i understand where it was coming from.its the mafia world. You betray the main family you are DEAD. DEAD.VEGAS…
Same here, Mimi. I bet Porsche has finally learnt to be a bEtTer boyfriend and to some extent, bodyguard. But it's a stretch to say he can lead the minor family, and while it'd make more sense for Vegas to do so,he'd be back for revenge and Korn wouldn't be able to control him like he can control Porsche because Porsche is only there for Kinn, and we all know that Kinn can never go against his dad. SO yes, it is a better strategy for Korn to make Porsche head of minor family rather than Vegas. However I want Vegas to lead, because while I adore Porsche (he remains my fav and he came through for Kinn in the last episode), he can barely fend for himself, so how tf is he expected to lead a whole family??? Meanwhile Vegas and Pete being BAMF togetherrrr???? PLEASEEEE
I personally think that the hype around this show is well deserved. Admittedly, at first I was more than a bit skeptical about how the show handled the non-consensual elements (because they were very triggering for me in the novel), but while they didn't completely make it a healthy encounter from the get-go, it was nice watching Kinn get some development and have the courage to accept that he made mistakes, and tried to make up for them. While most people might find Vegas as their favorite, my own personal pick would be Porsche. I mean- I don't even know where to start; in the novel he came off quite jaded, and somewhat irritating (not in the good way), however, I'm glad that they made his character much more entertaining in the show, and despite what others say, he has been the one who had the most character development, which is to say, negative in contrast to Kinn, who had the positive arc. We saw Kinn go from an arrogant mafia boss with trust issues, to a lover who'd quite literally do anything for Porsche, while trying to solve those trust issues as well. Porsche on the other hand started out somewhat streetsmart, but still an adorable ball of sunshine who gave too much second hand embarrassment. The highlight of his character is the love and adoration he has for his little brother, I mean- dude just joined the MAFIA for him, what more could one want? That aside, we saw his development from episode 4, and how broken he was after it, He is a simple and forgiving person, and it is proved again and again, first with Kinn, Vegas, and then Korn., that is his one trait that remains consistent. As much as I love him, some of his decisions were very questioning as seen in the later episodes, I don't know whether they were due to bad characterization in general, or the fact that the writers intended to show how the mafia rubbed off on him By the end of the show, he'd also become hardened, cunning, and extremely selfish. One of his decisions stood out to me was one coonected with Pete. It marked one of the first times he'd completely disregarded his value for relationships, and it wouldn't be wrong to say that now he honestly doesn't care about anyone other than Kinn and Chay, he'd probably kill for them or worse. He does what he wants, for his own purpose, and thats what he's become. Apo Nnattawin played the crap out of him in my opinion, and the chemistry he shares with his onscreen partner Mile is unmatched. The best part of his performance for me were in episode 4 , episode 6 and episode 7. He owned his character and no one else could've played him better. Also, I understand the hype around VegasPete, and while I do like them to some extent, I mostly find myself indifferent to them, they don't excite me as much as the main couple does, but the actors, especially Bible, hold their own quite well. I won't comment more on Build, but his chemistry with his onscreen partner was brilliant, and his acting packed a gut punch (even for an indifferent person like me). I think that maybe I didn't click with them much was due to the non consensual (disturbing) sequence being glossed over, like- I keep wondering how the hell do you want to make out with someone who electrocuted your balls the day before. I like the Pete-heals-Vegas approach, but it doesn't do much for me, I guess. I think the story could've been written a bit better, especially the way that some characters behaved, it was odd to see Kinnporsche being all cuddly while Big's sacrifice got ignored and shoved under a rug. Then we got a tiny piece of KimChay, with hardly any personality to Kim, like why did he ever ghost Chay like that, and why did he act as if he wanted Chay back so randomly in the end? Also, what was the whole point of Kim snooping around for Porsche's backstory if he never revealed it? If it is to be shown in the next season, then they should've dropped some hints, because all I can say is that it looks a lot like the writers just needed an excuse for Kim to meet Chay as a plot device. Also, Porsche just selling Pete off to Vegas like that disturbed and disappointed me, it felt really out of character to me in the beginning, but I understood that the writers were just intending to show the negative development of Porsche coming from his life spent in the mafia. Still, it was odd, considering Pete went to Vegas just for him, and that's how he repays it. And speaking of Pete, I'm so mad- HOW COME HE DISAPPEARED AND NO ONE BOTHERED TO ASK ABOUT HIM??? Like what sort of boss is Kinn, if he's not even going to ASK about Pete. Porsche, I can forgive, but his best friend went missing, is he not even gonna wonder where he is? It's just out of the place writing there, because in those two episodes, it felt like KinnPorsche were just in their own world, and they didn't give two hoots about what was going around them. And.... The ending... I'm sorry, but Porsche as the head of the minor family is just killing me. It's so really laughable, but at the same time its a very clever ruse for Korn's benefit. Also... Vegas did a complete 360 degree in his personality in the post credits, and I can't say I don't feel anything, that was honestly cute. Almost cute enough to distract me away from- BRINGING PORSCHE's 'MOM' BACK FROM THE DEAD??? *SIgh* feels like a melodramatic soap opera at this point. I don't want to expect a second season because I feel like this 'mom' will drive a wedge between our main couple, which calls for a lot of unnecessary angst. Which is sad, because I really wanted them all lovey-dovey and BAMF together in season 2. Looks like I'm gonna be disappointed. Moving on, the entire cast was splendid, Apo and Bible's acting stood out to me the most. Mile was also good, especially in episode 7, where- *Ahem* Never mind. Build also got me shedding a few tears when Pete resigned from being the main family's bodyguard. In short, everyone was wellcasted. Jeff stole the spotlight for me in the fight sequence in episode 14, Barcode was adorable, but his role wasn't that demanding, though I still wanted to squish him in a hug whenver he cried. The product placements annoyed the crap out of me , ESPECIALLY the bread. I hate bread now, never having it again. It made me cringe so hard. The only good product placement was the Maserati, probably 'cause Mile was sponsoring it. Music was nice, I like all the osts, especially the opening sequence, Jeff really outdid himself with 'Why Don't You Stay' which I cry over everytime I write a fanfic. Barcode's ost was adorable, just like him and it made me smile. The direction and camera work was something you don't see everyday in a thai bl (no offense). It was brilliant and creative, especially using the lighting to portray the mood of the scene, like the green being used for jealousy in episode 7, and the pink and blue represeting love and peace in VegasPete scenes together. Regarding the deviation from the novel, I'd like to say that in most parts the series was definitely better, as seen with how Kinn's development was handled, and how his non-con treatment of Porsche wasn't glossed over (which the novel most definitely did) However, I can't really say the same for VegasPete, but at least the rape scene was removed. I definitely prefer series KinnPorsche rather than Novel, because Novel Kinn was just too annoying and toxic, while Novel Porsche came off whiny and sort of mentally disturbed. However, Novel definitely set up a bigger picture with regards to Korn's plan in the end, while series... I hope I will be wrong when season 2 comes out, but it seems unlikely. For now, I definitely liked season 1, and I'd recommend it to watch.
I was rewatching episode 1 again, and somehow seeing Porsche so playful and sunshiny really squeezes my heart now... especially if I compare him to Present Porsche.
Also.... I wonder if its weird having a kink for hospital sex? I mean the bathroom and the pool scene were iconic... but just imagining Porsche being near death and Kinn going feral over him while he goes and burns the world down for him, and only Porsche can calm him down... just the thought of it makes me feel giddy.
Ok, so i basically popped in here 4 hrs ago, everything was oaly then, now suddenly- WHAT THE FUCK??? LIKE- WHY ARE PEOPLE SENDING DEATH THREATS OVER A FICTIONAL TV SHOW???? At the end of the day, its just for entertainment. Just because we like watching it, doesnt mean we actually want any if that shit happening in real life. So if anyone be sending death threats or wishing RAPE on Mimi and the others, do they even understand the context of what they mean??? I mean- theyre basically doing the same thing which they be calling out VegasPete fandom for doing (which is wrong on so many levels). Mimi doesn't deserve this, honestly. I've popped in to read the comments everyday, and hers always make me smile. She's never said anything mean to anybody, so if she isnt bothering you, why TF would you just bashing her like that? Get a life, idiots. And Mimi, you and the other Vp stans, don't listen to them, tbese trolls need therapy more than any of us or the characters. Its fine to like Vp, its fine if you dont like it, that's okay. But there's absolutely NO need to cross boundaries like that. You don't have any control over anybody's opinion. Just because they like something doesn't mean you need to feel obligated to like it back, and just because you hate something doesn't mean no one else should like it. So... FUCK OFF, BEFORE WE REPORT YOU 4 CYBER CRIME AND ONLINE BULLYING. We love you Mimi ❤
It hit just me randomly.... I wonder if theres gonna be a time skip in between Porsche's confrontation with Korn and the shootout? Cause in the trailer, his hair looks different, and also Chay watching his phone and crying, (his hair was black again) makes me think that both brothers actually ran away. Plus Vegas' dad be like smirking like hes got a big plan and he's been waiting so long to execute it really makes me wonder if there's actually going to be a timeskip...
If an opinion is justifying a controversy such as assault, death threats or any form of aggression then its not…
Mimi why do you keep changing ur pfp???? I'm crying, first I fell for Porsche from your pfp, then for Vegas AGAIN through your pfp, now I couldnt recognise you in the beginnimg cuz u changed ur pfp😭😭
Just an appreciation post, 'cause now we are nearing the last episode: I just wanted,to,say that while I haven't been that active in commenting on this page, I still pop in here religiously everyday, because you all are honestly one of the best fandoms I've ever been in, I really like reading through all of your comments, and thoughts and I'll miss being here once this drama ends.
P.S. Special appreciation post for MimiCat, 'cause I see you everyday on this page, and I really love your jokes and your witty humor, they all cheer me up at the end of a long day.
To the rest of you all, it was fun hanging around here, you guys are truly one of the most mature fandoms out there and I hope we can chat again the same way in season 2.
Porsche sometimes doesnt think. He probably thought Pete needed closure but yeah he could have thought a little…
Me too, i guess we'll probably never see old Porsche again (and its really making me cry, I have ACTUAL tears in my eyes while I'm typing this) but at the same time I don't want him to suddenly go from my most loved character in FANDOM to just another one who ended up being a disappointment. I don't know why... I'm still hoping for him to redeem himself, make him less selfish, or bring out his inner 'selflessness'. Because, in the beginning few episodes, I was in a bad place, and his antics really brought a smile to my face, you could say he was my safe space. So I really don't want to let go now...
I really want to hate Porsche cause what he did with Pete kind of ruined his likeability for me... I couldnt even enjoy the pool scene without feeling conflicted about him, and I still do... while I see where he's coming from, and he wants to find information about his family, his way of selling Pete out was jarring, and sort of out of character, (tbh, I wasn't surprised when he punched Vegas for Pete), but when he went like, 'I brought Pete here, now spill,' I honestly felt punched, cause I didn't expect it from him, even after Big, I felt like maybe they did the mourning shit and funeral in the background so I wasnt really that bothered, but now.... I really don't wanna dislike him, because I really do love him so much, since he's sacrificed so much for his brother, but if he thinks of Pete as his friend, then WHY the hell would he sell him out like that? Granted, maybe he knew Vegas wouldn't pull a dick move with him around, still he saw how scared Pete was, and if anything, according to his usual characterization, he should've been OVER-protective of Pete, but for idk what shit reason, he CHOSE to hand over Pete like that, and I can't get past that. I need him to take a bullet for Pete for all this shit he's putting him through, in the next episode, but he NEEDS the redumption so that we all can forgive him (and so i can have him as my favorite without feeling guilty and conflicted again). Since he cant undo his actions, I'd much rather the writers make him better in the last episode. Any kind of redumption for him to Pete would be fine, but him taking a bullet for Kinn or Chay while the other shit he's pulled gets glossed over wouldn't do much for me. But if I were to defend him, I'd probably think the best excuse would be that he's just too flawed. If the writers intended to make him flawed, then they should have also made him be able to see where he did wrong. If he's gonna make mistakes, he needs to accept them and feel guilty. But he does neither, which makes him somewhat unlikeable instead of flawed. That's my long rant, I hope I didn't offend anybody with my opinions. While I wish he could've stayed the loveable character in the beginning, he had to change because living with the mafia would've rubbed off on him one way or another and that shows a little too well. I miss the old Porsche, the one we had till episode 4.
Porsche sometimes doesnt think. He probably thought Pete needed closure but yeah he could have thought a little…
Mimi, I guess I could say that Im a Porsche apologist, like, as much as I really love him, I do think that it was awfulthe way he sold Pete for information, (not without punching Vegas first) but while it was wrong of him to do so, saying that hes turned into someone who cant see anyone other than Kinn is a bit harsh, boy just went through major trauma ( Pete's was worse, though) and I kinda wish he'd held Vegas at gunpoint 4 information rather than hand over Pete to him, but I think the writers intended to make him that way on purpose, to show that the 'mafia' was rubbing off on him, 'cause he went from being a naive baby we all wanted to hug in the first few episodes to this selfish prick who doesnt give a fuck about anyone else other than his own motive, I'd say its character development (negative) but for some reason, I cant really bring myself to HATE him I wont lie, im just as disappointed by hus actions as you guys are, and Pete honestly doesnt deserve such a friend, but at the moment, I think Porsche.... is just very shaken, not to excuse him for that AWFUL move, but maybe we should wait for him in the next episode to redeem himself to everyone ( I think he will). Maybe im biased, but everytime I see him, since episode 9 especially, hes lost his spark, the sensitivity he had in the first few episodes, and after episode 11, his aura just sort of kept dimming, so I dont understamd why the writers had to go ruin his likeability.... cause him being THAT insensitive goes out of his character... As much as I wish I could defend him, he gives me no reason to, and as much as I wish I could dislike him, I'm not able to do that either, so seeing everyone else (rightfully) expressing dislike for his actions makes me sort of miserable, but I cant fault them for it. Sorry for this long rant, but I just delt sad to see my favorite character ruining his likeability so badly.
Guys, I kinda made up an imaginary scenario in my head for the next episode, like, what if the shootout happens after Pete escapes from Vegas, and Vegas in his blind fury targets Kinn but Porsche takes the bullet and Pete sees that? I mean- then it'd be really angsty for Pete, 'cause then he'll be torn between his loyalty to the main family, and his love for Vegas, and the worst part would be that Vegas sort of accidentally shot his best friend, so it'd be kind of a betrayal for him to choose Vegas after that. Just an imaginary thought scenario though.... maybe I should turn it into a fanfiction.
However I want Vegas to lead, because while I adore Porsche (he remains my fav and he came through for Kinn in the last episode), he can barely fend for himself, so how tf is he expected to lead a whole family??? Meanwhile Vegas and Pete being BAMF togetherrrr???? PLEASEEEE
While most people might find Vegas as their favorite, my own personal pick would be Porsche. I mean- I don't even know where to start; in the novel he came off quite jaded, and somewhat irritating (not in the good way), however, I'm glad that they made his character much more entertaining in the show, and despite what others say, he has been the one who had the most character development, which is to say, negative in contrast to Kinn, who had the positive arc. We saw Kinn go from an arrogant mafia boss with trust issues, to a lover who'd quite literally do anything for Porsche, while trying to solve those trust issues as well. Porsche on the other hand started out somewhat streetsmart, but still an adorable ball of sunshine who gave too much second hand embarrassment. The highlight of his character is the love and adoration he has for his little brother, I mean- dude just joined the MAFIA for him, what more could one want? That aside, we saw his development from episode 4, and how broken he was after it, He is a simple and forgiving person, and it is proved again and again, first with Kinn, Vegas, and then Korn., that is his one trait that remains consistent. As much as I love him, some of his decisions were very questioning as seen in the later episodes, I don't know whether they were due to bad characterization in general, or the fact that the writers intended to show how the mafia rubbed off on him By the end of the show, he'd also become hardened, cunning, and extremely selfish. One of his decisions stood out to me was one coonected with Pete. It marked one of the first times he'd completely disregarded his value for relationships, and it wouldn't be wrong to say that now he honestly doesn't care about anyone other than Kinn and Chay, he'd probably kill for them or worse. He does what he wants, for his own purpose, and thats what he's become. Apo Nnattawin played the crap out of him in my opinion, and the chemistry he shares with his onscreen partner Mile is unmatched. The best part of his performance for me were in episode 4 , episode 6 and episode 7. He owned his character and no one else could've played him better.
Also, I understand the hype around VegasPete, and while I do like them to some extent, I mostly find myself indifferent to them, they don't excite me as much as the main couple does, but the actors, especially Bible, hold their own quite well. I won't comment more on Build, but his chemistry with his onscreen partner was brilliant, and his acting packed a gut punch (even for an indifferent person like me). I think that maybe I didn't click with them much was due to the non consensual (disturbing) sequence being glossed over, like- I keep wondering how the hell do you want to make out with someone who electrocuted your balls the day before. I like the Pete-heals-Vegas approach, but it doesn't do much for me, I guess.
I think the story could've been written a bit better, especially the way that some characters behaved, it was odd to see Kinnporsche being all cuddly while Big's sacrifice got ignored and shoved under a rug. Then we got a tiny piece of KimChay, with hardly any personality to Kim, like why did he ever ghost Chay like that, and why did he act as if he wanted Chay back so randomly in the end? Also, what was the whole point of Kim snooping around for Porsche's backstory if he never revealed it? If it is to be shown in the next season, then they should've dropped some hints, because all I can say is that it looks a lot like the writers just needed an excuse for Kim to meet Chay as a plot device. Also, Porsche just selling Pete off to Vegas like that disturbed and disappointed me, it felt really out of character to me in the beginning, but I understood that the writers were just intending to show the negative development of Porsche coming from his life spent in the mafia. Still, it was odd, considering Pete went to Vegas just for him, and that's how he repays it. And speaking of Pete, I'm so mad- HOW COME HE DISAPPEARED AND NO ONE BOTHERED TO ASK ABOUT HIM??? Like what sort of boss is Kinn, if he's not even going to ASK about Pete. Porsche, I can forgive, but his best friend went missing, is he not even gonna wonder where he is? It's just out of the place writing there, because in those two episodes, it felt like KinnPorsche were just in their own world, and they didn't give two hoots about what was going around them. And.... The ending...
I'm sorry, but Porsche as the head of the minor family is just killing me. It's so really laughable, but at the same time its a very clever ruse for Korn's benefit.
Also... Vegas did a complete 360 degree in his personality in the post credits, and I can't say I don't feel anything, that was honestly cute.
Almost cute enough to distract me away from- BRINGING PORSCHE's 'MOM' BACK FROM THE DEAD???
*SIgh* feels like a melodramatic soap opera at this point. I don't want to expect a second season because I feel like this 'mom' will drive a wedge between our main couple, which calls for a lot of unnecessary angst. Which is sad, because I really wanted them all lovey-dovey and BAMF together in season 2.
Looks like I'm gonna be disappointed.
Moving on, the entire cast was splendid, Apo and Bible's acting stood out to me the most. Mile was also good, especially in episode 7, where- *Ahem* Never mind. Build also got me shedding a few tears when Pete resigned from being the main family's bodyguard. In short, everyone was wellcasted. Jeff stole the spotlight for me in the fight sequence in episode 14, Barcode was adorable, but his role wasn't that demanding, though I still wanted to squish him in a hug whenver he cried.
The product placements annoyed the crap out of me , ESPECIALLY the bread. I hate bread now, never having it again. It made me cringe so hard. The only good product placement was the Maserati, probably 'cause Mile was sponsoring it.
Music was nice, I like all the osts, especially the opening sequence, Jeff really outdid himself with 'Why Don't You Stay' which I cry over everytime I write a fanfic. Barcode's ost was adorable, just like him and it made me smile.
The direction and camera work was something you don't see everyday in a thai bl (no offense). It was brilliant and creative, especially using the lighting to portray the mood of the scene, like the green being used for jealousy in episode 7, and the pink and blue represeting love and peace in VegasPete scenes together.
Regarding the deviation from the novel, I'd like to say that in most parts the series was definitely better, as seen with how Kinn's development was handled, and how his non-con treatment of Porsche wasn't glossed over (which the novel most definitely did) However, I can't really say the same for VegasPete, but at least the rape scene was removed. I definitely prefer series KinnPorsche rather than Novel, because Novel Kinn was just too annoying and toxic, while Novel Porsche came off whiny and sort of mentally disturbed. However, Novel definitely set up a bigger picture with regards to Korn's plan in the end, while series...
I hope I will be wrong when season 2 comes out, but it seems unlikely. For now, I definitely liked season 1, and I'd recommend it to watch.
Also.... I wonder if its weird having a kink for hospital sex? I mean the bathroom and the pool scene were iconic... but just imagining Porsche being near death and Kinn going feral over him while he goes and burns the world down for him, and only Porsche can calm him down... just the thought of it makes me feel giddy.
I found this thread analyzing the note Porsche left for Kinn and I think it sort of makes sense
Mimi doesn't deserve this, honestly. I've popped in to read the comments everyday, and hers always make me smile. She's never said anything mean to anybody, so if she isnt bothering you, why TF would you just bashing her like that? Get a life, idiots. And Mimi, you and the other Vp stans, don't listen to them, tbese trolls need therapy more than any of us or the characters. Its fine to like Vp, its fine if you dont like it, that's okay. But there's absolutely NO need to cross boundaries like that. You don't have any control over anybody's opinion. Just because they like something doesn't mean you need to feel obligated to like it back, and just because you hate something doesn't mean no one else should like it. So... FUCK OFF, BEFORE WE REPORT YOU 4 CYBER CRIME AND ONLINE BULLYING.
We love you Mimi ❤
I just wanted,to,say that while I haven't been that active in commenting on this page, I still pop in here religiously everyday, because you all are honestly one of the best fandoms I've ever been in, I really like reading through all of your comments, and thoughts and I'll miss being here once this drama ends.
P.S. Special appreciation post for MimiCat, 'cause I see you everyday on this page, and I really love your jokes and your witty humor, they all cheer me up at the end of a long day.
To the rest of you all, it was fun hanging around here, you guys are truly one of the most mature fandoms out there and I hope we can chat again the same way in season 2.
But if I were to defend him, I'd probably think the best excuse would be that he's just too flawed. If the writers intended to make him flawed, then they should have also made him be able to see where he did wrong. If he's gonna make mistakes, he needs to accept them and feel guilty. But he does neither, which makes him somewhat unlikeable instead of flawed.
That's my long rant, I hope I didn't offend anybody with my opinions. While I wish he could've stayed the loveable character in the beginning, he had to change because living with the mafia would've rubbed off on him one way or another and that shows a little too well.
I miss the old Porsche, the one we had till episode 4.
Sorry for this long rant, but I just delt sad to see my favorite character ruining his likeability so badly.
Just an imaginary thought scenario though.... maybe I should turn it into a fanfiction.