Xiang Liu and Xiao Yao’s Story and Romance

 liddi:

In the scene when Xiao Yao wanted to kiss Jing outside Dragon Bone prison after refusing to kiss Xiang Liu earlier, the script (and the BTS) states clearly that Xiao Yao wanted to kiss him because she felt pity for him and his inferiority complex:

Exactly.  So, if XL is a 'friend' than Jing is pity ... 'love'.

 liddi:

Based on the leaked script, she conveniently never found out the name and true nature of the Lovers bug. What Jing only knew was that if one was injured, the other would be too, so hoped that when the time came, Cang Xuan would stay his hand against Xiang Liu so that Xiao Yao would not be killed too.

Need the sepuku gif, ASAP.

Insert profanities.

Calling Donkey Meat Seller, STAT!!!  Get thee to Haolin and enlighten the purposefully ignorant.

 liddi:

The leaked script has Jing realising how selfish the 15-year promise he exacted from Xiao Yao was, because he forced her to choose him. So when he got Xiang Liu to stop the wedding, he was supposedly giving Xiao Yao the chance to choose again.

I'm pretty sure he also admits to her in another scene that he knows he isn't good enough and FFB is better for her, but he's just sooooo needy, he can't let her go.

SMH

Insert JUDGING gif.

 liddi:

TSJ: Many years ago, because I wanted wholeheartedly to be with Xiao Liu, I took advantage of her kindness, and never gave her a chance to choose between me and Xiang Liu. However, in the end, I could not give her happiness. Now... I give the chance to choose back to her. This is what I owe her.

-- Ep7 (S02E15) scene 12

This train of thought makes no sense. He wanted Xiao Yao to be able to choose again by disrupting her wedding. But how does Xiang Liu taking her away from her wedding allow her to choose? What choice is he offering? He himself was already a married man.

OMG.  There's some first class Jing 'logic' for you.   This guy ... why does the man who got trapped into marrying FFYY get to make decisions for XY???  WHY???  Why didn't someone tell me this is a sign of true love?!

It just gets better and better, doesn't it?  And by better, I mean, somebody hit me with a shovel and bury me alive to put me out my misery.  At least then, I have a chance to encounter Duke Su.

 liddi:

Will try and see if I manage to analyse the S1 script sometime. And yes, keeping everything I can cross, crossed that S2 will not be a trainwreck. Though, for me, seeing Xiang Liu again is worth the price of admission alone...

At your convenience and desire, of course, liddi.  We'll have plenty to talk (scream) about when the show starts airing.

Yes, indeed.  That's my take on it too.  Whatever scraps I get of XL and getting to return to the world with the music and cinematography, will be worth it for me.  As for the rest... at least I have all of you to scream in agony with.  lol

 liddi:

The leaked script has Jing realising how selfish the 15-year promise he exacted from Xiao Yao was, because he forced her to choose him. So when he got Xiang Liu to stop the wedding, he was supposedly giving Xiao Yao the chance to choose again.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

OMG! The industrial bleach comes into use again. They are really trying to whitewash Jing into some nice, selfless dude. LOL!

 Kokuto:

I'm pretty sure he also admits to her in another scene that he knows he isn't good enough and FFB is better for her, but he's just sooooo needy, he can't let her go.

Yeah! I think it was the scene after the 37 years. He also told her in that scene that he was willing to be her slave. Much dignity. Such a healthy relationship dynamic *sarcasm*. Here is a word to describe Jing:

 Kokuto:

It just gets better and better, doesn't it? And by better, I mean, somebody hit me with a shovel and bury me alive to put me out my misery. At least then, I have a chance to encounter Duke Su.

Us YaoLiu's fans . No, wait, I'm a XL's fan only. Anyhoo! We are losing our shit in the funniest way. 

 liddi:

I feel that they were afraid to allow Cang Xuan to go over to the dark side as it were, and preferred to whitewash and redeem him. However, if they went down this route, there was no good reason for Xiao Yao to stay away in the end, which contradicts the way the story plays out.

The reasoning/motives in S2 all feel weak and not in line with the characterization of the main leads.

 liddi:

I am still hoping, hoping that someone fixed the script before it was filmed. Else it would be a very painful watch... knowing what we know.

we need to create a thread called "Post LYF S2 therapy" because I know I will be ranting.

 liddi:

This train of thought makes no sense. He wanted Xiao Yao to be able to choose again by disrupting her wedding. But how does Xiang Liu taking her away from her wedding allow her to choose? What choice is he offering? He himself was already a married man. And the irony of it all is that before the wedding, Xiao Yao had already made her choice known by sending the crystal globe to Xiang Liu, independent of any manipulation of events Jing came up with. Even though the way the script handled her creation of the crystal globe and 7-day wait was lacklustre at best, the point remained that at that moment, she reached out to Xiang Liu, asking him to take her away, and waited for him to come to her in vain.

 I feel like this just makes TSJ look worse than better. Should've just been faithful to what happened in the novel.

 Kokuto:

At your convenience and desire, of course, liddi.  We'll have plenty to talk (scream) about when the show starts airing.

I'll be losing my voice screaming. I am not looking forward to this trainwreck.

 HeadInTheClouds:

I think by downplaying the XaoLiu love and connection in the drama, they stripped away XY's complexity - her psychological struggles; trying to break away from her fears, but keep on getting dragged back. Which is typical for any change process.

I'm in the minority, but I find the CX/XY's relationship and bond to also be unhealthy. Their traumatic childhood bonded them and with them, it became an extreme/unhealthy dependency. It works in the fantastical world of LYF, but on a more objective basis, it's quite warped. I don't think there is a single healthy relationship in this novel. Traumatized people and their unhealthy relationship patterns

Totally agree. They pretty much stripped each of the character's complexities and layers, which is what makes the story fascinating. If we wanted a simple romance, we wouldn't be watching this show.

You're not in the minority, I don't think there are many YaoXuan fans out there (sad). TBH, XY has her issues and should not even be in a relationship with anyone because she has so many things to work through herself. Many ppl talk about the guys but she has her flaws as well. I would never support any of the relationships in this drama (in modern day life). However, it is ok in dramaland, watching things go down and go crazy haha. CX definitely poured all of his love onto XY and depended on her a lot after his parents died. And vice versa. The codependency is not healthy by any means. I just have a huge soft spot for them because they really cared for each other even before the traumatic events happened and in another world, they would be endgame.

Girls, I'm getting more and more upset if you watch this video, you can see the moment where Xiang Liu is sitting with wine in a shell 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FlUcZ0unV4

 Svetlanchik89:

Girls, I'm getting more and more upset if you watch this video, you can see the moment where Xiang Liu is sitting with wine in a shell 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FlUcZ0unV4

Oh, I missed that.  Did that occur in the book?  Is that where he will be looking at the crystal ball?

Awwwww.  Chubby is with him!

 Kokuto:

Oh, I missed that.  Did that occur in the book?  Is that where he will be looking at the crystal ball?

Awwwww.  Chubby is with him!

It was in the leaked script

 H19279:

He was gazing at the crystal ball by the river in Qing Shui town under drizzing rain in the novel

Yes, but I couldn't remember if they changed it in the leaked scripted.

 Kokuto:

Yes, but I couldn't remember if they changed it in the leaked scripted.

as i remember he was gazing at the globe while on boat to Chi Shui