cherrypie

i get that you’re trying to frame him as tragic and complicated, but the problem is how you’re romanticizing emotional collapse. being overwhelmed by guilt or fear doesn’t suddenly make someone’s actions morally acceptable. you keep calling it “love,” but love doesn’t involve making life-or-death decisions for someone else because they don’t meet your expectations. that’s control, pure and simple.

and the documentary? the way he presented it wasn’t some neutral truth-telling exercise. he framed her as the villain while conveniently ignoring his own role in enabling her behavior, and painted nearly everyone else as victims. that isn’t nuance, that’s self-serving storytelling. feeling sorry for him doesn’t change that pattern or make it less harmful.

the reality is, tragedy and obsession aren’t the same as morality. you can care about someone deeply and still cross the line. but crossing that line doesn’t make it “complicated love,” it makes it dangerous and abusive behavior.

it wasn’t love, not ever. what they had was a trauma bond. he didn’t care about her as a person, he cared about the version of her he made up in his head, and he tried to force her into it. that’s not tragic or romantic; it’s possessive, obsessive, and controlling. the fact that he was willing to kill her and himself when she didn’t fit what he wanted proves this was never about care or respect. real love doesn’t destroy the person you claim to care about.

and the whole “exposing the truth” argument? that doesn’t excuse him. he conveniently ignored the fact that he was actively enabling her, painted her as the sole villain, and framed almost everyone else in the documentary as victims. some of the people presented as innocent were actually her abusers, and he glossed over his own role entirely. that’s not justice. that’s him rewriting the story so he looks morally clean while hiding the fact that he was complicit in enabling her.

comparing him to her husband isn’t crazy. different methods, same messed-up dynamic: erasing her autonomy so he could have her on his terms. her husband did it with drugs and manipulation; jun-seo did it with jealousy, sabotage, and emotional pressure. both punished her when she didn’t behave the way they wanted. the only difference is how obvious it was; the control, the obsession, the entitlement? that’s the same.

and calling him “tragic” or “desperate”? no. emotional collapse doesn’t make it okay to try to kill someone because they aren’t the person you want them to be. that’s dangerous obsession, plain and simple, and it mirrors exactly what happens in real-life cases where men kill their partners and themselves. that’s not devotion, that’s control disguised as heartbreak. attempting to kill someone while you're trying to kill yourself is one of the most selfish things you could do.

love respects the other person’s autonomy. he didn’t. he sabotaged her, enabled her, manipulated the narrative, and put her life at risk. that’s not love. that’s possession, violence, and abuse, dressed up as tragedy.

jin ah even said it, he was her last shackle.

yes, he wanted to possess her like her husband. jin ah was happy with in gang (she dated him for more than a year) and he got jealous. he was trying to sabotage something that was going good for once. he wrote the novel using jin ah's traumatizing past to profit off of and had a part in the documentary. he literally tried to destroy her life. he acted like he had moral superiority over her when he's just as bad as she is. he didn't want to kill her dad but he's okay with killing her??? he wanted her on his terms. and when he finally realized she'll never be that person. he decides to kill himself and her in the process. that is not love. that is something many men have done to women in real life. they kill their partner and then themselves.

jesus christ, that's not love. he was obsessed with her and just wanted to possess her just like jin ah's husband.

any confirmed ott yet?

any updates on this?

any ott confirmed yet?

the drama isn't even out yet 🤦‍♀️

any updates on this?

is this gonna be on hbo max in all regions or just asia?

like god forbid two girls have a complex flawed relationship with each other.

yup, start of the imjin war

why does shin ye eun have a main role when she doesn't have that much screen time?

it was mentioned early in the drama that he used to be a taekwondo athlete when he was younger and he was going to join the national team.

girl what

on episode 9 and this isn't that bad? why did people not like this?

we don't know his character's age either. he's only had like five minutes of screentime so far.

how do they not match, she's only two years older than him??

she was not a sociopath, she acted like that because of her trauma. (what happened to her uncle) so she's mentally "stuck" at that age. that's why she acts "childish".

her character in this drama is young, and in nine puzzles she acts "childish" because of her trauma. she's doing a good job of portraying the characters.