Kind of wish there was more time given to the PheeJin back story in this episode - I think that their relationship…
I agree, I wish there were more effort spend on selling us on the idea of Jin loving Phee, the sequence of events for this makes no sense in my opinion. I hope they might still go back in time to show us more. Because what we have now makes me feel nothing at all looking at them in the present.
I don't want them to die but I am not invested nor rooting for their relationship basically. I don't feel it and I was sooo looking forward to finding out about how they got to where their relationship is in the present and just wanting for crumps about their backstory every week. Now, seeing the preview of them holding hands walking in the woods I'm not excited at all since that is the present and I still don't understand their supposed feelings of the past
Am i the only one who's not really feeling for PheeJin at this point. I was really into them since the beginning…
yeah I've been looking forward to seeing Jin and Phee finally meeting but it was very lackluster in my opinion. They gave Non and Phee a collage where we are supposed to see that they spend time with each other over a longer period but didn't do they same for Phee and Jin so the time frame is hard to grasp.
So with Jin and Phee that is supposedly exactly what happened too (getting to know each other/ Jin falling for Phee over a time period) but we only got a couple of scenes with them (where the sex scene is the lager one) and Jin is supposedly in love now but it seems like the spann of time was only a few days (one?) at best looking at the scenes they had?
-Talking about cameras, going to the landscape location and then having sex when getting back home- That is literally one day.
If the writer mean for their relationship to evolve from friend to lover (in Jin's view) they should have made an effort to put together several smaller scenes so that we can get a feel for Jins feelings more. Not they just feel like displaced teenage feeling to me, like he is to quick to fall in love and that it could have been anyone being nice to him. I did not feel the love that Jin is supposed to feel basically. I think they did a poor job making us believe it from Jin's side.
Also, they meet up a few(?)/ one times outside of school, had sex once and then never talked to each other again? Or they talked but only in school? Considering Phee, two years later, went to Jin's house trying to talk to him it seems they didn't talk at all during that time. That is just weird and the backdrop for the first few episode (their relationship/ tension) makes no sense.
I wonder if we are going to get more backstory to them or if this is it. Like what about the school scene in the trailer? Not that I want sex scenes but I want something that shows their relationship over time to understand Jin's feelings (as well as Phee's potential ones) and so far I don't see it.
Anyway, I hope we get some more backstory to both their and Tee/ White in the upcoming episodes but we don't have many left...
We have seen Phee take charge in the present with the murderer around, that could mean he is just not easily scared/ a confident guy or he knows something about the killings (like if there is a revenge thing going on).
The thing I'm wondering though is IF there is a revenge plot happening where one or more people are in on the killing of the others, why would Phee protect Jin? And if both of them are in on the revenge plot why would the murderer attempt to kill them when they are the only two there/ no witnesses? Also, if Phee is involved and out for revenge he could have let the murderer kill Jin when both of them were alone with the killer but he didn't, he saved him. (Could also mean he thinks Jin is worth saving, but still weird since he should have told the murderer to leave Jin alone then if he knows the killer).
It could also be that Phee and others revenge plan has nothing to do with the murderer and that they are not involved with that, or that they are not out for revenge at all. Just understanding what happened to Non and maybe hold them accountable by other means.
Since Phee saved Jin and promised to protect him/ not let anything happen to him, I'm having a hard time imagining that he just lied and that he will betray Jin later on as all we have seen of Phee so far is a good guy that doesn't like liars. Then Jin almost getting killed tells me Jin does not know the murder plot either.
I think that if there is a revenge plot going on within the group, that the murder is not part of the plan.
In my opinion he did it because he thought he wouldn't get money it he refused. Yeah, it sound' even worse, but…
but had he not already gotten the money before he slept with the teacher?
I can understand Non feeling indebted to the teacher after his help and that might have influenced him in his decision to sleep with the teacher, but I'm pretty sure he received the money before.
Actually, I understood Jin acknowledged he posted the video, hence why he felt so guilty. "The path to hell is…
that we know of. But we also know that Tee tasked Top with shadowing Non, what if he went and filmed after Fluke and Jin left? Or if Jin shared the video with Fluke who then shared it with others (Tee)? I hope not because that would make Jin a little worse in my opinion and I am hoping he is a good guy who feel guilty and is trying to make things right.
Someone here said that the angle Jin filmed from and the angle of the leaked video is different. I don't know if that is true or not (that would mean there would have to be another door or that there was literally a camera recording in the room), because I do not want to rewatch that scene, but if that is the case that would change everything.
That would be a fucking waste if white is just a normal person stuck in this because of those assholes. If this…
yeah I'm not sure if the person calling out to Phee is Tan either. Maybe White has something to do with it all, or the writers are trying to throw us off with showing White there. Maybe we are supposed to assume he has knowledge about the situation but then he might just know of Phee since they might go to the same school before Phee and Tan transfer.
Maybe that is how White and Tee meet, because White knows Phee who joins Tees friend group, I don't know. Looking forward to next weekend for sure
R u stupid? Then non is fraud who deceived his friends for bank account scam & also cheater too
just a thought, if Non bears no blame for choices he made because they were a result of other people influencing/ forcing him, what about Tee?
He has his fathers health hanging over him in his dealings with his uncle. If Non is completely blameless then I feel Tee should be too (which I do not, but by going with you logic that is the only conclusion, no?)
I'm sad too. We are at episode 9 next weekend and basically no Pheejin at all. It feels like Non is the main character in the series.
Hopefully we get some scenes of them in the next ep since the preview for ep 9 shows Phee and Tan transferring to their school. I hope they spend some time there to give us a backstory to Pheejin before they take us back to the present. At this point this series is more of a high school bullying story then a thriller or whatever it was sold as considering majority of episodes where spent giving us Non's story.
Then non is an attempted murder ,cheater & also a fraud.See,I won’t gonna defend Jin bcz he did wrong & made…
but they did not force Non to stay in the group, in fact all of them except Jin seemed like they wanted nothing to do with Non. So if he just stayed away for the group they would go back to ignoring him.
They didn't go around looking for Non and bully him, he went to them (not saying bullying is ok either way, but there is a difference). Non had a way out, stop looking for them/trying to be included in a group that clearly does not like you.
What’s wrong with slapping one time when son is out of control ? I stand with u on no violence bcz I hate Asian…
I saw Non's father looking at his hand after hitting Non as more of a "what have I done?" thing, like he could not believe himself capable of it. So as to show us that the father reacted in the moment without thinking and might be regretting it.
Not that his hand hurt and that is why he is looking at it. If that was the case they would have most likely have had him show the pain on his face and grab his hand with the other so as to sooth it like we all do when we hurt our hand.
That would be a fucking waste if white is just a normal person stuck in this because of those assholes. If this…
even if White might not have anything to do with Non/ the revenge plot I don't think his character would be useless. Maybe his purpose is to show us a Tee we have not seen in the past. Where Tee cares for someone and puts them before himself compared to his past where it seems like everyone is expendable to him, even if he might feel a tinge of guilt he still goes on like nothing. Maybe White is the character to change that. I would not see him as useless then. I actually find I would be more interested in seeing Whites reaction to everything Tee have done if he was completely new to the situation just thinking his boyfriend is a normal average guy to then seeing the real guy. To then get Tee's reaction to White knowing the full story.
Also, genrerally when there is a plot like this there is a person who is a complete outsider that will act as a stand-in for the audience, so that other character can give him info that the others already know but the audience does not without it looking to strange with them just info dropping all the time for no reason. If they have a character to inform about the situation the flow is better. If White is not aware at all and just a "normal" boyfriend of Tee, I believe his character might have a bigger role when all is revealed since he is basically us then.
See,non himself never tried to avoid the group when he had a chance so I don’t consider it as bullying where…
I agree with you. I don't understand why Non decided to stay. It was not like the group purposely walked around looking for him to bully him so it seems like if he just stopped trying to get involved with the script (or after the script was done like when Phee tried to convince him to stop hanging out with them), they'd left him alone. I don't understand his reasoning for staying. Non's justification for staying to Phee seemed like he wanted to complete the short film so as to have something to show for the work, which I then could understand to a point. But then it doesn't make sense when Jin convicts Non to stay on the project after Por takes the writer credit. If Non initially stayed with the group for the credit/ work experience but then not get that/ gets offered an acting role instead, why did he not just leave?
It can't even have been because he wanted friends considering he seems to have no problem making them like Phee (who was more than that but you get my point).
Well, we can forget about PhiJin. Looks like it was never real for Phi.The way they revealed Tan this early, I'm…
curious; why do you feel like Tan being introduced now disqualifies him as being New? I'd love to hear your theory/ reasoning for it. I always go here after watching the latest episode to check and see what others are saying/ their theories.
I really enjoy this series, it is my go-to thing to do (watch) every Sunday morning. I'm gonna be sad when it is over
i NEED to know what happened after Phee saved Non did Jin meet Phee at Non's i'm going crazy
me too! I was so exited at the end of episode 6 with the preview for episode 7 where it seemed like Phee and Jin would meet at Non's place.
I don't understand what happened, we didn't get a continuation of that at all. Now I'm thinking maybe they have "saved" that scene, if it even exists, to explain the story later on
And people defended Jin. He may regreted for 5 minutes for his part of crime he committed against Non, but the…
but just like Non feels he can't stop getting bullied, aka helping himself (not even literally but just stop hanging out with them/ asking an adult for help etc), how can we expect Jin to stand up for Non and place himself in a position to be bullied?
I am not saying that Jin is doing the right thing but placing blame on him for just sometimes telling his friends to stop when they are mean to Non and not doing "more", Non is doing nothing himself so how is Jin to blame for this? The bullies are the bad guys, bystanders are not the best but again, Non does literally nothing himself. And without the bullies, who are the problem, Jin wouldn't be a bystander to begin with.
I have been a victim, not of bullying but, I would say worse things. Regardless, I don't blame anyone but myself because I didn't ask for help, how can I except others to step up for me when I don't even do so for myself? If I don't put/ protect myself first, why should I expect others to do so
"I see you as a younger brother". Then proceeds to solicit sex from Non. That teacher ain't shit.
yeah I though that was a weird comment too, but I think we who are not Thai assume he means litteral brother while he probably just mean a phi/ nong relationship and a relationship like that can be partners, lovers, friends etc
EP 7 made my blood boil again . The human behaviour in this is just next level of shit 🤬 When you think it…
I was thinking the teacher is an undercover cop or something, looking for evidence to bring Tee's uncles group down and that the Joy woman is his informat/ source on the inside, and that he were being nice to Non to gain his trust to access more info. But then he didn't have to sleep with him so I don't know...
On the other hand him being connected to the Junta thing makes sense as well. I don't know. Looking forward to next weekend that is for sure
your idea of maybe someone else also filming a video of Non with the teacher is making a lot of sense to me considering…
this would also make sense in that Jin didn't want the video destroyed in the beginning of the story, him and Phee trying to save the video from Tee, and I believe Top, destroying it.
I don't know, it's been weeks and maybe that was another video but I think it could make sense that they want to keep it for evidence and hand it over to police and/ or that Jin want to confirm that it is not his video aka someone else filmed as well to maybe ease is conscience.
I hope they might still go back in time to show us more. Because what we have now makes me feel nothing at all looking at them in the present.
I don't want them to die but I am not invested nor rooting for their relationship basically. I don't feel it and I was sooo looking forward to finding out about how they got to where their relationship is in the present and just wanting for crumps about their backstory every week. Now, seeing the preview of them holding hands walking in the woods I'm not excited at all since that is the present and I still don't understand their supposed feelings of the past
So with Jin and Phee that is supposedly exactly what happened too (getting to know each other/ Jin falling for Phee over a time period) but we only got a couple of scenes with them (where the sex scene is the lager one) and Jin is supposedly in love now but it seems like the spann of time was only a few days (one?) at best looking at the scenes they had?
-Talking about cameras, going to the landscape location and then having sex when getting back home-
That is literally one day.
If the writer mean for their relationship to evolve from friend to lover (in Jin's view) they should have made an effort to put together several smaller scenes so that we can get a feel for Jins feelings more. Not they just feel like displaced teenage feeling to me, like he is to quick to fall in love and that it could have been anyone being nice to him.
I did not feel the love that Jin is supposed to feel basically. I think they did a poor job making us believe it from Jin's side.
Also, they meet up a few(?)/ one times outside of school, had sex once and then never talked to each other again? Or they talked but only in school? Considering Phee, two years later, went to Jin's house trying to talk to him it seems they didn't talk at all during that time. That is just weird and the backdrop for the first few episode (their relationship/ tension) makes no sense.
I wonder if we are going to get more backstory to them or if this is it. Like what about the school scene in the trailer? Not that I want sex scenes but I want something that shows their relationship over time to understand Jin's feelings (as well as Phee's potential ones) and so far I don't see it.
Anyway, I hope we get some more backstory to both their and Tee/ White in the upcoming episodes but we don't have many left...
We have seen Phee take charge in the present with the murderer around, that could mean he is just not easily scared/ a confident guy or he knows something about the killings (like if there is a revenge thing going on).
The thing I'm wondering though is IF there is a revenge plot happening where one or more people are in on the killing of the others, why would Phee protect Jin?
And if both of them are in on the revenge plot why would the murderer attempt to kill them when they are the only two there/ no witnesses?
Also, if Phee is involved and out for revenge he could have let the murderer kill Jin when both of them were alone with the killer but he didn't, he saved him. (Could also mean he thinks Jin is worth saving, but still weird since he should have told the murderer to leave Jin alone then if he knows the killer).
It could also be that Phee and others revenge plan has nothing to do with the murderer and that they are not involved with that, or that they are not out for revenge at all. Just understanding what happened to Non and maybe hold them accountable by other means.
Since Phee saved Jin and promised to protect him/ not let anything happen to him, I'm having a hard time imagining that he just lied and that he will betray Jin later on as all we have seen of Phee so far is a good guy that doesn't like liars.
Then Jin almost getting killed tells me Jin does not know the murder plot either.
I think that if there is a revenge plot going on within the group, that the murder is not part of the plan.
I can understand Non feeling indebted to the teacher after his help and that might have influenced him in his decision to sleep with the teacher, but I'm pretty sure he received the money before.
Or if Jin shared the video with Fluke who then shared it with others (Tee)? I hope not because that would make Jin a little worse in my opinion and I am hoping he is a good guy who feel guilty and is trying to make things right.
Someone here said that the angle Jin filmed from and the angle of the leaked video is different. I don't know if that is true or not (that would mean there would have to be another door or that there was literally a camera recording in the room), because I do not want to rewatch that scene, but if that is the case that would change everything.
Maybe we are supposed to assume he has knowledge about the situation but then he might just know of Phee since they might go to the same school before Phee and Tan transfer.
Maybe that is how White and Tee meet, because White knows Phee who joins Tees friend group, I don't know. Looking forward to next weekend for sure
He has his fathers health hanging over him in his dealings with his uncle. If Non is completely blameless then I feel Tee should be too (which I do not, but by going with you logic that is the only conclusion, no?)
Hopefully we get some scenes of them in the next ep since the preview for ep 9 shows Phee and Tan transferring to their school.
I hope they spend some time there to give us a backstory to Pheejin before they take us back to the present. At this point this series is more of a high school bullying story then a thriller or whatever it was sold as considering majority of episodes where spent giving us Non's story.
So if he just stayed away for the group they would go back to ignoring him.
They didn't go around looking for Non and bully him, he went to them (not saying bullying is ok either way, but there is a difference). Non had a way out, stop looking for them/trying to be included in a group that clearly does not like you.
Not that his hand hurt and that is why he is looking at it. If that was the case they would have most likely have had him show the pain on his face and grab his hand with the other so as to sooth it like we all do when we hurt our hand.
Maybe his purpose is to show us a Tee we have not seen in the past. Where Tee cares for someone and puts them before himself compared to his past where it seems like everyone is expendable to him, even if he might feel a tinge of guilt he still goes on like nothing.
Maybe White is the character to change that. I would not see him as useless then. I actually find I would be more interested in seeing Whites reaction to everything Tee have done if he was completely new to the situation just thinking his boyfriend is a normal average guy to then seeing the real guy. To then get Tee's reaction to White knowing the full story.
Also, genrerally when there is a plot like this there is a person who is a complete outsider that will act as a stand-in for the audience, so that other character can give him info that the others already know but the audience does not without it looking to strange with them just info dropping all the time for no reason.
If they have a character to inform about the situation the flow is better. If White is not aware at all and just a "normal" boyfriend of Tee, I believe his character might have a bigger role when all is revealed since he is basically us then.
I don't understand his reasoning for staying. Non's justification for staying to Phee seemed like he wanted to complete the short film so as to have something to show for the work, which I then could understand to a point.
But then it doesn't make sense when Jin convicts Non to stay on the project after Por takes the writer credit. If Non initially stayed with the group for the credit/ work experience but then not get that/ gets offered an acting role instead, why did he not just leave?
It can't even have been because he wanted friends considering he seems to have no problem making them like Phee (who was more than that but you get my point).
I always go here after watching the latest episode to check and see what others are saying/ their theories.
I really enjoy this series, it is my go-to thing to do (watch) every Sunday morning. I'm gonna be sad when it is over
I don't understand what happened, we didn't get a continuation of that at all. Now I'm thinking maybe they have "saved" that scene, if it even exists, to explain the story later on
I am not saying that Jin is doing the right thing but placing blame on him for just sometimes telling his friends to stop when they are mean to Non and not doing "more", Non is doing nothing himself so how is Jin to blame for this? The bullies are the bad guys, bystanders are not the best but again, Non does literally nothing himself. And without the bullies, who are the problem, Jin wouldn't be a bystander to begin with.
I have been a victim, not of bullying but, I would say worse things. Regardless, I don't blame anyone but myself because I didn't ask for help, how can I except others to step up for me when I don't even do so for myself? If I don't put/ protect myself first, why should I expect others to do so
On the other hand him being connected to the Junta thing makes sense as well. I don't know. Looking forward to next weekend that is for sure
I don't know, it's been weeks and maybe that was another video but I think it could make sense that they want to keep it for evidence and hand it over to police and/ or that Jin want to confirm that it is not his video aka someone else filmed as well to maybe ease is conscience.