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You don't hate yaoi because it depicts gay sexual content , of course not because you're not homophobic you hate it because it is written by women for women. That was your own definition of yaoi. It consists of stereotypes they've made up about gay men. You think it's weird that women are obsessed with gay men and enforce gender roles on them. A lot of women who read them are homophobic. All true. But that's not all these stories are, sure call out the ones that are and leave the bad reviews but you seem to paint everyone that watches them with the same brush and want to gatekeep who writes these stories and who enjoys them. My first comment was just stating facts and you very quickly jumped into assumptions about what kind of person I am and my sexual identity when one thing shouldn't have anything to do the with other.

A fujoshi girl who is obsessed with yaoi asking you who is the man or the woman in your relationship has nothing to do with yaoi itself, I've known people who have never seen yaoi and they have asked me that question so many times. These ideas exist in society already so of course they'll find their way into fiction. Also not only straight girls read them, gay men, lesbian women read them too it appeals in different ways.


Literally I haven't seen one single person condone the abuse, violence and obsession depicted in addicted heroine. That is weird and not normal! But the story itself is cute and appealing , and could have done without all of that nonsense. Unless you're a 12 year old who thinks this is how all gay relationships are, you can discern fiction from reality. If you can't and this is the only reason you like the series it's because you already hold these ideas yourself in which case reconsider your life lol

The representation is bad because of who is writing it no one is saying it's good or it can't be better. I want better representation too and I really look for BL stories that depict positive gay relationships. This was released in 2016 so it's good to see how BLs have progressed since then and are giving less and less toxicity. But I won't be shaming people for what they like which is mainly just stories that depict BL or sexual/ romantic gay content. I think what people find most appealing are the emotional scenes, balanced power dynamics and just that it's written by women.

I think we agree that yaoi is not the problem, its the ideas and stereotypes often depicted in them

The ML is really quite crazy and I kept expecting him to turn increasingly violent and psychotic by the end. I honestly thought this was going to end badly with either one or both of them dead. Definitely not a healthy relationship but the thing is both leads are as bad as each other so it's probably the best that they end up together.

Otherwise I really enjoyed the acting of all of the them. And there's a certain uninhibition that I didn't realised could exist in a Chinese BL because all the other ones I've seen have been coded due to censorship

Okay that's where I completely disagree with you. If you think yaoi shouldn't exist then all sexually explicit content regardless of orientation should not exist and that's fine if that's your viewpoint but at least we know where you stand. Cis het women should not be shamed for enjoying what is basically gay porn when cishet men have enjoyed lesbian porn since the beginning of time and no one shames them for it. I also don't think the appeal is about fetishizing gay men (it's impossible because it can never translate into real life it remains within the imagination. A straight woman can never be sexual with a gay man and I don't think they watch it because they want to), I think it's about what is lacking in straight sexually explicit content that's mainly geared towards cis het men but that's a whole other conversation.

I come from a country where something like yaoi or even BL is outrageous to even talk about let alone exist. So for you to say it shouldn't exist , for all it's good and bad is just privilege tbh. So what if straight women are obsessed with BL, they're seeing stories being told that are different from what they've been used to. I watch them too , clearly so do you and there are some that I can barely stomach and would naturally skip but that is the case in any genre people shouldn't be shamed for what they enjoy when they're clearly not harming anyone that is just shitty. I don't know why there is just as much abuse and violence in these stories as there are sweet and tender moments but I'm aware this is a fact of the genre even though this is changing more and more these days. What I don't understand is other than it making you uncomfortable how is it harming gay peopel? Personally when I want queer content that addresses queerness in a realistic way I can go look for stories written by queer people I don't go to a cishet woman to show me that.

You say they are obsessed with top and bottom, I don't like it either but I don't see many gay men in these comments talking about how uncomfortable it makes them because sadly that's how it is in reality too. Everyone gay or straight is obsessed with heteronomativity there are terms like top, bottom, switch etc for a reason deal with it but a 30 mins per episode fluff to escape reality is not that serious, I take what I can and avoid what I can't take.


I have no issue with you leaving a bad review on something you watched and didn't like but gatekeeping, acting that you're better than everyone else who watched it and enjoyed it for whatever reason even ignorance. And to judge anyone's morals or queerness based on that, telling me I should know better is just out of line.

Also what's with the hating on yaoi. Most BLs are based off of yaoi manga or novels including this one 😂 If you really hate this kind of genre or material, you're in the entirely wrong place lol

It's a shame really. I wonder if this show contributed to the ban. I hear the show was really popular at the time and got a lot of attention and the main actors were affected by all the attention for some time

No I'm a queer woman. And I'm not referring to the toxicity, I wish BLs were less toxic. What I'm referring to are the comment about the story being written by a cis het woman which I was agreeing with you on, BLs are typically written by cis het women, they are targeted towards cos het women so it's unavoidable that the blueprint will follow what appeals to cis het women. So if you're looking for healthy realistic portrayals of queer relationships you would rarely find them here. I'm an adult woman who can distinguish what I'm watching and has cognitive dissonance to not confuse fiction with reality. I mainly watch them for fluff. Now there's no reason for the aggression or assumptions about who I am or what I enjoy, I'm literally a stranger on the internet and you can't even begin to understand the type of person I am just from one comment

You basically just described pretty much most of all BLs , that's even like the definition of the genre. It's not meant to be healthy or realistic, the series is called Addicted Heroine for Christ's sakes you're not meant to take this as a blueprint of a positive portrayal of a good relationship

Thank you for bringing this story to life in such a beautiful way.