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The drama intends to follow the original story. I believe this was confirmed at some point by the director, or someone who has read the source material.

That makes sense. I did suspect that it may be a case of translation and just a "different" definition of bromance as a result, since when it comes to Chinese and English, there are just so many nuances that get lost and are impossible to bridge. English translations can get the story and dialogue across, but they rarely do the Chinese language, especially in the historical setting, full justice.

It does seem deceiving in some cases though to use "bromance" with an audience that isn't familiar with the implications of what it's really trying to say that is present in Chinese. It's unfortunate that it's the closest word in English that can be used for that concept.

On a side note, I'll have to check out those dramas you mentioned!

I personally don't know much about the scriptwriter in terms of their other works, but I'm pretty sure that while they're not going to show Mo Ran and Chu Wanning kissing or having sex, the drama will still follow the novel's story.

Yeah. It wasn't like there wasn't any romance between Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji in the drama. I suspect comparatively speaking, the novel tends to feel more romantic and intimate since the reader is more completely or personally in on the raw experience, including kissing and having sex; dialogue; perspective; and thoughts.

That is, when I say "bromance", I'm sort of assuming other people are using that definition that it's, like, romantic but not explicit. It's not necessarily a super accurate definition, but it seems to be how it's defined by quite a lot of people... unless I'm like painfully wrong, for which I'm sorry if that's the case.

They don't have a trailer out, so if anything is airing tomorrow, it will be the trailer. The show itself is rumored to air sometime in March at the earliest.

It will be a bromance at best. If there is a kiss in this drama, it would be between Shi Mei and Mo Ran because it's between a girl and a guy -- not Mo Ran and Chu Wanning.

The strict homosexuality ban in China was always a thing, and will likely continue to be a thing. Neither The Untamed nor Immortality nor any adapted-from-BL show to come is an exception.

In my eyes, the only thing that can be compared to The Untamed is a hypothetical remake of the show, as The Untamed objectively wasn't a perfect show, by any means. Immortality should just be left alone; it is based on a completely different novel.

I believe rumor has it somewhere between March and July. It's slated for 2021, so probably sometime this year, but that's really the only thing that's been anything near set in stone.

I mean, I did find the problematic scenes, well, problematic, obviously. I didn't find them fun to watch.

But if this show didn't include the problematic things, then the question, in turn, would be, "Why were there no problematic elements when the protagonists are two traumatized teens?" It would just be a show that undermines trauma as something that can be cured or ignored just because they're a little grown up, but if they removed the trauma, and thus didn't include problematic things, then that's just an unfaithful adaptation.

Maybe this is not too related, so sorry in advance. I personally like it because this is a show about two anti-heroic young teens, arguably. Neither Tharn nor Type are saints, and the show doesn't bother to hide their deeply flawed side that has been affected by trauma just because they are protagonists of the story. Maybe it's true the characters don't change, but when the root of it comes from trauma, it's not easy to change. Sure, it's possible with the help of people who can be there as love-and-support, but that's still a far cry from gratuitous or instantaneous. Trauma isn't even curable - it's something people have to learn to live with for the rest of their lives. Am I saying trauma justifies them? No. But it is true that it doesn't shape a person in a good way, and it's hard to navigate life with a demon you can never remove. To me, it depicts what a romance would look like between two traumatized young people. It may not be the most healthy even if they genuinely love each other, but if it had been depicted as one, I would have given this show a lower rating. The synopsis and rating itself don't hide much - if you don't like it, you don't have to watch it. This show isn't for everyone. I happen to like it for its slap-in-the-face reality and showing two anti-heroes (not that I dislike fluff or shows that are healthy; I also love 30-sai Dotei Made), but this type of thing doesn't click with everyone, understandably.

From what I gather, its bad reviews mainly stem from the presence of sexual assault, toxicity, violence, abuse, and homophobia, and people don't like it because yes, it's blatantly ugly. The show doesn't bother to sugarcoat it in consideration for younger viewers - it's rated R18 for a reason. It's not a show that targets young people in the first place, though it may present itself as such... like with that deceiving cover poster.

But it's not a show that glorifies such topics. What you're seeing is a story of two anti-heroes who have struggled with abuse and trauma that affects them even today. That is why their relationship is very flawed and sometimes a bit queasy to look at. While the show could have done some polishing with dialogue, it rawly depicts the ugly truth of reality, not the prim-and-perfect fantasy of our idealistic expectations. A certain side character may not get the result you want or proper justice considering his f-ed up actions, but guess what? That's reality.

Despite the shadows of their past and inner demons, their trauma and abuse, they learn from each other. They fuck up like normal teens, and they learn like normal teens. They are moronic assholes in their own way, not saints to be seen through rose-colored glasses. They are teens in every aspect, not fully mature people. They love each other, and their chemistry undeniably shows, but the journey they take to healthily culminate their love is far from smooth sail, even as they try. Yes, it sounds ugly, but that's its beauty as well.

I feel this is a show that is beautiful and ugly, mostly slap-in-the-face realistic of two very traumatized people, and just... different? I, for one, can't think of another show that centers around not one, but two child sexual abuse survivors, so I can't help but admire the author and actors for tackling characters like those in TharnType. It's obviously not for the faint-hearted though, and if you think all relationships are all fluff and rainbows, this show will brutally rip apart that ideal right in front of your eyes. I frankly don't understand why people who seem sensitive to these topics watch this show, even though the synopsis itself is cut-dry and open about the story containing such sensitive topics.

I think it's drama-only. It may be because they both share a director and lead actors. Overall, it's probably easier to think of it as two separate dramas at this point.

Till Death Tear Us Apart and Love is More than a Word essentially depict two lives of the same pairing. Liu Yusheng and Zhou Yaohua are the reincarnations of Tao Mo and Gu She, respectively. In short, Till Death Tear Us Apart is the spiritual sequel.