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would've given it a higher rating, but towards the ending it was disappointing :/

i would also like to know, since i watched the last 3 eps raw:
did yi han actually sleep with qing qing?
or did qing qing just took a photo of them together in bed?

it's been 3 months since you've commented but it's never too late to recommend, right? :')

not sure if you've watch these two (but you most likely have already watched them haha), but i would recommend boss&me and my sunshine because together with love o2o, they're all written by the same author and the stories actually link together if you've read the novels.

for me, the romance is pretty satisfying because the story really makes you only care for the main leads and not mess with your heart due to "second lead syndrome". pretty much the story will be going in the direction that you wish for.

as for love triangles, this depends on what your lvl of a "love triangle" is because in season 1, our mc is not just herself (xiao tan), but she also lives as qu tan er.

s1 -
mo lian cheng + xiao tan = happy ending (they're our main couple and also the ones that makes this drama shine. their relationship starts a bit rocky because of qu tan er's past connection with mo yi huai, but as lian cheng finds out about xiao tan, he warms up to her and even accepts her modern views and judgements. for a cdrama, they're chemistry is pretty steamy haha)

qu tan er + mo yi huai + qu pan er = sad ending (qu tan er and mo yi huai has a past together, but they're destined to be apart. mo yi huai ended up having to marry qu pan er but he does not return his feelings for her, so for qu pan er it's a one-sided love. in season 1, i'd like to believe that yi huai and tan er are the pair because after their deaths, they still think about one another, which is pretty tragic for them.)

s2 -
i thought i would be pretty disappointed in season 2 because generally they cannot meet the expectation of season 1. boy i was wrong though. instead of xiao tan's character being the interesting one, this time it's mo lian cheng.

mo lian cheng + xiao tan = happy ending (they have their fair share of being jealous in this season because lian cheng has two identities in this season, one as lian cheng and one as liu shang (who is played by another actor). then, of course, there's the real "mo lian cheng," you'll have to watch it to know what i'm talking about lmao. (but as a viewer, i find it very funny every time lian cheng is jealous of "himself"). their story is not as light-hearted as season 1 but it's still light-hearted and enjoyable (season 2's story is a bit darker than season 1).

qu tan er + mo yi huai + qu pan er = sad ending (tan er didn't appear until close to the ending for like a few minutes for closure (if i remember correctly) because i think the writer wants to give a chance to develop mo yi huai's and qu pan er's relationship more, despite it still ending in tragic. but qu pan er's character is less annoying in this season because she is able to show a softer side of her in this season compared to season 1.

mo jing xuan + jing xin = happy ending (it was predicted since season 1 that the writer was going to somehow pair these two together and yes the writer did just that. they're pretty cute and i'm just glad that mo jing xuan was given better outfits than the ridiculous outfits he wore in season 1 because of low-budget production haha.)

hope this helps!

because this was screen-written by the same person who wrote the eternal love, my expectation of this drama is a little harsh. i'm giving it a 6.5 because there were too many similarities to the eternal love despite it having a different plot.

note: i have not read the manhua, so my thoughts are purely based on the drama.

love by hypnotic felt like a shadow of the eternal love and that makes it less refreshing to watch. even the setting and characters are quite similar. they even mentioned dongyue kingdom and used the same colour palette for the settings, so i'm assuming the writer was hoping to attempt to make this a similar series as the eternal love...which makes it more disappointing because despite some tweaks here and there in the plot and characterisation —it did not meet the expectation of the eternal love. of course, i might be wrong? idk, but that's just my two cents.

however, i cannot ignore the chemistry between the leads —the spark is there. acting-wise, i'm not too critical because i know these are pretty young and new actors. hopefully with time and more experiences they can improve and not disappoint viewers in the future.

this drama defs had a higher production budget than the eternal love 1. it would be interesting to wonder: if love by hypnotic was produced using the budget of the eternal love 1, would it still be well-received? and considering the success of the eternal love 1, would it be more popular if it had the production budget of love by hypnotic?

i think another beauty about the "it's not just I love you" is that it's a realistic situation in that era/dynasty. people rarely married for love in those times and if there is any kind of love before the marriage, they're most likely going to be parted by their families, who would rather marry their child to a person of high status or wealth (this is nicely depicted through minglan's sisters' marriage; some worked out, some obviously didn't) .

the nice twist in minglan is that both minglan and tingye were treated like shit in their family, and when they married, their marriage wasn't seen as something 'special' or something to be proud of because they were somehow both of 'low status' in their family. of course, they did not care and lived their life righteously and ended up being a power couple :D

following Just_Zentoshi's comment, i think it happened around ep 64 or 65 :)
it's such a turning point for the father imo, you can sort of tell he has regrets. but as a man in that kind of society, it's hard to act fair.

tbh, i don't think runyu was 'waiting' for his 'unborn fiancee', but rather he was put into that position without a choice and he knows it himself and was willingly to live that quiet and looked-down life...until all was too much to handle and he decided to fight back and start all of the schemes which led to his rightful ending imo. it was his punishment for all the wrongs he has done despite being treated unfairly from the start —this cannot ignore the fact that he did commit crimes.

from the start, everyone could already see that jinmi's father and the wind immortal were never going to have children (especially the heavenly emperor because he knows that the person who jinmi's father loved was jinmi's mother). by betrothing runyu to a yet unexisting 'child' was basically a trap for runyu to never get married (and the happiest person here would be the heavenly empress) because when he does it is likely that he would have children and that would put xu feng's position at risk of becoming crown prince (it would also make runyu powerless because his life was technically controlled by the heavenly couple through a never-happening marriage). these things were not explained, but it's basic knowledge when it comes to these types of drama and royal families. imo though, it was already quite obvious how these characters were feeling towards each other and why they feel the need to set up these things. jinmi, runyu and xufeng were literally chess pieces used by the heavenly couple and were the ones who started all of the mess because of their jealousy and greediness.

maybe you can try the eternal love? there are 2 seasons so far, the 3rd should be coming in 2020. both seasons were equally enjoyable imo, which is rare for chinese dramas these days :)

i'm like resisting myself from starting any episodes because i know waiting for new episodes would be such a pain (since i know for sure i will be enjoying this drama). so far, is it good? :')

lmao that’s a first for someone to say that they want to borrow my comments...i don’t know how to react or feel about this xD

ahhh, it’s a little hard to explain it any other way and idk how else i could explain it because when i watch a drama that has similar storylines i just kind of know it by the way it has been portrayed onscreen or in novels. i guess it could be open for interpretation and it depends on what rebirth means to you and how it works in your imagination (it won’t be open for interpretation tho if the writer or director explains it very straight-forwardly (such as describing and showing the process of the rebirth), but in aol jinmi was just shown to have been reborn without showing a process so we can use our imagination on this one :)

i have a friend who told me this and i thought it was quite clever (though not 100% accurate because there’s really no way to find any accuracy in topics like rebirth lmao). she said that jinmi’s rebirth could possibly be something like what happened when she entered the mortal realm for redemption (in which she did not remember anything from her immortal identity. but when she returned to her immortal identity, she could still remember her mortal identity and the things she has done). we have to think of this in reverse for the rebirth case. i’m probably the one not making sense this time lmao. ...are you lost?

and it’s okay for intruding. you weren’t really intruding tbh because this page is open to the public anyways :/

“and I never “assumed” or would even “think” of anyone else being biased or narrow minded bcoz of a show and it won’t be wise or mature of us to say such things bcoz of a drama.” —correct me if i’m wrong but you literally said in one of your previous comments, “i can clearly see that ur opinion is quite biased regarding xe feng's character.” ...im aware that you couldve said that because i did mention that ,”perhaps i was already a little biased before i had started the drama because i really loved xu feng's character in the novel,” (and im not denying that i couldve been biased) but your reply is considered as ‘assuming’ because you said “i can clearly see that” so it makes your comment look like you’re saying that i am biased. altogether, this doesn’t support your statement from the previous comment because you, too, also “assumed”.

were you being immature and unwise because of that? well, not imo because it was your freedom of speech, whether it’s related to a tv show or not. and so my “i think” was also my freedom of speech :/ if you really do think that it’s immature and unwise to let someone be aware that maybe theyre being biased then it looks like we’re both immature and unwise :)

/facepalm/ should i be offended that you suggested me some good faith when you don’t even know if i believe in faith or not? this is a rhetorical question btw...

are my comments confusing because english is not my first language? well, im not sure because i can’t really judge my own comments... :/

i have no intentions to carry on this “discussion” anymore too because we’re both not coming into any conclusions since we can’t seem to find any rationality in our exchange anyways.

i hope you have a good day. cheers! xx

omggg i totally agree with you about chinese paladin. it was an enjoyable drama, but was frustrating to watch because of how bad they treated/portrayed liu yifei's character :s

i wouldn’t have known about the argument that happened “in the last drama” because i cannot read your mind, so it was still creepy to “test” my patience... :(

there’s a difference between directly saying someone is narrow-minded and thinking someone is narrow-minded. i was simply just showing my opinion (and of course to make you aware that the way you worded your statements from the discussions could make you appear to seem narrow-minded (and biased)). i’m not trying to accuse you that you are narrow-minded. i did make it clear by saying “i think,” so it wasn’t an assumption and i didn’t conclude that you’re narrow-minded either :/ and in case you missed it from my previous comment, i literally said “i have no right as a stranger.”

hmmmmmmm, i disagree with “only time will tell who is actually what.” it’s true to some extent but depending on the context it is used in —not in this context though because if i hadn’t told you then you wouldn’t be aware of how others might be perceiving your comments. this is probably the reason why there was an argument in the last drama for you.

haha if you’re gonna watch a historical drama, especially anything involving royalties or the palace, polygamy is unavoidable because that was how society worked back in the days xD

well no, the fact that you told me that —made it creepy...people don’t go around testing other people’s patience especially when we’re not at an intimate friendship stage. that’s weird :/

i won’t comment further about runyu and xu feng because it’s never ending if we keep discussing lmao. and i will comment no further about why i think you were biased or kind of narrow-minded about the story/character because i can’t change you and i will not because i have no right as a stranger. different people, different opinion, i’m sure you would agree on this one :)

well, princess agents. i haven’t read the novel and don’t think i ever will. tbh, i didn’t like the drama. not only did it have so much violence but the way they portrayed and treated the female characters were as if they were not even human. when it first aired, i questioned why it was even adapted into a drama in the first place, moreover with awareness that young people had access to watch it while so much violence was shown, especially against women. surprised me more that china agreed for a plot like that to be aired :/ i agree that women in medieval times could be treated badly, but that drama was too much for me + plus the cgi was horrible lmao. and i’m not saying that violence cannot be shown in dramas/films, but there should be limitations. i watched deng lun on dad, where are we going and the little girl he was being a trainee dad for watched the drama. she’s pretty young...and already exposed to a violent drama like that. it’s inappropriate imo.

it’s personal preference as well. genres like princess agents aren’t my cup of tea. i was also mainly put off by the fact that the original author of the novel plagiarised from several other authors, so part of me didn’t want to support the production. same thing with eternal love and weiyoung: these two were lucky tho cause i enjoyed weiyoung thoroughly, while the second half of eternal love became interesting for me. but that was all, nothing special or charming considering that they had mary-sue characters :/

i want to make it clear that i was not losing my patience and i don’t see why you need to “test” my patience...? that’s actually kind of creepy... (?) x’D if i did make you feel uncomfortable for my seem-to-be-impatient reply, i apologise (?)

i also never implied that you were trying to force me to read the book, so please don’t take this too deeply. additionally, i think you should reread my previous comment again as i’ve clearly stated that i never intended to convince you to side with my pov, which is basically the same as “everything is different that's why the opinion and the way we perceive things are different.”

it might not apply to you, but there are people in the world who actually replies to comments while being narrow-minded. i don’t want to appear rude either, but as i was reading your previous comments, your idea of having an open-mind doesn’t seem so open-minded from my perspective. perhaps it’s the tone of your writing, idk. perhaps because english is not your first language? excusable and relatable because it’s not my first language either :’) i apologise if this might sound hurtful. i have no intentions to make you feel bad or anything; just want you to be aware of this because other people may not take it so lightly and may not think that this is just a simple “discussion”, but rather an argument (there are crazy fans out there that you do not want to come across smh).

i’m glad we’re finally (kind of) on the same page. i agree that “wrong cannot be considered as right.” :)

as for xu feng, i never said that there was no fault in his character. or if you can quote something from my previous comments about him being perfect, i’m happy to say i’m wrong.

i don’t see anything bad in being biased so why can’t you see yourself being biased in this case? the reason why i’m saying you’re biased is because all of your statements from the previous comments make it appear that you’re only thinking from runyu’s perspective, and this affected the way you’re perceiving the other characters. this is biased. if you were unbiased, there would be at least two sides to your viewpoints.

in case you feel like the atmosphere is kind of awkward from our small misunderstanding, here’s a heart for you :D <3 we can all be friends haha <3

having read the novel or not does not determine whether you and i are biased or not. you’re clearly siding with runyu, which makes you biased…being unbiased is when you have a neutral viewpoint. and evidently, you admitted, “no matter what u might explain to me i wont be able to accept that.” when one is unbiased, they will have an open-mind.

i’m not trying to convince you anything from the previous discussions —just wanted to share my perspective about the story and the characters. but if you’re uninterested and unwilling to be open-minded about the viewpoints that i’ve shared, then i’m backing out.

ashes of love was adapted into a drama because the novel was a huge hit in china, so the drama itself was mainly catering to chinese audiences. unless the chinese doesn’t know their own culture, why would producers have to add details to explain? the shows that you have mentioned, in contrast, were actually heavily promoted internationally and locally…and all of them had popular actresses such as yang mi, dilraba, tang yan and zhao liying, who are loved by many, many, many international fans so they’re an easy hit (and believe it or not, many people actually don't care how bad the story/character can be and they would still enjoy it because the drama has cast that they like + find favourable to see onscreen).

can i also say that i am offended by the fact that you’re assuming that my knowledge of karma is little? first off, you don’t even know me as a person to even make that judgement and second of all, it’s pretty rude considering the fact that you don’t even know if I’m religious or not to know enough about karma. each culture share different beliefs about karma, so I would advise for you to not say that to anyone else because it can actually be quite offensive…i’m trying to save you from any trouble for the future :)

and I’m sorry for the long comment, i couldn’t help it. hope this is not too long to read :) cheers xx

in response to your comment, i’m going to try to keep it short as possible since I’ve already covered up some of my pov in my reply to tsukushi makino.

“This story, each character is like a whole big mess tangling up with one another it's so hard to argue who is more right and who is wrong.” —well, tbh all the characters had their right and wrong moments. none of them were just right or just wrong. so I agree that they’re all flawed :)

i disagree about the yundan. in fact, i reckon it impacted a lot of her decisions and actions throughout the drama prior to spitting it out. i also disagree, very strongly, about “only seen/heard/read about it should be more than enough.” life is about experiences and what we watched from the drama was her journey of those experiences. yep, i agree that some of her decisions and actions may appear brainless, but no, she’s just having a lost of of identity and the will to control herself emotionally and psychologically.

i think you’re thinking too seriously about this whole love concept and perhaps too (pseudo)scientifically (?). it’s a fictional story and obviously there could never be a yundan in rl. the “love” that she was meant to not feel was simply just romantic love. this means that she can still feel other emotions. you have even said it yourself, “The feelings associated with love is, all sorts of feelings.” therefore, when romantic love was taken away from her, this made an impact on her other emotions too. it contains confusion and an act of rashness because her emotions are not balanced.

the “love” in this case cannot be seen as a whole word or be read or interpreted as it is. i have mentioned it before, there’s friendship love, romantic love, family love, and etc and what jinmi couldn’t feel was simply romantic love —nothing more complicated, nothing more complex like the 2 categories of love you listed.

well, i would say that we’re both being biased here :) i can clearly see that your opinion is quite biased of runyu’s character when you said “I fell in love with leo luo ...aka run yu.” i’m not trying to pick up an argument here, but the tone of your comment makes it seem like you can’t accept any other opinions other than your own…

i respect your comment because it gives me another insight about the story/drama, which is refreshing. however, it doesn’t seem like you understand/view the story from an ancient era [pov] even though you claimed to “know its about ancient time period.” i can’t see it being reflected in your comment, especially when you said “its about feeling and respect not about blood and neither about status.” people from the ancient times do care about feelings and respect, but for them —idk about other cultures, but in chinese culture, blood-relations and status play very big roles in society, some which can sadly still be seen nowadays. if feelings and respect were so important back in the days, we wouldn't have princes killing each other for the throne or have corrupt officials in every city while the poor stayed poor.

i still believe that for xu feng to not do anything in the beginning for runyu was already helping him. although xu feng is a prince, his status expects him to behave in a certain way so he is limited to do certain things (this is very normal, especially for families born into aristocracy because how they behave also impact their family name. in this case, it’s the heavenly realm). the same thing applies for runyu. so neither of them spoke up which then led to all the events that happened in the story because they never properly sat down to communicate the problem. if xu feng were to take any actions in standing up for runyu, this would not only anger tu yao even more, but it would also shatter their brotherhood (even though they were not close). xu feng could even be mistaken as pretentious and this could make runyu feel useless and helpless than he already was in the heavenly realm. it’s similar to the concept of: only speak when you know what you’re talking about because if you don’t then you’re only going to make the situation worse.

in response to why saving runyu would be embarrassing —the one embarrassed would not be xu feng, but would be runyu because he is the older brother. this is also why I’ve mentioned earlier that I feel that you’re not thinking of the story from an ancient pov: in ancient times, those who has higher status would not want for anyone lower to help them. applying this on xu feng and runyu, the status here is their position in the family; runyu is the older brother while xu feng is the younger one. although xu feng made more achievements than runyu and was more respected by those in the heavenly realm, it doesn’t change the fact that runyu is a senior to xu feng. while runyu couldn’t clearly see it, but xu feng obviously respected this because he never made things hard for runyu. xu feng could have simply worked with his mother to plot something against runyu and finish him for good, but he didn’t do anything. if xu feng were to help runyu directly, it would not only hurt runyu’s pride, but would make him feel more useless.

at the end of the drama, we can see that xu feng actually cared for runyu. if he didn’t he wouldn’t have saved runyu from qiong qi even though runyu brought it all upon himself. xu feng made it clear that the heavenly emperor gave the sword to him to fight against qiong qi, not to kill his brother. by acknowledging runyu as a brother…if this is not caring, then idk what is in your dictionary. xu feng could’ve simply used that opportunity to kill runyu for the wrongs he has committed, but he didn’t because they are brothers.

again, you’re thinking too deeply about the story from a modern perspective, “as long as she determined she can do anything”. Well, yes I would agree to this statement if this was a modern drama, but ancient people (women) don’t have mindsets like that; very rare at least.

as for the debts, hmmmm, well we can’t expect all the karma to fall on xu feng because overall he is innocent. tai wei and tu yao got their punishment from their deaths, although it was a very easy one but they died. what else could be expected more? revive the dead and those they have harmed in the past? or what else could xu feng have done to repay the debts for his parents? die once again?

in regards to this, “The past run yu had has nothing to do with sympathy but with justice he must seek not only for his mother but for all the other innocent lives which were killed without any reason and who's life were ruined for no reason” —well, this is what a lot of people misinterpreted and fell for, that’s why they “sympathise” with his character and find his character more likeable.

i give him praise for being courageous and brave to stand up for justice, but i don’t agree with his actions and the methods he used to seek revenge and justice. “its easy for us to judge bcoz we were never in his shoe to understand what he went through,” yes true, but this doesn’t make him forgivable, simply because he was wrong.

runyu was actually very smart because he knew how to use people and turn them into his own chess pieces to plan out all the schemes that happened in the drama. just because everyone else were being unfair to him and his mother in the past, this doesn’t make him right for the chaos that he created. he was basically on the journey of becoming a mirror of his father: manipulative, greedy and devious.

you even said it yourself, “he tricked [jinmi] into saying i love u bcoz he thought, after what evil deeds are done by the emperor and empress against jin mi mom it will be difficult to carry on the engagement…..” this adds up selfishness to his already detestable personality… moreover, you said, “coming to the part where run yu started planning it was after he understood that if he needs to protect the one he love, he needs to be powerful ...he didnt took the throne just to enjoy but had a reason, is to change the tyrant rule and also he can be with jin mi without any hurdles …” well, another point for being called selfish because he used other people for his own happiness…

and no, I don’t think runyu had done all of that because he 110% loved jinmi. yes, he loved her, but not as much as xu feng imo. jinmi was more of a prize that runyu felt like he must have because she was the only one who did not see him differently in the beginning, which led to attraction. then, because of his resentment and insecurities, she became an obsession, an object that he must possess in order to feel like he is worth something. it just angered him more that the one who he has to fight against was xu feng, who was favoured by many people while he, runyu, was seen as nothing by the heavenly realm people in the past. he was literally consumed by his own resentment and hatred that he didn’t think of the consequences in bearing the throne. he treated the throne as if it was a toy —use it to have power and when he doesn’t have the power and respect anymore, he throws it away, back to xu feng.

when everything ended, runyu wrote an edict of repentance and then locked himself up thinking that it would be the end of him. He was basically suicidal because to him at that time, death was an escape. this is a good example of someone trying to run away from their responsibilities…that’s not very likeable imo especially when runyu have caused so much chaos between the six realms because he wanted happiness for himself. although his past actions were meant to seek for justice and to take revenge, we cannot ignore that he chose the wrong methods to do all of that and ended up ruining himself.

“as for xe feng never wanting the throne, the one who already had everything and everyone, as long as he can do and wish as he desires what else does he needs??” ...this is a misjudgement imo. even though in the past, xu feng was the favoured prince, he did however work hard for his own achievements. tbvh, runyu could’ve done the same, but he decided to hide himself in the dark and just be stuck in his lonely shell. he missed his chance, who could he have blamed?

whether it’s god or a human, everyone and everything has its own flaws. i agree that the “affair” between xu feng and jinmi was wrong, and like i’ve mentioned; xu feng and the fox immortal did exploited jinmi a lot while she stayed in the heavenly realm. tthis became one of her many flaws because she couldn’t control herself in that moment of time when they had the “mutual cultivation”. it sounds stupid, but for someone with a personality like jinmi and xufeng, when they’re in love it’s hard to turn back. this is why people say that we can be blindly in love whether it’s right or wrong. as viewers, we cannot expect them to be perfect and flawless either, likeable or unlikeable, this is actually how life is in rl, modern or ancient. you might not be the one experiencing it or has experienced it, but it doesn’t mean that someone from this world hasn’t experienced it. like you and me, we equally have flaws that maybe we can’t even identify ourselves. perhaps we have done something that seems unlikeable to other people too. same thing applies for jinmi and xu feng in this case.

i strongly disagree that “[jinmi] was no fool to be tricked by anyone.” she was manipulated by runyu many times before she spat out the yundan and learned better of her own feelings and herself as a person in general. what you witnessed throughout the drama (from being seen as innocent to looking as though she is not innocent anymore) was her journey of growth and maturity. some of her actions cannot be easily explained, but it’s all part of her journey. as the saying goes, people learn from mistakes and with that comes a process.

regarding, “but when he realized that his birth and his mother was nothing but a joke for the emperor and that tu yao can easily get away with everything, also he saw his own brother cant wait to sleep with his fiance what u think he should do is ???” —sounds unconvincing and rather simple, but runyu could’ve just ask to call off the engagement and move on, while the whole world can see jinmi and xu feng as the bad people…because they were in this case. but no, runyu didn’t do that. he took his anger and brought more innocent people into his schemes and plotted to kill xu feng. this is not self-respect and is in no way an honourable way in winning someone he claimed he loved. that’s straight out immoral vengeance.

runyu brought it upon himself to become a laughing stock, we cannot blame this entirely on jinmi or xufeng or anyone. again, he started the schemes and now it backfired. as for “he is the heavenly emperor his position is no joke,” well…he was already treating the throne as a joke because he didn’t want the throne for the throne, he wanted the throne because he wanted jinmi. so i don’t actually sympathise him on this one.

“it was also a matter of his self respect and pride ...what kind of impact will it have in all the realms ??” —if he did care about the realms in the first place, he wouldn’t have started the war. before the war even began, he even told his people that once they succeed in bringing jinmi over to him, then the heavenly realm people were to destroy everyone from the demon realm. self-respect and pride? i can’t see it…

sigh, my comment is too long again…haha, about the comment, you’re welcome :) i hope i don’t appear offensive. i wrote this comment in total calmness; just really enjoying this discussion haha. thanks for trying to give me a different side of the story + characters!

p.s. i'm hoping it's not intentional but it’s xu feng not xe feng… :')

might be a personal preference, but i found my story for you to be a good watch as well :) same as this drama, msfy is based on the author’s real story + his journey of success as an aauthor. he initially wrote the story for his wife and while penning the story, his wife was actually diagnosed with cancer. the story + the drama was sort of like hope for him. unfortunately his wife didn’t survive the cancer after the drama finished airing. if it makes you feel better tho, the drama has a happy ending and the wife did not die. since the drama is based on a real story, it’s realistic. i actually enjoyed msfy more than lfdc even tho in msfy there weren’t much kisses haha...well, there was actually none between the leads...unless you count a kiss on the forehead as a kiss, you know what i mean? :’)

i agree with the others that put your head on my shoulder is a must watch! it caters more to younger audiences so i think it’s an easy-enjoyable watch :)

it has been a while since i've last visited this page, and your comment was really interesting hahaha :')

first off, i partially agree and disagree with your pov. i think it's important to keep in mind when watching these dramas is that the story is set in an acient period, therefore we cant really judge the plot or characters from a modern perspective...which i am seeing a lot in the comment section.

before i add my own pov, i just want to touch up some things: the novel is amazing and honestly, runyu's character is nowhere near the one portrayed in the drama (at least not much sympathy is needed). there was actually a lot of backlash when the drama first aired because the director made a lot of changes for runyu's character...even stealing some of xu feng's dialogue from the novel —so in the end xu feng actually had less screentime even though he was the lead (there was actually a fan war on social media between deng lun's and leo's fanclubs). the director was just too immersed in developing runyu's character, in fact giving his character more depth and detail than xu feng; which is very frustrating lmao. i still personally don't think his tragic past justify his wrongful actions —from making the water immortal believe that he and jinmi were in love which then eventually led to the engagment and then starting the war which affected the six realms. (i'm not going to lie, perhaps i was already a little biased before i had started the drama because i really loved xu feng's character in the novel, so this could affect my pov in contrast to your pov) :')

i sort of diagree that xu feng does not care about his brother. in a way, he does, but he doesn't show it. the character's real form is symbolic of the way they behave...at least in chinese mythology. xu feng is a phoenix, we can't blame him for acting self-centred and arrogant (and even selfish most of the time) —this is his nature as a phoenix and the prestige that have been printed on him since birth; and obviously from the way he was raised as a prince, moreover, the favoured one. it would make sense to think that he cannot relate to runyu or even sympathise or reach out to help him from tu yao's bullying because he simply couldn't psychologically connect himself with runyu's resentment. and their status were also different despite being brothers so it would actually be inappropriate for him to take actions against his mother to just protect a brother that was birthed by another woman from the dragon fish tribe (we can say, xu feng was in a way protecting runyu's pride as well. why would anyone want their younger brother to protect them? it's embarrassing, especially in ancient times). keep in mind here that xu feng is part of the bird tribe. for him to not do anything by staying silent was actually already helping runyu; if runyu were to have more attention then that would anger tu yao even more. as explained in ep 62, xu feng never had the intentions to go against runyu. we can say that prior to all the events that happened, xu feng only viewed runyu as another exisiting person from the heaven realm, someone he didn't love nor hate. this is normal behaviour for siblings birthed by different mothers, legitimate or illegitmate.

as to why xu feng was willing to go against his mother to protect jimni, while he couldn't do the same to runyu...the answer is also pretty simple. again, it's all about status and how each of their relationship link to each other. runyu is a dragon with years of cultivation; he was more than capable to protect himself (at least now that he is an adult...). as for jinmi, she has served by xu feng's side as his attendant so he knew clearly of her power level —she could never win against someone as strong as his mother. it has something to do with gender roles too. jinmi is a girl, so society see her as weak compared to runyu who is a man. so was xu feng being unfilial? yes and no. i'm no expert in chinese literature, but there is a saying, something along the line of a son must pay his parent's debt which basically means that whatever wrongs done by the parent, their child would be the one bearing the consequence for them. xu feng did exactly this for his mother.

i loved reading all the responses to your comment haha because it shows that the characters are not perfect and i like that because we can't be perfect in rl. it's interesting the way the characters were built. tai wei and runyu are dragons, while tu yao and xu feng are phoenixes. if we compared them as a pair, they share similar traits and personality. except, they all having different endings because of the way they were raised, plus how the events that happened affected them and their actions, which came with a little bit of greed and hatred. the one who had more greed turned out to be bad, while the one with less greed ended up being good.

it's been a while, but i think i've mentioned in another comment that for the writers to show runyu's past was not to ask for sympathy from the audience. but rather, it is to let the audience understand why he became who he became. yes, his childhood was awful and even after growing up, it was still awful. but this doesn't mean that all the wrongs that he has done could be ignored.

i disagree that xu feng should've backed out from the relationship. again, gender roles and social hierarchy. as a man, especially for a prince who was raised up with an i-know-what-i-want personality, he couldn't because that would hurt his dignity (it's the same for runyu, that's why none of them gave up). and of course, we wouldn't have any drama to watch if xu feng was to simply back out...

hmmm i see a lot of people disliking jin mi's character and saying she's the problem in this story. well, yes, it's true. without her, there wouldn't be a story to tell haha. but i disagree that she is problematic as a person. we must remember that she spent most of her life in the flower realm with little contact to the outside world. most of the stuff that she learnt were from books, but none of that could beat experiencing it herself. and that was exactly what we witnessed. she was new to the outside world which was why she appeared to have "no brains" in most of the events that occured and what we witnessed throughout the drama was her growing maturity. as for her engagment with runyu, i sort of agree that she was being ignorant towards runyu and his feelings. but we can't fully blame her because in ancient times, a daughter's marriage was to be decided by her father and jinmi was simply following this rule and guidance. keep in mind that she was also enjoying her dad's company, and this experience was new to her so she was still trying to adapt to this by trustng her father and the engagment that was organised by her seniors. of course, the yundan also comes in act because she couldn't feel any romance (whether it's with xufeng or runyu), so her feelings were quite neutral in this whole engagment thing.

i have to say though, jinmi was exploited by xu feng and the fox immortal a lot. the affair between her and xu feng wouldn't have happened if she wasn't exploited, thus leading her to become ignorant about some things. with that, it was also because her yundan was broken, which gave it gaps for her to feel a little bit of romance, but very confusing romance.

tbh, i don't think jinmi made runyu feel hopeful, but it was rather runyu who was pushing her to make him feel more hopeful. he knew about the yundan and took advantage of that and manipulated her decisions. in regards to bibi-bobo's comment, the love that jinmi was supposed to not feel was romantic love. this has nothing to do with family love, friendship love and so forth which explains why her actions and emotions can be so confusing and bizarre. this is why she was able to be desperate in reviving her friend, on the other hand, she could also be heartless in killing xu feng.

runyu was innocent, but he wasn't so innocent anymore after he began all the schemes in winning jinmi and the throne. on the other hand, xu feng never once plan to scheme against runyu. this was their differences and why xu feng had a happy ending, while runyu didn't (ep62 explained this very clearly and brought a lot of closure for the brothers). xu feng just wanted to live his own life with jinmi, no need for the throne, no need for status, no need for war. it was runyu who started it all. yes, it is true that what happened between xu feng and jinmi triggered runyu's actions, but he had the choice to not do any of those bad schemes. in fact, he added more oil to the fuel when he healed the broken yundan (so we can't blame xu feng for being selfish, because runyu was being selfish here too). when a person decide to walk on the wrong path and start to do evil deeds, they can only expect to recieve karma. xu feng... he already received his own karma after being betrayed by jinmi and being killed by her. this was all part of the "love trial" as well. we wouldn't have a story if none that this had happened haha.

...my comment is getting too long lmao so i should end it here :p