. And although she did all of that, she never, ever forgot Jack. Her very last act, at 100 years old, was to return the Heart of the Ocean to the place where he died. And then she died, and her soul reunited with Jack in their own version of heaven.
Still tragic, but a bit more on the bittersweet side compared to Romeo and Juliet.
We saw the consequences of her actions. The Dowager Empress demoted the FL from Consort to Concubine and ordered her guards to send the FL to the Cold Palace... which is away from "the tyrant" but not exactly a nice outcome for the FL.
But it's also possible that she wasn't trying to help the FL and instead was acting on behalf of someone else... like Xiahou Bo / Prince Dan, perhaps?
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful!
The FL explained to the transmigrator who took over Xiahou Dan that the real Xiahou Bo character from the original story has a deep grudge against Xiahou Dan. Xiahou Bo will not rest until that grudge is satisfied by Xiahou Dan's death - not even handing over the throne would stop him. The only way to stop him from orchestrating Xiahou Dan's death would be for Xiahou Bo to die first.
But if the real Xiahou Bo has been taken over by a transmigrator, the transmigrator might not care so much about the real Xiahou Bo's grudge. So it might be possible to reach a different outcome (everybody lives!) if Xiahou Bo has been taken over by a transmigrator.
Therefore, Xiahou Dan concludes that the FL is saying that, "If he's a transmigrator, then we might have a chance to reconcile. But if he's not, then only one of us will get to live."
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Do you remember the synopsis for The Devil's Beloved Consort at the very beginning of the drama? It said that it was a transmigration novel (Transmigration Novel B) about a girl who read a historical novel (Historical Novel A) and then transmigrated into that novel. Then the FL is asked to edit that novel (Transmigration Novel B).
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Historical Novel A (A Thousand Trees Blossoming at Night in the East) - A historical novel. In the original version of this historical novel, Xie Yong Er is only a cannon-fodder character.
Transmigration Novel B (The Devil's Beloved Consort) - A transmigration novel that tells the story of a girl from a fictional version of the real world who reads Novel A. After reading Historical Novel A, this girl is transmigrated into Historical Novel A, takes over the character Xie Yong Er, and changes the events of the historical novel so that Xie Yong Er becomes the main character.
Story C (How Dare You) - In the TRUE “real world”, the FL is tasked with editing Transmigration Novel B. She skims Transmigration Novel B (which covers the events of Historical Novel A and how the transmigrator female protagonist changed them), is transmigrated into Transmigration Novel B, takes over the character Yu Wan Yin, meets two other transmigrators, and changes the events of the historical novel so that Yu Wan Yin becomes the main character and Xie Yong Er is sidelined into being a secondary female character.
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So there are at least two “real worlds”. There is the seemingly TRUE “real world” of Story C that the FL is from before she transmigrates, and there is the definitely-fictional “real world” of Transmigration Novel B, which is the fictional “real world” that the transmigrator from Transmigration Novel B is originally from before she transmigrates.
And there are three versions of the same historical novel world events.
--The original version of these events is told in Historical Novel A.
--A modified version (influenced by one transmigrator) is told in Transmigration Novel B.
--A different modified version (influenced by at least three transmigrators) is unfolding in Story C.
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The FL has skimmed Transmigration Novel B, so she knows that the transmigrator who took over Xie Yong Er came from a fictional “real world”, which is described in that novel. The FL assumes that the “real world” that she (the FL) came from is actually real, but she acknowledges that it is possible that her “real world” might *also* be fictional. There could be a novel-within-a-novel-within-a-novel setup so that Historical Novel A exists in Transmigration Novel B which exists in a separate novel that tells Story C (so… Hypothetical Novel C) and that Hypothetical Novel C could exist in a world that was actually real. In that scenario, the “lowest” or “least real” world would be the “real world” in Transmigration Novel B, above that would be the “real world” that the FL came from in Hypothetical Novel C, and then there would be a separate “higher” or “more real” world where Hypothetical Novel C existed and could be read by a “real” person.
At one point, the leads wonder if Xiahou Bo (Prince Duan / the SML / antagonist) might be a transmigrator. If he was a transmigrator, the FL knows he didn’t come from the same world that the transmigrator who took over Xie Yong Er came from (the fictional “real world” in Transmigration Novel B), because the FL skimmed Transmigration Novel B. So that would leave two possibilities. Either he came from the same world that the FL came from (in which case he might’ve read Transmigration Novel B, just skimmed it like the FL, or just read the synopsis like the ML who transmigrated and took over Xiahou Dan) OR the world that the FL came from is actually fictional (she is just a character in Hypothetical Novel C) and Xiahou Bo came from the TRUE “real world” which is “higher” or “more real” than the FL’s world. If that second option was true, it would potentially be a big problem because it would mean that Xiahou Bo could’ve read Hypothetical Novel C in the TRUE real world before he transmigrated into the historical novel world, which would mean he would have a lot of information about the FL and about how events could play out in the same way that the FL has a lot of information about Xie Yong Er and how events might play out because she read Transmigration Novel B.
Hypothetical Novel C would have the most information (it would cover all versions of the historical timeline and two fictional "real worlds" of other transmigrators - so Xiahou Bo would be on the highest level of knowledge / insight), Transmigration Novel B would have the second most information (it covers two versions of the historical timeline and one fictional "real world" of another transmigrator - so the FL would be on the second highest level of knowledge / insight), and Historical Novel A had the least information (it only covered the original historical timeline - so the transmigrator who took over Xie Yong Er would have the lowest level of knowledge / insight).
[Note: The transmigrator who took over Xiahou Dan only read the synopsis for Transmigration Novel B, so he had very little information about the characters or the plot.]
The FL later concludes that Xiahou Bo is probably not a transmigrator, but she acknowledges that she has no way of knowing for sure whether her “real world” is actually real or if it is fictional / if her story is actually just the plot of Hypothetical Novel C.