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I always write a review for everything i watch, but there is no review page for this movie, can you fix that?

Thanx in advance.

Thank you for reminding me about this issue. I also noticed it a while ago, but forgot to make a post here.

This issue does also affect other titles.

I first noticed it for Dangerous Drugs of Sex and Macho Caponata. I thought this might be another case of homophobia mixed with the infamous US-American prudishness, but both Playboy (and the Gang of Cherry) and Double Exposure (both gay and rated R) have normal title pages.

Then I wondered if it's just the rating, not the gayness: But The Naked Director, Call Boy, and Hit the Spot (all het, all rated R) also have normal pages.

I tried some other tags -- but for example Double Mints (gay, rated 15+, very violent with on-screen rape scenes) does not have this issue.

However, what I finally found was that titles tagged "pink film" are all having title pages that don't allow the posting of new Reviews, Recs, Photos, Discussion or link to the Feeds, regardless of rating (Athlete, rated 13+, or Bopanacchi Every Day, not yet rated) or if they are het (Tough Girls).

I do not understand why kisskh arbitrarily chooses to restrict discussion about a whole genre.
It's not as if they are showing the films themselves.
Age Rating obviously doesn't matter -- or kisskh would restrict discussions on all titles rated 18+ or R (and lose much of their userbase?)

In my opinion, if kisskh is supposed to be a place to discuss dramas and movies from the seven chosen Asian countries, then every film and every drama that has been legally made in these countries should be treated equally.

What is also interesting is that this is a new-ish decision, because I wrote my review for Macho Caponata in November 2024 and even got a comment on it.

Is this

  • a mistake? (then please fix it)

  • a clumsy attempt to cut "porn" from the site and be "family friendly"? (which is laughable. Art is art. Art is not always family friendly; and it shouldn't be, because life itself is not family friendly. And if this is the motivation, then make it an official rule, cut out all titles rated 18+ or R, and see what happens)

  • or is it an attempt to placate credit card companies and advertisers (who famously have attempted, and unfortunately succeeded, to de-list games from Steam last year)?

I ask admins to please explain what happened here.

I don't think it is about adult sexual rating, otherwise it would also be with this title https://kisskh.at/795714-therapy
That one is almost porn, the only thing you don't see is the genitals...that "drama" is almost only sex and full nude.

Saeng:
titles tagged "pink film" are all having title pages that don't allow the posting of new Reviews, Recs, Photos, Discussion or link to the Feeds,

Thank you for this information. I didn't realize "pink film" has no of these options.

Saeng:
a clumsy attempt to cut "porn" from the site

Porn have never been allowed in MDL since I joined the site 10 years ago. But pink film and softcore have been allowed in the database. My guess is softcore/pink films are usually featuring mainstream actors, mainstream directors, while porn exclusively involves porn actors/crews. That might be the logics but I don't know. We do have profile pages for porn actors though since they do make appearance in mainstream works.

Now the problem is Pink Film is very "Japanese" when it comes to categorization. Only certain works fall under that category while those with almost similar essence are not. Example: It Feels So Good which is as good as porn already. It even can be found on illegal porn sites....lol

Saeng:
and be "family friendly"?

It will be more of "NSFW free" than "family friendly" IMO. If that is the direction then be it. But Admins need to be specific with the regulations and must avoid the double standard.

I think we can safely say that since it's not just the one title that's affected, it can't be a simple bug.

As I said, the only tag I could find that's consistently restricted like that is "pink film"; the rating and other tags don't seem to have any influence.

I don't know if you, AeonFlux71, are familiar with the genre?
Pink films (ピンク映画, "Pinku Eiga") are Japanese Erotic Films -- but rather than being just the equivalent to Western "soft porn" (as many seem to think), it's a genre with its own history and artistic value -- some are just for the titillation, yes, but more than a few are also hiding unique plots, real depth, and great artistry under the crass sex scenes.
(Which, if restricting Pink Films like this is indeed intentional and not a mistake, makes censoring honest discussion about them even worse: How sad is it when a site dedicated to discussing and archiving information about films from Japan (among other countries) just labels a whole genre as undesirable with US-American sensibilities and ignores that it's a part of the Japanese media landscape?) (Can't help to think "What's next?")

TimiZero:

It will be more of "NSFW free" than "family friendly" IMO. If that is the direction then be it. But Admins need to be specific with the regulations and must avoid the double standard.

I agree.

"NSFW free" would mean to "regulate" more than just Pink Films.
(Edit to add: "NSFW free" as a possible goal is still a questionable thing -- this is an archive of information and a place for discussion. The films themselves are not even hosted here, so where's the NSFW?)

If MDL absolutely want to censor discussion about adult-oriented films (i.e. anything sex-related that offends US-American sensibilities?) then make it equal for all of them and be honest about it.

But after this, what?
Where's the line? Censor every horror film too? Thrillers? Anything LGBTQ+? Slippery slope.

Saeng:
if restricting Pink Films like this is indeed intentional and not a mistake

Logically, they could go to all softcore themed contents. Maybe they are still in progress of doing that and just happened to start with Pink Film first as the tag is already available for mass filtering.

Saeng:

If MDL absolutely want to censor discussion about adult-oriented films (i.e. anything sex-related that offends US-American sensibilities?) then make it equal for all of them and be honest about it.

Exactly!

TimiZero:
Logically, they could go to all softcore themed contents.

They could, but it would affect a not-so-small percentage of BL dramas (as lots of them are rated 18+ or even R), and I am not sure this would go down well with the BL crowd -- and as can be seen on any given day on the main page's "Top Airing Shows", the BL crowd is quite large and surely responsible for a lot of traffic (i.e. ad revenue).
(But at least it would be consistent. Not the right choice, in my view -- see above -- but consistent.)

(Going further down the logical chain, any post with a half-naked man and thirst-comments would be the next step.)

(And then censoring speech, like on TikTok & co.)