4Minutes (Sultrier Version)

So amazing, but the last episodes were weak

This show is definitely worth watching. I loved the plot that just kept you on your toes, and the amount of theories I created was not healthy. I just felt like the last two/three episodes were in stark contrast to the rest of the show and much weaker.

Positives:
- Bible's acting! He was once again just convincing, natural, and just truly a great actor
- The plot. The writing of the plot progression was super interesting, how they kept dropping hints and kept us guessing. The characters were also super interesting, especially how they were morally grey, flawed, and complex.
- The NC scenes. Even though I wasn't the biggest fan of the pairings in this, they're chemistry wasn't AMAZING (but that wasn't the point of the show at all so it's fine), all the NC scenes were full of chemistry, incredibly nuanced, natural, and well-used as storytelling devices. Probably my favourite NC scenes ever.

Negatives:
- The last two/three episodes. The dialogue felt off/forced. The acting suddenly felt unnatural. They tried to wrap up/explain the previous plot in a way that made it feel silly, that dissolved all this great tension they'd previously built in an insignificant way. Truly am a bit disappointed.

All in all, still an amazing series. Maybe not that much rewatch value since it lives off the plottwist. Truly could've been a 10 star if they'd kept up the theme with the last episodes.

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I really wanted to love this show...

From the first 5 episodes of this show I was HOOKED! The acting was great, there was a mystery element, and also crime. I was very invested in the characters and their relationships, and wanted to see how they progressed. The villains of this show were also great. Like I genuinely hated them. Not to mention that the cinematography is great. The show is just really visually pleasing and has a great vibe.

Then all of my interest started to turn into confusion at episode 6. The whole what-if 4 minutes thing started to kick in and I was really confused. When I figured out what was going on I was like "okay, I think I get it," but then each episode just got more confusing. They got you hooked in with the first 5 episodes just to reveal that none of that actually happened, and that the reality is much more disappointing. Like the whole 4 minutes idea was interesting, but I don't think it was executed very well.

Maybe this is a show that'll hit different on the second watch, but the first watch just left me kind of confused and disappointed. I'll probably rewatch this at some point because I do like the actors and the overall vibe, and want to give it a second chance.

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Interesting...

((MAJOR SPOILERS))


First things first I want to applaud this show for being probably one of the few that actually has me hooked till the end in these past months I’ve watched BL, it wasn’t that hard to finish, I think the fact that it has 8 episodes which is a perfect amount plays a part too, because god… 12 episodes is so much and a lot of shows have that amount so they really stretch out the story to the point it gets boring midway. But this show had me hooked, I think the way they made each episode flow was very helpful too. They made sure to confuse the fuck out of everyone in each episode enough to make you wanna continue to the next so your questions can be answered, and trust me if you’ve watched till the last episode, all of your questions will be answered. So there really is no reason why people should be confused. But if you still are, I’m going to explain what this story was about in my words. If there’s anything I misinterpreted or missed then I’ll take the blame lol. But so far what I got was in the first couple of episodes it shows Great and his experiences, at first it shows him living that 4 minutes life, but in reality he’s really in the hospital having a near death experience, then between the middle it shows more info about other characters and then it shows the reality of Great, so basically what Great actually experienced, where he actually runs over the girl and all that. Towards the end it shows Tyme and his near death experience, and he was also experiencing the same thing as Great in the sense of the 4 minutes and such. Then at the end they recover and live happily. So what is there to unpack here? This whole show was based on 2 people who were experiencing a near death experience, and once you’re dying I guess you just relive what you’ve experienced, any guilt or regret you have will transform into the opposite in your brain, that’s why Great could see 4 minutes into the future and basically fix his mistakes, and that’s why Tyme had a whole different life with Great during his 4 minute experience, he had a good relationship with Great and they were dating. But in their actual reality, Tyme didn’t have the best relationship with Great and he treated him pretty badly, so when Great got shot, that guilt stayed with him. And Great regretted running over the girl, and also “helping” or not doing anything to stop Title from killing Dome and more interactions or decisions. So this whole near death experience was a way for the brain and body to cope with the regrets of life and they kind of created their own reality that’s why both Great and Tyme have a whole different view/perspective on how they met and the experiences they had together, but the reality isn’t even close to what they both created. Thankfully both survived and lived to what seems to be happy (YAY), everything seemed to be resolved. Sadly Dome, Korn, and Tonkla passed away. Honestly, they all deserved better. And the fact that Korn killed himself after Tonkla died makes this an even more depressing love story between them. And poor Dome, he was so innocent and kind based on what we saw. He didn’t do anything. And the cop Win, idk I did ship Tonkla and Korn but I first saw Fuaiz (Tonkla) and JJay (Win/Cop) in DFF (Dead Friend Forever) and they were a couple there so this is what I was kind of hoping would happen here too. But I guess in either shows do they have a happy ending T-T. Poor JJay. But yeah this is pretty much it, I also have to applaud those NC scenes, omg… it was giving KinnPorsche. But nothing beats KinnPorsche. Anyway, the only things I would switch about this show is probably making it a little less confusing for the viewers, I like the fun in looking forward to the next episode but they really had me confused for a couple episodes until the end where I was like “OHHHH”. And I guess include a little more romance in it, I know this is a specific genre and the romance is there, but just a tiny bit more would make this show a little more enjoyable. But overall pretty good. In my opinion, this show is good to watch once, I probably will never rewatch, but to give it a try, I will for sure recommend.

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What a bizarre plot!!

what that ending was even!? all the characters were walking embodiment of toxicity, legit none of em was sane (NONE OF EM!!) none of em had a sane brain they all were either malfunctioning in their heads or dying or killing!! other than that cinematography and acting was good but the plot did no justice. this series will only be remembered for its NC and plot (for being too shitty). Like they had it all, they could have executed it so better than THIS!! and why did tonkla and bas executed the romeo & juliet arc, i bet they were not even that in love and what win was whining for!? bro fuckin signed for it. tbh i didnt see any chemistry between bible and jes, individually they are great actors, but together nononono!! white stole the show (my bro just wanted it raw lmao) and bas was so stupid doing everything without adding 2&2....

well you can watch it for nc's or if you want to watch smth other than usual fluff and want smth toxic and dark that makes you questing stuff, then go for it. for me its a 7.5/10.

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Very confusing ride to be on

This was a wild show from beginning to end. I spent so much of it being confused, but the cast does such a great job that I couldn't bring myself to stop watching. I believe it's around episode 5 that a lot of answers are given to make all the confusion from the first half of the show dissipate.

Despite how confused I was, I do think the first half of the drama was more entertaining than the last half. Once I understood what was happening, the magic I felt during those first few episodes was gone and I didn't quite love where the plot was going from that point on. So with that in mind, I don't know how much enjoyment I would get out of a rewatch knowing the answers to all the questions that I had. Because let's be honest, the questions I had were half the reason I was even engaged in the show at all. Without those questions, I don't know that it was hit quite as hard.

For a first time watch with out any spoilers, I think this one is pretty solid. I urge everyone to fight through the confusion to make it to the end.

Also. This had some VERY spicy scenes. I knew I was watching the sultrier version, and they weren't lying when they said sultrier. It's a 10/10 for spiciness for sure

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This was sooo good!

I really liked this drama, already watched twice to wrap my head truly around it. I like a good drama bl or not, and a bl that does to need all tropes to be successful. This was thought provoking about redemption and trying to get it right.
The actors were excellent in making the characters pull us in, great job. When you hurt for a character, even if they are flawed, you know they have done their job. This may not be for everyone, this is not the fluffy love story, you need to think. I would say the rewatch factor is high, not just for nc scenes, but the story.

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Confusing, but somewhat gripping

It was a really great watch - to begin with. And then in the gap from episode 5-6, it was like a whole different storyline was happening for no reason, and even when the reason was revealed later on I still didn't understand a thing. It's too hard to differentiate between the timelines, and I only binge watched this over 2 days, so if you leave gaps between the episodes, you'll come back to it like "ok, what the hell is going on now?". If they'd simplified the 4 minutes thing, it could have been a 9 or 10.
I really didn't grasp what the 4 minutes were, how they happened, why they happened - any of it (maybe I'm just dim?), which ruined it for me.

But the acting was amazing (the BRAVERY of them to do those things on camera, especially young Fuaiz... he's in the wrong job, if you get me...). Bas was a BL revelation - from bodyguard to boss.

(As a side note, when I saw JJay with facial hair on Insta, I thought "nah", but on tv and without makeup or anything he actually suits it better than most!)

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WARNING !! A dark, bloody, and violent BL series

What does a dying person think about?
SYNOPSIS: Great, the son of a wealthy family and a student, meets Tyme, a surgeon thirsting for revenge the death of his parents. Great has the ability to see four minutes into the future. It's love at first sight beetwen them, but Great's family's activities are shady, illegal, and violent (gambling, corruption, etc.). At the same time, Great's friend, Title, kills a guy (Dome, a classmate). Tonkla, Dome's brother, with zero faith in the police, wants to revenge his brother

+++ Fantastic actors. All are convincing and talented, but Bible and Jes delivered a breathtaking performance.
+++ Well-crafted direction (lighting, framing, sets, pacing), including the intimate scenes (which, in my opinion, are necessary given the drama's hyper-realistic tone).
+++ Excellent OSTs that enhance the atmosphere.

### The timeline is rather confusing (multiple flashbacks of scenes [with different versions], a weird mix of different time periods, etc.). Jes and Bible's solid performances keep us glued to the screen, but... it's a mess in the viewer's brain (＞﹏＜) until the final episode (some explanations, but many plot holes remain).
### Very explicit sex scenes (including some with a minor actor [What are thinking his parents about ?]) and extreme violence: not for all viewers!

=> WARNING!! Intriguing, mysterious, harsh, and violent series. Now I need something cheesy and fluffy :)
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A dark, bloody, and violent BL series

SYNOPSIS: Great, the son of a wealthy family and a student, meets Tyme, a surgeon thirsting for revenge the death of his parents. Great has the ability to see four minutes into the future. It's love at first sight beetwen them, but Great's family's activities are shady, illegal, and violent (gambling, corruption, etc.).At the same time, Great's friend, Title, kills a guy (Dome, a classmate). Tonkla, Dome's brother, with zero faith in the police, wants to revenge his brother

+++ Fantastic actors. All are convincing and talented, but Bible and Jes delivered a breathtaking performance.
+++ Réalisat° bien travaillée (lumières, cadrages, décors, rythme) y compris sur les scènes intimes (à mon avis, nécessaires vu le ton hyper réaliste du drama)
+++ Excellentes OSTs qui renforcent l'atmosphère

### La timeline est plutôt confuse (multiples flashbacks de scènes [avec des versions différentes], weird mix of différentes époques, etc.). La solide performance de Jes et Bible nous maintient devant l'écran, mais ... c'est le bazar dans le cerveau du spectateur (＞﹏＜) jusqu'à l'épisode final (qq explicat° mais il reste bcp de plot holes).
### Scènes de sexe très explicites (y compris avec 1 acteur mineur) et ultra violence : pas pour tous les viewers !

=> WARNING !! Série intrigante, mystérieuse, dure et violente.
Now I need something cheesy and fluffy :)

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huh?

This might be one of the most peculiar and disturbing compilation of ads
that I've ever had the dubious pleasure to click through on double speed
while praying that a triple speed option would magically appear on the video playback speed controller.
I mean, such an unabashed waste of talent, time, energy and money has to be illegal.

Standing ovation on the underage sex scenes. Well done, Entertainment Industry. Here's your cookie.

With all the money that was poured into this...cinematic creation, they surely could have put dozens of kids from underprivileged backgrounds through med school. Twice.

And now I'm just sitting here gnawing on my nails worried-sick Charlie Kaufman might actually faint from all the laughter and would have to get hospitalized if he ever happens to watch this. Or from all the crying. Maybe both.
What if he has enough unwasted bad karma and this actually happens?
What would the Wachowski sisters think? LMAO

Ryan Gosling once mentioned the "two for them one for yourself" rule..... My hopeful guess is - for the one whose nickname does not correlate all too well with this abomination of a storytelling, this has to be the one FOR THEM. Also, could these THEY finally leave the grannies alone, please pretty please? Haven't the grannies suffered enough? Just stop it already. Better yet, to paraphrase an old song: leave the grannies and the kids alone!! And the cats, ok?

Emm, let's see:
the Durex's money could have been gone as the intimacy choreographer's wage, naturally.
the Cat Food's and the Sunscreen's money combined - as the medical advisor's wage, deservedly.
(loooved how they thoroughly transcribed all the medical terms. very important! educational! please forgive my sarcasm)
But then something must have gone TERRIBLY WRONG in the writers' room.
Because, surely, they only had money left for the cheap counterfeit vodka for a fuel, and the deadline was yesterday. Oh boy, that must have been tough: counterfeit vodka can make one do\write things, looking back one might not be so proud of.....

Ok then, sounds pretty plausible to me.
Or at least just as plausible as all the nappy marrow that went down within these longest ever 4 minutes.
Hopefully I might be able to unsee it with a heavy dose of baby elephants vids.
Fingers crossed.

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when you are not judging this before Onlywatching it, you will love it.

This is one of the bls that will make you change your view as stereotypes of the bls

Guyss!!!
If you are thinking of should or shouldn't watching it, here's the checklist.
1. You. Are. Not. New. To bl.
2. You are not looking for fluff sweet bl.
3. You actually want a complex plot. Unlike any you seen before. And the most important,
4. You were told this series is soo NCed and that's why you were hesitating yet.

Because only when you are not judging this before watching it you will love it.

This is as I said before a very well filmed, true to its plot, complexity is the key. It's fine if you didn't understand it before. You will probably have to re-watch the last 4 eps to actually grasp the COMPLEXITY of the plot. Well I had to.

The story is nothing like I have seen ever. And I have seen thinks okay..so I'm not some newbie. Now I am going to watch similar themed bls. This is one of the bls that will make you change your view as stereotypes of the bls

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BeOnCloud has blessed me once again

I loved this show!
The acting was amazing, and they had the storyline to match it.
I will say that the addition of a "Why Don't You Stay" remix broke my heart

Fuaiz did an amazing job as Tonkla, he caught my eye the most. I typically avoid NC scenes, and even without them, his relationships between Korn and Win showed so much about him as a character.

I love a show that keeps me confused and guessing the whole time, which is why I'm a big fan of BeOnCloud's series. 4MINTUES definitely didn't disappoint on that front. I understand why people didn't like how confusing the plot was, but that was kinda the point of the show. This is coming from someone who craves dark, confusing, and angsty plots, so if those aren't things you like you should probably ignore my review lol

Amazing show, I will continue to watch it again and again!

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