I never thought I would see ´ useless hetero love ´in the same sentence.
Almost all Kdramas are "straight" for the reasons you mentioned. The "straight" identity or lifestyle is the go-to object of fetishization and perverse fantasies. Actors are FORCED to act "straight" to please their horny, homophobic fans, or they'd lose their popularity and steady jobs. Do you have anything to say about that?
"... the way they force straight actors to “act a little sexual” (i.e The Devil’s Judge) just for fan service is fetishizing at its finest"
Why are you assuming the sexuality of the actors? Even if they were "straight," acting is fanservice. Actors are supposed to act like something they are not to please their fans. They act like judges, when they are not judges. They act like siblings, when they are not siblings. They act like partners, when they are not partners. They act "straight," when they are not "straight." They should be able to act gay to please their fans. It's not fetishization. It's their job
"... even if they’re siblings"
The Vincenzo brothers are legal adults. There's nothing wrong with gay incest between adults. There are a lot of incestuous "straight" stories. From Scarlet Heart Ryeo and Kissing Cousin (Kdrama) to Oreimo and Yosuga no Sora (Anime) where blood brothers and sisters or blood cousins do the unthinkable. They are inappropriate and popular. You only open your mouths when the incest is gay
"It's disgusting and weird"
It's disgusting and weird to shame gay ships, roles or fanservice
For Pete's sake, stop throwing around the word "fetishization." Fetishization is a meaningless buzzword. A homophobic ruse to push anything that's not "straight" back into the closet
"Forcing two clearly straight male character to have sexual chemistry..."
Fictional characters are not "clearly straight" or "clearly gay." They have whatever sexuality we want them to have. And that sexuality is not static or fixed. Authors may want the characters to canonically identify as "straight." But the same characters can be non-canonically gay in an alternate fictional universe
TL;DR People FORCE actors or fictional characters to "have chemistry" with their opposite gender. We should FORCE actors or fictional characters to have chemistry with their same gender to get even
You want to FORCE us not to ship actors or male characters. It's funny you have something against "forcing"
It says so in my gay bible that "thou shalt be a homo fetishizer and proud" and "thou shalt not be straight." The gay gods want us to ship all actors and male characters, their "straight" identities be damned. That's what I will do
Cute little series but it is very difficult for me to see it as a bl. To be honest it is more of a bromance not…
Unless by bromance, you mean slight gay romance, it's not just a bromance. The gay stares were a dead giveaway
This is an oblivious-idiots-in-love kind of BL where the characters attain the prominence and maturity they need to confess, fucking finally. The romance is all about the anticipation, longing and yearning
The waiting and waiting (and waiting), combined with the gay stares and are-they-flirting-or-am-I-imagining-it questions that keep us up at night, make everything sweeter in the end
"Suh Ye Chan calls Seon Yul bro the whole time"
It's common for men to call the older men they are attracted to "hyung." My Korean gay friends told me it's sexy. The meaning of "oppa" (older brother) changed over time. It can mean more than an older brother. "Hyung" can also change to mean a sweet term of endearment
After Chan and Yul started dating, "hyung" wasn't a "brother from another mother" anymore. It was a quirky couple nickname, like "baby"
Putting aside some plot things feeling under-developed, the age + maturity gap was a big turn off for me. Like…
I'm not put off by the age gap. Chan is an adult. 18 was the age at which he was deemed mentally capable of driving, voting and giving consent to sexual activities. It's okay for him to date a 26-year-old man
At 19, he had his first drink, like an adult. He has a full-time job and works on the farms owned and operated by his family, like an adult. He encouraged Yul to pursue a music career and went the extra mile to make a long-distance relationship work, like an adult
Yul was right to love and date him. Chan is hard-working, understanding, supportive and honest. He doesn't beat around the bush. He knew what he wants, and what Yul wants, when Yul put up emotional walls. He's a walking green flag. If that's childish or immature, then children are more mature than adults. We should take notes lol
The epilogue of ASTCO was entirely made up for the drama and it was a hot mess. I don't think those kids had any…
I've been watching Gentleman Jack to fill the void. It's a story about Anne Lister, a lesbian from the 1800s. She was an actual person. The producers decoded her diary to show the steamy side of Victorian lesbianism, so that might interest you
The epilogue of ASTCO was entirely made up for the drama and it was a hot mess. I don't think those kids had any…
I would love to see BL and GL worlds collide
As long as it's gay, I'm okay with the story. "Straight" media gets to be narrow and all about "straight" identifying people. Stories that are all about gay men and/or women should exist to center the everyday joys and triumphs of the gay experience
The epilogue of ASTCO was entirely made up for the drama and it was a hot mess. I don't think those kids had any…
"... there's a whole plethora of people from the alphabet soup left out of that"
Because BLs are about men loving men. Not men who identify as women. Not women who identify as men. Not people who identify as non-binary, gender queer or genderless entities. Most of the letters in the alphabet soup are gender identities. Not sexualities. And BLs have no reason to include them
BLs can include asexual men, if that's what you're talking about. An asexual man is capable of forming romantic relationships with men
The epilogue of ASTCO was entirely made up for the drama and it was a hot mess. I don't think those kids had any…
As if "straight" media isn't the commodification of women or their sexuality
Money has transformed human societies. Everything is commodified, even funerals. The people who have a problem with BLs "commodifying gay men" should ban "straight" media first
I believe in ASTCO it was more complicated as both mains are from the same group. The no kiss policy was implemented…
"And if they knew there was going to be awkwardness, they shouldn't have acted in a bl. They could've done a straight drama with different female love interests"
I'm not a fan of this all-or-nothing thinking. "Do it right, or don't do it at all" is the type of thinking that fucked me up and interfered with my ability to get things done. I wouldn't wish that on idols
Let them appear in BLs. Less popular idols appearing in gay stories, when they would have made it big in "straight" stories, tells me that they care less about quantity, and more about quality. They knew they would have to survive a homophobic backlash. Their career has only just begun, and they still took a career risk. They had no stable fandoms to support them. The backlash could have gotten out of hand, and they could have lost it all
The BL world should not abandon or disown these brave men. They did what they could, with what they had. And they would have done better, if it weren't for their conservative country that holds them back from reaching their full potential
Homophobia is "alive" and well in the Western countries that legalized gay marriage. Most Westerners pee in their…
Speculation is innate to all experience and thinking. And sexuality is seen as a public matter. Idols and non-idols alike are speculated to be "straight" until they come out, for example. It's none of anyone's business who they want to sleep with, but people don't understand that. They want idols to be "straight." Speculations that idols are something other than "straight" shouldn't warrant significant concern
There are "bad" apples, fans who go overboard, in every fandom. Why deny ourselves the joy of BLs, because of those "bad" apples? There would be no drama, movie, game, comic, etc, if producers feared them
Please, don't apologize. English isn't my first language, and I can understand you just fine
I blocked because people like you have the ability to create drama out of absolutely nothing. This proves it
"... the way they force straight actors to “act a little sexual” (i.e The Devil’s Judge) just for fan service is fetishizing at its finest"
Why are you assuming the sexuality of the actors? Even if they were "straight," acting is fanservice. Actors are supposed to act like something they are not to please their fans. They act like judges, when they are not judges. They act like siblings, when they are not siblings. They act like partners, when they are not partners. They act "straight," when they are not "straight." They should be able to act gay to please their fans. It's not fetishization. It's their job
"... even if they’re siblings"
The Vincenzo brothers are legal adults. There's nothing wrong with gay incest between adults. There are a lot of incestuous "straight" stories. From Scarlet Heart Ryeo and Kissing Cousin (Kdrama) to Oreimo and Yosuga no Sora (Anime) where blood brothers and sisters or blood cousins do the unthinkable. They are inappropriate and popular. You only open your mouths when the incest is gay
"It's disgusting and weird"
It's disgusting and weird to shame gay ships, roles or fanservice
For Pete's sake, stop throwing around the word "fetishization." Fetishization is a meaningless buzzword. A homophobic ruse to push anything that's not "straight" back into the closet
"Forcing two clearly straight male character to have sexual chemistry..."
Fictional characters are not "clearly straight" or "clearly gay." They have whatever sexuality we want them to have. And that sexuality is not static or fixed. Authors may want the characters to canonically identify as "straight." But the same characters can be non-canonically gay in an alternate fictional universe
TL;DR People FORCE actors or fictional characters to "have chemistry" with their opposite gender. We should FORCE actors or fictional characters to have chemistry with their same gender to get even
You want to FORCE us not to ship actors or male characters. It's funny you have something against "forcing"
It says so in my gay bible that "thou shalt be a homo fetishizer and proud" and "thou shalt not be straight." The gay gods want us to ship all actors and male characters, their "straight" identities be damned. That's what I will do
If you're going to lie, at least make it believable
This is an oblivious-idiots-in-love kind of BL where the characters attain the prominence and maturity they need to confess, fucking finally. The romance is all about the anticipation, longing and yearning
The waiting and waiting (and waiting), combined with the gay stares and are-they-flirting-or-am-I-imagining-it questions that keep us up at night, make everything sweeter in the end
"Suh Ye Chan calls Seon Yul bro the whole time"
It's common for men to call the older men they are attracted to "hyung." My Korean gay friends told me it's sexy. The meaning of "oppa" (older brother) changed over time. It can mean more than an older brother. "Hyung" can also change to mean a sweet term of endearment
After Chan and Yul started dating, "hyung" wasn't a "brother from another mother" anymore. It was a quirky couple nickname, like "baby"
Please don't say that 🥺 I want them to be together forever
At 19, he had his first drink, like an adult. He has a full-time job and works on the farms owned and operated by his family, like an adult. He encouraged Yul to pursue a music career and went the extra mile to make a long-distance relationship work, like an adult
Yul was right to love and date him. Chan is hard-working, understanding, supportive and honest. He doesn't beat around the bush. He knew what he wants, and what Yul wants, when Yul put up emotional walls. He's a walking green flag. If that's childish or immature, then children are more mature than adults. We should take notes lol
I'm proud of the idols who appeared in BLs. They paved the gay
As long as it's gay, I'm okay with the story. "Straight" media gets to be narrow and all about "straight" identifying people. Stories that are all about gay men and/or women should exist to center the everyday joys and triumphs of the gay experience
Because BLs are about men loving men. Not men who identify as women. Not women who identify as men. Not people who identify as non-binary, gender queer or genderless entities. Most of the letters in the alphabet soup are gender identities. Not sexualities. And BLs have no reason to include them
BLs can include asexual men, if that's what you're talking about. An asexual man is capable of forming romantic relationships with men
Money has transformed human societies. Everything is commodified, even funerals. The people who have a problem with BLs "commodifying gay men" should ban "straight" media first
I'm not a fan of this all-or-nothing thinking. "Do it right, or don't do it at all" is the type of thinking that fucked me up and interfered with my ability to get things done. I wouldn't wish that on idols
Let them appear in BLs. Less popular idols appearing in gay stories, when they would have made it big in "straight" stories, tells me that they care less about quantity, and more about quality. They knew they would have to survive a homophobic backlash. Their career has only just begun, and they still took a career risk. They had no stable fandoms to support them. The backlash could have gotten out of hand, and they could have lost it all
The BL world should not abandon or disown these brave men. They did what they could, with what they had. And they would have done better, if it weren't for their conservative country that holds them back from reaching their full potential
There are "bad" apples, fans who go overboard, in every fandom. Why deny ourselves the joy of BLs, because of those "bad" apples? There would be no drama, movie, game, comic, etc, if producers feared them
Please, don't apologize. English isn't my first language, and I can understand you just fine