Lost You Forever

长相思 第一季 ‧ Drama ‧ 2023
Svetlanchik89:

Thank you for sharing :-)

I haven't read it. Do you have any thoughts on the analysis?

HeadInTheClouds:
Svetlanchik89:

Мне случайно попался анализ поведения лисы, написанный китаянкой.

https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/667621183

https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/667674609

https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/667587320

https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/667596858

Спасибо, что поделились :-)

Я его не читал. У вас есть какие-нибудь соображения по поводу анализа?

Too many thoughts

You can't tell it briefly

Here is a very interesting interpretation of FangFeng Bei's phrases.

https://www.douban.com/group/topic/292827429/?_i=8086324EOUJaxC

This is one of the phrases

还真是不怕死啊。”小夭心想,这人长得像九头妖,却怎么说话的口气也跟有九条命似的,不怕死

“那要看死在谁手里。”

【翻译:这世上于我而言,值得舍命之事并不多,唯有辰荣与你。我相柳此生九命一心,心已经给了你,命你打算要几条?所谓死得其所,战死沙场是我的命,护你周全是我的愿,为此,虽百死而不悔】

Kokuto:
HeadInTheClouds:
Kokuto:

OMG. We finally got a comment history function! And other things too.

For anybody looking for it: Your avatar -> Profile -> More -> comments

I got excited, and then realised that it's only for the comments on the general boards. Pooh! Better than nothing.

Will they do something for the forum posts? All do we need to wait another 89 years???

Wait, WUt??? Nooo!!! I thought they were all grouped together under comments. sigh. They even have Likes histories, but nothing for the forums?

Kokuto:
AH:

So nice to be able to find old all those old comments (and likes!) so easily now - even comments from nine years ago!

Yes! I'm glad it is retroactive, and it does cover many different types of comments ... just not the forum ones.

AH:
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So nice to be able to find old all those old comments (and likes!) so easily now - even comments from nine years ago!

Yes! I'm glad it is retroactive, and it does cover many different types of comments ... just not the forum ones.

I'm thinking it might be a good thing in some ways. Those other types of comments have the option to hide the whole comment under a spoiler cover, and then the corresponding comment shows up in the new comments page on user profiles with a "spoiler" tag. Discussion forum posts have a different way to cover specific text for spoilers that maybe they can't easily translate in the same way.

I'm guessing there are probably other practical issues, like not being able to support all the extra functionality that forum comments have (formatted text, quotes, embedded images, etc.).

Plus the way discussion forums tend to work on MDL, they're treated as a bit more private compared to other spaces (like the main comment section of a drama or the feeds), so it's more acceptable to "go off" and really say how you feel / vent without being as careful about your words for the sake of being a polite community member. Maybe users wouldn't make that distinction in the same way if all of a user's forum comments were archived and easy to access (practically put on display) through their profile?

I take it all back!!!

I wish it wasn't so hard to search for old comments in these discussion threads! I've been trying to find the comments about the story of Boya and Ziqi and the meaning / origin of 知音 for ages and the number of pages that aren't indexed + the lack of a proper search function makes it all but impossible.

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AH :
I wish it wasn't so hard to search for old comments in these discussion threads! I've been trying to find the comments about the story of Boya and Ziqi and the meaning / origin of 知音 for ages and the number of pages that aren't indexed + the lack of a proper search function makes it all but impossible.

Is this what you are looking for?

https://kisskh.at/44985-lost-you-forever/discussions/110123-xl-and-xy-story-and-romance-warning-spoilers?pid=2939261&page=453#p2939261

And yes. I too am disappointed with the comment history, as it isn't searchable, but it's better than what we had.

Kokuto:
AH:

I wish it wasn't so hard to search for old comments in these discussion threads! I've been trying to find the comments about the story of Boya and Ziqi and the meaning / origin of 知音 for ages and the number of pages that aren't indexed + the lack of a proper search function makes it all but impossible.

Is this what you are looking for?

https://kisskh.at/44985-lost-you-forever/discussions/110123-xl-and-xy-story-and-romance-warning-spoilers?pid=2939261&page=453#p2939261

And yes. I too am disappointed with the comment history, as it isn't searchable, but it's better than what we had.

Kokuto!! That's the one! Thank you so much! <33

AH :
Kokuto!! That's the one! Thank you so much! <33

Happy to help. :)

Turns out, Google search the website seems to still be the best way to find anything in this discussion topic.

Would this mark today as the 2nd anniversary? ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

HeadInTheClouds:

Has it really been one year since Season 2 ended? How time flies. To commemorate one year since  Xiang Liu's passing. Tencent released a new, nice and bloody picture. Happy anniversary to all my fellow XL lovers here. 

SnowcupArc:

Would this mark today as the 2nd anniversary? ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

HeadInTheClouds:

Has it really been one year since Season 2 ended? How time flies. To commemorate one year since  Xiang Liu's passing. Tencent released a new, nice and bloody picture. Happy anniversary to all my fellow XL lovers here. 

Yes 22nd July. I am surprised there are so many XL clips being posted still.

Joa:

Yes 22nd July. I am surprised there are so many XL clips being posted still.

Thanks for confirming the commemoration date and sharing LYF's 3rd anniversary clips on the main board. So stunning and great to see the whole gang! Amazing anniversary gift!

SnowcupArc:

Thanks for confirming the commemoration date and sharing LYF's 3rd anniversary clips on the main board. So stunning and great to see the whole gang! Amazing anniversary gift!

I can't believe it's been another year. I'm trying to get back to my annotation thread, but I have definitely bitten off more than I thought. There is SO much. Of course, I may be reading alot more than I should into it. lol

For example, I realized that when XY first stumbled on beggar Jing at the river, she was trying to bag a bird that flew into the brush he was lying in. But on the rewatch, I realized there were TWO birds, and they looked like white herons / egrets. When she throws the rock, they fly off. But in the book (Koala's translation), it doesn't happen quite that way, but she's watching swans at the river. So, now I'm trying to find out the birds symbolize in Chinese folklore ... and thinking about finding the Chinese text to see if they were swans or herons or something else.

It's a sickness. LOL

Joa:
Yes 22nd July. I am surprised there are so many XL clips being posted still.

I'm not. Xiang Liu and Fang Feng Bei made such an impression and then stabbed us in the heart. Unforgettable.

Happy 3rd anniversary, everyone!

3 years since the drama first brought in a new wave of fans and introduced one of the most memorable characters ever to the world. 2 years since the curtains fell though the novel and its characters live on in our hearts. And almost 3 years since I first posted in this thread, asking if anyone had a comparison between the original and revised versions. How time has flown!

Kokuto:

I can't believe it's been another year. I'm trying to get back to my annotation thread, but I have definitely bitten off more than I thought. There is SO much. Of course, I may be reading alot more than I should into it. lol

Wait! You started an annotation thread for LYF? Where? I am clearly out of date... haven't posted on this thread for so long though I still sneak peeks every now and again. Please share the link so that I can read too!

Kokuto:

For example, I realized that when XY first stumbled on beggar Jing at the river, she was trying to bag a bird that flew into the brush he was lying in. But on the rewatch, I realized there were TWO birds, and they looked like white herons / egrets. When she throws the rock, they fly off. But in the book (Koala's translation), it doesn't happen quite that way, but she's watching swans at the river. So, now I'm trying to find out the birds symbolize in Chinese folklore ... and thinking about finding the Chinese text to see if they were swans or herons or something else.

The novel refers to the birds simply as 水鸟 water birds that rose and dipped in flight. No species or quantity specified.

I have been working through the 2013 vs 2019 comparisons since last year... but had to take a breather due to real life demands. Interestingly enough, Xiang Liu's lines have mostly remained intact between the two versions... which to me, implies that Tong Hua's vision of him never wavered from the one she grieved for after seeing snow on a sunny day back in 2012:

从超市出来,风很大,阳光很灿烂。透过车窗,看到蓝天很蓝,白云很白,想起了九命 (偶故事中的人物)一袭白衣,九曲红尘,本该是何等逍遥的妖,却因责任困住了自己。总喜欢用雪去形容他,想着正伤感,突然下雪了,雪花打在车窗上。我惊愕!明明阳光还十分灿烂,老公说,太阳雪!很少见!

Coming out from the supermarket, the wind was strong and the sun was bright. Through the car window, I saw that the blue skies were really blue and the white clouds were really white. I thought of Nine Lives (a character in a story), all dressed in white, living nine lives in the mortal realm, a demon who should have been so unfettered and free but instead trapped himself with responsibility. I always love to use the snow to describe him. Just as I was feeling sad, it suddenly started snowing, and the snowflakes hit against the car window. I was shocked! The sun was clearly still shining brightly. My husband said, "Sunny and snowing! It's a rare occurrence!"

-- 桐华tonghua @ Weibo, 26 Feb 2012

(Hm... looks like the thread no longer allows us to indent?)

It is amazing how I still find myself seeing echoes of Xiang Liu or Xiao Yao in different dramas. Has anyone watched 雀骨 Key to the Phoenix Heart, which has unexpectedly ranked as one of my favourites for many reasons. Xiao Wuyi reminds me a lot of Xiang Liu in terms of how he always put himself front and center in any battle, fiercely protecting everything and everyone he loves - his provision for Xie Jiayu, knowing that he goes to certain death. Even the lines that were used to describe him echoed Xiang Liu so much - giving his all for everyone else and leaving nothing for himself, wanting her to live well after his death. How I wish Xiao Yao was more like Xie Jiayu, unafraid to love, and determined to destroy any noble idiocy tendencies in the man she loved, joining him despite his best efforts to keep her safe. Then, I remember that unlike Xie Jiayu, Xiao Yao was never given any indication that he loved her, and was rebuffed at every turn. And my heart hurts anew for what could have been. But to be fair, if LYF had ended in any other way, it would not have seared our hearts so much, even after so many years.

liddi:

Wait! You started an annotation thread for LYF? Where? I am clearly out of date... haven't posted on this thread for so long though I still sneak peeks every now and again. Please share the link so that I can read too!

Hi liddi! So good to see you again. I definitely understand about real life interfering. :) Hope you and your family have been well.

I only got one episode last year. lol It's a work in progress, but you can see the scope of what I'd like to do. Sort of organize and reference stuff we've talked about, plus really really really paying attention the drama and discovering things.

https://kisskh.at/44985-lost-you-forever/discussions/143580-2nd-anniversary-rewatch-of-lyf-2025-annotated

Folks are welcome to participate with their insights and I'll try to link their posts up to whatever section I've tried to organize them into.

liddi:

The novel refers to the birds simply as 水鸟 water birds that rose and dipped in flight. No species or quantity specified.

Ah, cool! Thank you so much! Exactly what I was going to go hunting for.

Kokuto:
I only got one episode last year. lol It's a work in progress, but you can see the scope of what I'd like to do. Sort of organize and reference stuff we've talked about, plus really really really paying attention the drama and discovering things.

Wow! Thank you for sharing your detailed analysis of Ep1, and the inclusion of points that have been discussed in the past. It is great to see all the insights and analysis distilled and compiled into a single thread. You have taken on a mammoth task indeed, but it is definitely a blessing to all of us who love the novel, the characters and the drama. It's like rewatching the drama all over again, but through your eyes.

Incidentally, it appears Xiang Liu's thread (Xiang Liu's Luxury Lounge) in LYF S2 page no longer exists? As such, the novel to LYF to A Lifetime Love mapping is also gone. Come to think of it, is it my imagination or we can only see 6 discussion threads for each drama page? Does it mean the remaining discussion threads have been deleted? Argh... all the ramblings! In any case, here's a copy of the mapping if what was previously posted is gone for good:

Kingdoms, Territories, Clans

Novel (2011 edition)

Novel (2019 edition)

Lost You Forever

A Lifetime Love

轩辕

Xuan Yuan

轩辕

Xuan Yuan

西炎

Xi Yan

宣阳

Xuan Yang

神农

Shen Nong

神农

Shen Nong

辰荣

Chen Rong

玄牧

Xuan Mu

高辛

Gao Xin

高辛

Gao Xin

皓翎

Hao Ling

凌云

Ling Yun

九黎

Jiu Li

百黎

Bai Li

百黎

Bai Li

若疆/不归谷

Ruo Jiang / Valley of No Return

玉山

Jade Mountain

玉山

Jade Mountain

玉山

Jade Mountain

玉山

Jade Mountain

泽州

Ze Province

泽州

Ze Province

泽州

Ze Province

菏州

He Province

赤水

Chi Shui

赤水

Chi Shui

赤水

Chi Shui

釜源

Fu Yuan

阪泉

Ban Quan

阪泉

Ban Quan

潼岭关

Tong Ling Pass

潼耳关

Tong'er Pass

冀州

Ji Province

冀州

Ji Province

冀州

Ji Province

天水山

Tian Shui Mountain

若水族

Ruo Shui Clan

若水族

Ruo Shui Clan

若水族

Ruo Shui Clan

涉河族

She He Clan

Names - Novels vs Drama

Novel (2011 edition)

Novel (2019 edition)

Lost You Forever

A Lifetime Love

蚩尤

Chi You

赤宸

Chi Chen

赤宸

Chi Chen

赤云

Chi Yun

西陵珩/轩辕妭

Xiling Heng / Xuanyuan Ba

西陵珩/轩辕妭

Xiling Heng / Xuanyuan Ba

西陵珩

Xiling Heng

木青寞/宣阳婼

Muqing Mo / Xuanyang Ruo

高辛少昊

Gaoxin Shao Hao

高辛少昊

Gaoxin Shao Hao

皓翎少昊

Haoling Shao Hao

凌云晟仑

Lingyun Sheng Lun

云桑

Yun Sang

云桑

Yun Sang

云桑

Yun Sang

青阳

Qing Yang

青阳

Qing Yang

青阳

Qing Yang

昱辰

Yu Chen

昌意

Chang Yi

仲意

Zhong Yi

仲意

Zhong Yi

知若

Zhi Ruo

蜀山昌仆

Shushan Chang Pu

濁山昌仆

Zhuoshan Chang Pu

濁山昌仆

Zhuoshan Chang Pu

亦篱

Yi Li

诺奈/雨师

Nuo Nai / Yu Shi (Master of Rain)

诺奈/雨师

Nuo Nai / Yu Shi (Master of Rain)

景时/雨尘

Jing Shi / Yu Chen

黄帝

Yellow Emperor

轩辕王

Xuan Yuan king

西炎王

Xi Yan king

宣阳王

Xuan Yang king

嫘祖

Lei Zu

缬祖

Xie Zu

缬祖

Xie Zu

木青廖若

Muqing Liao Ruo

炎帝

Flame Emperor

神农王

Shen Nong king

辰荣王

Chen Rong king

玄牧王

Xuan Mu king

俊帝

Eminent Emperor

高辛王

Gao Xin king

皓翎王

Hao Ling king

凌云王

Ling Yun king

炎帝榆罔

Flame Emperor Yu Wang

榆襄

Yu Xiang

浩许

Hao Xu

祝融

Zhu Rong

炎灷

Yan Zhuan

炎灷

Yan Zhuan

童峥

Tong Zheng

共工

Gong Gong

洪江

Hong Jiang

洪江

Hong Jiang

兴汒

Xing Mang

后土

Hou Tu

珞迦

Luo Jia

坤卜

Kun Pu

茱萸

Zhu Yu

茱萸

Zhu Yu

茱萸

Zhu Yu

紫株

Zi Zhu

王母

Royal Mother

王母

Royal Mother

王母

Royal Mother

玉夫人

Madam Jade

彤鱼氏

Madam Tongyu

彤鱼氏

Madam Tongyu

蝉雷氏

Madam Chanlei

夷彭

Yi Peng

夷澎

Yi Peng

佶夷

Ji Yi

高辛宴龙

Gaoxin Yan Long

高辛宴龙

Gaoxin Yan Long

凌云地音

Lingyun Di Yin

高辛中容

Gaoxin Zhong Rong

高辛中容

Gaoxin Zhong Rong

凌云函宴

Lingyun Han Yan

小夭

Xiao Yao

小夭

Xiao Yao

小夭

Xiao Yao

诺夙

Nuo Su

颛顼

Zhuan Xu

玱玹

Cang Xuan

玱玹

Cang Xuan

落尧

Luo Yao

沐槿

Mu Jin

沐槿

Mu Jin

嫦曦

Chang Xi

泣女/冰月

Qi Nü / Bing Yue

泣女/冰月

Qi Nü / Bing Yue

泣女/渊寒

Qi Nü / Yuan Han

风伯

Feng Bo (Earl of Wind)

风伯

Feng Bo (Earl of Wind)

夜风

Ye Feng

应龙

Ying Long

应龙

Ying Long

应龙

Ying Long

海雄

Hai Xiong

知末

Zhi Mo

知末

Zhi Mo

岸华

An Hua

象罔

Xiang Wang

象林

Xiang Lin

敕墨

Chi Mo

离朱

Li Zhu

尹朱

Yin Zhu

琛方

Chen Fang

岳渊

Yue Yuan

岳渊

Yue Yuan

夜殊

Ye Shu

安容

An Rong

安容

An Rong

蔡仲

Cai Zhong

安晋

An Jin

安晋

An Jin

蔡陵

Cai Ling

高辛季厘

Gaoxin Ji Li

高辛季厘

Gaoxin Ji Li

凌云渐幽

Lingyun Jian You

云泽

Yun Ze

云泽

Yun Ze

长周

Chang Zhou

轩辕休

Xuanyuan Xiu

轩辕休

Xuanyuan Xiu

宣阳休

Xuanyang Xiu

轩辕挥

Xuanyuan Hui

轩辕挥

Xuanyuan Hui

宣阳辉

Xuanyang Hui

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