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Kokuto:
Either way, I've reached out for clarification and will see what staff responds with because it's not as though I'm TRYING to make this any harder for them. I genuinely don't know if that qualifies and I've always included unsourced because I was told multiple times that ANYTHING unsourced is subject to deletion. Not sure if that doesn't apply to old pics or not but again, i asked for clarification on that because timing is not mentioned anywhere on the first page.
Could you give us a link to where it was stated repeatedly that ANYTHING unsourced is subject to deletion?
It was DMs with staff before. Also clearly staff know their own rules and wouldn’t be deleting unsourced pics if it weren’t okay. They also would’ve said this to me sooner. That’s also why I reached out for clarification
Staff is not automatically deleting any unsourced images that come our way. That was never the practice. Nor did I or any other staff member communicate it that way to anyone.
The unsourced material that gets automatically deleted without question is the material that was uploaded after the rules for galleries came into effect. However, older unsourced material is subject to deletion if they break any of the existing gallery rules and is clearly not part of any officially released promo material.
When going through galleries, staff try to add sources to images that are missing them, and we also want to encourage other users to adopt the same practice. An unsourced image will still continue to have a higher risk of being deleted as opposed to the image that does have an actual official source attached to it.
The gallery rules have now been completely updated, and all the old posts that were taken care of have been removed from this thread. The last few posts will also be deleted later when this message reaches you all.
Please go back to the first page, check out the new guidelines, and modify your remaining posts if needed.
Meehu:
@Kokuto Is it fun to have two accounts at the same time? I am not blind that I cannot see you are always there when I am replying to her. You have some kind of detector? Why you are not that active? Anyone can see-through. When I was speaking only to moderator. Means I want to bring something to their notice!
I never complain about other people or likes to fight so suit yourself! You won’t see me posting there again! Be happy!!
I couldn’t quote the long post but wanted to add an option here. The gallery (photos tab of each title) is for official pics only, but if you want to share other photos from fan accounts, etc. (anything that does not directly come from the studio/cast/production team), the discussions on each page are where to put those. They are decluttering to both make the site look cleaner, more on par with IMDb, and perhaps also ease up the image server. Screenshots are still abundant on the site, just in feed posts and discussion tabs, often compressed heavily which ideally the next version of the site won’t do for official pics, profile shots and posters since that is always a bit saddening (ahem, admins?🙏). If the drama is The Early Spring, the discussions tab is where to put anything unofficial or things like heat indexes that are not gallery suited (those should mainly be official sharp shots from studios, some behind the scenes official shots okay but when sourced from official accounts, especially given how many non-studio [fan] accounts get shut down/deleted on social media whereas studio pages generally stay up indefinitely): https://kisskh.at/761231-zao-chun-qing-lang/discussions
If you are wondering why I am in this thread suddenly for a show I am not even watching, it is simply because I subscribed to this thread to be able to find it easily as I work through trying to get sources for my own photos and get blurry ones out of the gallery (no matter how cool a scene is, particularly since most people on here seem to either watch on illegal low quality sites or their phones with lower bandwidth and resolution, screenshots always look really rough beside the 4k+ resolution stills from studios, and it makes the gallery look pretty trashy to have it full of bad quality images; I don’t personally like behind the scenes shots much of the time because they are so unclear, and ones taken from across the street, posted by a passerby, are find to post in threads but not identify a show’s final product by). I don’t request removal of them but most look pretty out of place beside pics of the actual drama.
In any case, know that every time a post is put up here, lots of us get notifications, so sticking to the task at hand and asking the mod in charge of this would serve you better if your content is taken down and you don’t want to fight in public (that goes for anyone, not just the one whose pics got removed). Otherwise, you will all invite anyone and everyone to remark. Stick to what is in studio pages for there. Put other pics in the discussion tab full of forum posts and they won’t be removed or too easily lost (unless wholly inappropriate, of course ie advertising or lewd pics).
Feeds are good for reacting to the current ep of this or that you are watching but do disappear fast, so I recommend the discussion tab for anything you want to be found more than a day or two later. Happy drama watching!
Respectful Moderator!
This response will address your concerns and also provide additional guidance to others. Not all of the photos here are yours.
This response is being used to give some transparency into the decision making process, showcasing photos and the specific reasons why they will be removed. There will also be suggestions on what photos are allowed.
To clarify some misunderstandings at the start:
Some seem to think that photos published by actors or actors' studios automatically belong in the gallery regardless of content. They do not.
Some seem to think that any photo with a listed source can belong in the gallery. They do not.
Photos must meet ALL the guidelines, not just one or two.
Now on to The Early Spring with examples of photos that will be deleted and why:
====== Example 1 ======
Violation 1: paparazzi/fan pic
Violation 2: unreliable source
Violation 3: not valid behind-the-scenes pic
For violation 1 and 2, the source clearly states this is the poster's first time running into a celebrity. Violation 1 is enough to remove the photo.
The reason violation 3 is mentioned: celebrities going to/from a set, or even celebrities on a set itself, does not make it a valid behind-the-scenes pic.
Behind-the-scenes as defined by Merriam-Webster and the Cambridge dictionary (paraphrased here): any work, action, or unseen labor required to make a project succeed.
The photo must show production work being done.
Allowed: actors in wire rigging receiving advice from choreographer, actors at a dining table reviewing script with writers, actors having fake wound makeup or prosthetics applied.
Not allowed: non-distinct photos of actors sitting/posing on set (if there's no work being done in the foreground or background, subject to be removed).
====== Example 2 ======
Violation 1: unreliable source (for all three)
for first pic...
Violation 2: not official behind-the-scenes
Violation 3: low quality
Violation 4: screenshot of another picture
for second pic....
Violation 2: screenshot
Violation 3: contains fan watermark
for third pic....
Violation 2: Keep the Gallery Title-Focused- An image should have a clear connection to the drama, movie, or show itself.
These are mostly self-explanatory. For the third pic, there is no clear connection to the drama. Photos of actors - even if they are on set and in costume, even if uploaded by the actors themselves, and even if captioned "I'm on the set of this drama" - must visually show a clear connection to the production (drama/movie/show) itself. Non-distinct photos like these will be deleted. The actor could be headed to a doctor's appointment, for all we know.
On the topic of screenshots: some people have been uploading screenshots of official photos. Upload the originals. The screenshot may look fine on a tiny phone screen; they do not look fine on a large 4k monitor. All screenshots are subject for removal.
====== Example 3 ======
Violation 1: Keep the Gallery Title-Focused- An image should have a clear connection to the drama, movie, or show itself.
Violation 2: Use reasonable discretion. Galleries should not contain large numbers of nearly identical photographs showing the same scene or moment from slightly different angles.
These are nice, high quality photos BUT the gallery should be focused on the production itself. It is not the personal gallery of the actors involved. These photos are focused on the actor and visually have no clear connection to the production. It could be from a magazine photoshoot, it could be from another drama....
The actor's studio says the photos show off the character's style. That would be ok, except there are already official pics with him in suits in the gallery already. Plus, if that is the reason for these pics, then violation 2 - pick and upload one or two of the most distinctive/unique outfits or photos. We do not need to see the same person in similar outfits in similar locations at multiple different angles. Be selective. Quality over quantity.
What may be allowed: if he was in a distinctively different outfit (police riot gear, doctor's surgical scrubs, etc.), if he was fighting another character (that could be plot-worthy), if he was proposing to another character...
====== Final Words ======
For some of the reasons stated above, exceptions are allowed, as stated in the guidelines, if published by the production company or network as they count as official promotional material.
Everyone uploading photos should familiarize themselves with the guidelines. If there are photos you want to share, but they don't meet the guidelines or you are unsure if they belong in the gallery, you can post them in the discussions, in your personal feed, or on your profile page. Those are safer options as repeated violations in the gallery can result in a user's photo upload privileges to be muted.
Please use this thread for future gallery questions (after reading the guidelines). There is no need for anyone to directly message individual staff members; you will all be directed to the guidelines on the front page of this thread.
We appreciate users who have shared the guidelines and provided advice to other users. (Your comments have been read and your efforts acknowledged prior to those photos being deleted. 😊) Thank you for helping to make this community better!
Moonlight:
Oh well, I understand now.
I randomly stumbled on your photos in Rap of China so thought it might be helpful to talk through the thought process so you know what will be deleted and to give you a better sense of what to upload in the future. (I know these photos were uploaded before the discussion above so not blaming anyone... just using these as examples....)
In the screenshot below, the photos in the bottom row are all allowed in the gallery. They are published by iQIYI or the show itself. Those types of photos can be uploaded, assuming they meet the other guidelines (i.e., no heat index/popularity/ratings allowed, etc.).
All the photos above that row are from YHX's account and to be included in the gallery, per the guidelines...
"Keep the Gallery Title-Focused: An image should have a clear connection to the drama, movie, or show itself."
The only photos that nicely fit that criteria - that show a clear connection to the show - are the ones boxed in white (top left, and the left three in the third row). He is on stage AND doing something show related. The AND part is important because if he had stood on stage and just taken a selfie, that would not be allowed as the focus of the photo is on him, and not on the production itself. So those photos in white are ok for the gallery.
All the other ones are technically not ok for the gallery. They could be from any random photoshoot, and the focus of each photo is on the person and not the show itself. However, one could argue that he is showing off his outfit for the episode, in which case, fine but keep only one or two photos and remove the rest. Like in the top two rows, pick one or two (I'd do one with the shades and one without) and delete the rest.
Same with the photos on the bottom of page 2 of that gallery, and on pages 3 and 4. All the photos are focused on him and not the production itself. If the point is to show off the outfits, then pick one or two pics of each and remove the rest.
I would also add that if there is already an official photo of a particular outfit, then it's not necessary to add more from the cast member's account. For example, the official photos in the top row here show the same outfit as the 1st and 3rd pic in the bottom row. They are also similar camera angles so those two on the bottom row can be removed as they're basically duplicative.
Hopefully that gives you a better sense of what to upload.
We'll leave that gallery temporarily untouched for now so you can pick and choose which photos to keep and delete.
ElBee:
https://kisskh.at/photos/g0AqnO_3
Official promo images showing when the final express schedule is released can remain in the gallery; otherwise, we will never have official confirmation of why the schedule shown on our pages differs from the actual calendar showing when the last episode aired.
Happyspirit:
One more doubt-If I can’t provide the link,can I write the name of the official source below the pic?
URL should be bare minimum for a source. Every picture has a URL source, unless someone directly texted you the photo... in which case, they are not a reliable source. 😂
Some examples of helpful and not helpful source listings....
Not helpful/not acceptable
Source is YoukuSource is actor's studioToo vague.
Good
https://www.weibo.com/example/exampleonlyThis is the bare minimum acceptable source link. Should be a direct link to page or to post that contains the picture. Not a link to the main website, not a link to the account's home page. Anyone clicking on link must easily be able to see the picture on that page and the context (accompanying text, the account, the platform, etc.).
Good+
https://www.weibo.com/example/exampletwo
(from movie's Weibo)Some users have been including additional text below the source links which is super helpful and greatly appreciated.
Good ++
https://www.weibo.com/example/examplethree
(from actor's studio Weibo)
The actor's studio released this screenshot for episode 3.Some users have included explanations for what the image is showing. Obviously this is not necessary for all images (some are self-explanatory, like posters, release schedules, etc.). In this case, it is super helpful because otherwise, without any source info, the screenshot would look like a typical user-made screenshot and could've been deleted. The explanation justifies why it's in the gallery. Again, explanations are not necessary for all pics; they are helpful in cases where there might be uncertainty.
maple_snow:
However, let me reiterate that I always make a point of following MDL’s guidelines when uploading any photos. So, if there is a specific rule I’ve misunderstood, I’m perfectly happy to take a look at it and correct anything that needs correcting.
Here are photos that were deleted and the reasons why so you know what to upload and what not to upload in the future.
The one in the orange box is a screenshot. Screenshots like these, whether made by you or the account you got them from, are not allowed.
The ones in the blue boxes are edits. Collages, montages, cropped photos, etc. are not allowed. No edits of any kind, again whether they are made by you or the account you got them from. Only upload original photos from official sources.
All the other photos starting with the yellow arrow rightwards are from an individual's photoshoot. Galleries should be focused on the show itself and are not the personal galleries of any individual cast member. Photos that are not directly related to the show, even if they contain a cast member, are not allowed.
Please review the guidelines on the front page; all of these reasons are stated there.
However, let me reiterate that I always make a point of following MDL’s guidelines when uploading any photos. So, if there is a specific rule I’ve misunderstood, I’m perfectly happy to take a look at it and correct anything that needs correcting.
Hi. Please reach out if you have questions about the guidelines on the front page of this thread.
If you missed the response a couple days ago about screenshots not being allowed. You can read it here: https://kisskh.at/discussions/support/143628-photo-upload-rules-report-thread?pid=3582754&page=13#p3582754
This picture that you posted today is a screenshot. You can share them on your personal feed or in the Discussions. Please keep in mind that they are not allowed in the galleries. Thank you.
Can the grey place holder, 'official poster has not been released' images not be deleted?
Those posters can stay; they will be dealt with later.
Thanks for reaching out about your photos. Using those as examples, below we will walk through the thought process of what's allowed and what's not. If you haven't already, I would suggest reading this message as it also has explanations and examples that are relevant.
Based on the photos in question, here are some key points that will hopefully help in deciding what photos to upload in the future (some of this is mentioned in the link above, re-emphasizing here....):
Keep the Gallery Title-Focused: An image should have a clear connection to the drama, movie, or show itself.
The purpose of each photo in the gallery should be focused on the production itself. It is not the personal gallery of any actor. For example, the subject of a selfie is the actor and not the production, and therefore those are subject for removal; doesn't matter if they are on set and in costume.Behind the scenes photos must show some level of work being done. The link above has specific examples. Basically photos of actor(s) sitting or standing around the set are not valid behind the scenes photos and subject for removal.
"Official" - Some people are stuck on the idea that any photo from an official source (like from an actor's account) is allowed in the gallery. That is not true. That's just one criteria. Yes, the photo must come from an official source. AND they must also meet all the other criteria of the guidelines.
Re-using the example from above: saying that selfies were posted by the actors themselves is not a valid argument. Doesn't matter who posted it and that the source is "official"; if the subject of the photo is not focused on the production itself (or violates any other guideline), it is subject for removal.
Now the walkthrough....
The ones marked with a red X should be removed. The first two are focused on the holiday. The core message of the photo is not the production, but the actor celebrating a holiday.
The red Xs on the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rows are pics of him just sitting or standing on set doing nothing. As discussed before, behind the scenes (BTS) should show some level of producing being done. Waiting around, eating on set, walking to/from set, etc. does not count.
The green checkmark in the second row can be kept as BTS since hair and makeup are being done. The ones with him holding a script (the 5 pics that are marked with orange 1s) - one can stay, remove the other 4; one is enough for a BTS, the rest add no value to the gallery and are essentially duplicative.
The remaining unmarked photos can stay for now.
We'll leave the gallery untouched for now, so you can pick which of the script photo you think should stay.
(Side note, since these are Gu Zi Cheng photos, I highly recommend the variety Wonderland Junior S4 for fans of his; he was great in that.)
