Imo the best case scenario for fans of this pair is that we see one sided feelings, from his side. Similar to…
"But also, why keep hoping/asking for romance in a thriller when you can just ship anything regardless of if romantic feelings are canon?"
That's why people shouldn't be up in arms about me shipping male or female characters, even if they never met or there were no canon feelings between them
I'm shipping San Young with the feminine "ghost" that possessed her and Hong Sae with Hae Sang
And what do you want us to do about that. I could understand someone not wanting your reviews flooding their screen.…
Thank you! I wasn't always the type to block. But people like that fed on my willingness to listen and care for them, every single time. They are emotional vampires that have nothing good to say and suck the positive energy out of us to fuel their relentless hunger for negativity. We don't have to be around them. It's okay to block, and I learnt that the hard way
You could log out to see the response. It's not mature to ask someone else to do the work for you I blocked because…
You brought nothing to the table, and you expect a seat? You said the story was boring and "dross," whatever that means. That's all you said. You weren't open to discussing your position or adapting it when presented with other perspectives, let's not kid ourselves here
Are you truly responding to the situation in an age-appropriate, adult-like manner? An adult wouldn't do this, would they? They wouldn't create a storm and get upset that it rains
The adult thing to do, sometimes, is to walk away and use the block button. It's there for a reason
I never thought I would see ´ useless hetero love ´in the same sentence.
Almost all Kdramas are "straight" for the reasons you mentioned. The "straight" identity or lifestyle is the go-to object of fetishization and perverse fantasies. Actors are FORCED to act "straight" to please their horny, homophobic fans, or they'd lose their popularity and steady jobs. Do you have anything to say about that?
"... the way they force straight actors to “act a little sexual” (i.e The Devil’s Judge) just for fan service is fetishizing at its finest"
Why are you assuming the sexuality of the actors? Even if they were "straight," acting is fanservice. Actors are supposed to act like something they are not to please their fans. They act like judges, when they are not judges. They act like siblings, when they are not siblings. They act like partners, when they are not partners. They act "straight," when they are not "straight." They should be able to act gay to please their fans. It's not fetishization. It's their job
"... even if they’re siblings"
The Vincenzo brothers are legal adults. There's nothing wrong with gay incest between adults. There are a lot of incestuous "straight" stories. From Scarlet Heart Ryeo and Kissing Cousin (Kdrama) to Oreimo and Yosuga no Sora (Anime) where blood brothers and sisters or blood cousins do the unthinkable. They are inappropriate and popular. You only open your mouths when the incest is gay
"It's disgusting and weird"
It's disgusting and weird to shame gay ships, roles or fanservice
For Pete's sake, stop throwing around the word "fetishization." Fetishization is a meaningless buzzword. A homophobic ruse to push anything that's not "straight" back into the closet
"Forcing two clearly straight male character to have sexual chemistry..."
Fictional characters are not "clearly straight" or "clearly gay." They have whatever sexuality we want them to have. And that sexuality is not static or fixed. Authors may want the characters to canonically identify as "straight." But the same characters can be non-canonically gay in an alternate fictional universe
TL;DR People FORCE actors or fictional characters to "have chemistry" with their opposite gender. We should FORCE actors or fictional characters to have chemistry with their same gender to get even
You want to FORCE us not to ship actors or male characters. It's funny you have something against "forcing"
It says so in my gay bible that "thou shalt be a homo fetishizer and proud" and "thou shalt not be straight." The gay gods want us to ship all actors and male characters, their "straight" identities be damned. That's what I will do
Cute little series but it is very difficult for me to see it as a bl. To be honest it is more of a bromance not…
Unless by bromance, you mean slight gay romance, it's not just a bromance. The gay stares were a dead giveaway
This is an oblivious-idiots-in-love kind of BL where the characters attain the prominence and maturity they need to confess, fucking finally. The romance is all about the anticipation, longing and yearning
The waiting and waiting (and waiting), combined with the gay stares and are-they-flirting-or-am-I-imagining-it questions that keep us up at night, make everything sweeter in the end
"Suh Ye Chan calls Seon Yul bro the whole time"
It's common for men to call the older men they are attracted to "hyung." My Korean gay friends told me it's sexy. The meaning of "oppa" (older brother) changed over time. It can mean more than an older brother. "Hyung" can also change to mean a sweet term of endearment
After Chan and Yul started dating, "hyung" wasn't a "brother from another mother" anymore. It was a quirky couple nickname, like "baby"
Putting aside some plot things feeling under-developed, the age + maturity gap was a big turn off for me. Like…
I'm not put off by the age gap. Chan is an adult. 18 was the age at which he was deemed mentally capable of driving, voting and giving consent to sexual activities. It's okay for him to date a 26-year-old man
At 19, he had his first drink, like an adult. He has a full-time job and works on the farms owned and operated by his family, like an adult. He encouraged Yul to pursue a music career and went the extra mile to make a long-distance relationship work, like an adult
Yul was right to love and date him. Chan is hard-working, understanding, supportive and honest. He doesn't beat around the bush. He knew what he wants, and what Yul wants, when Yul put up emotional walls. He's a walking green flag. If that's childish or immature, then children are more mature than adults. We should take notes lol
The epilogue of ASTCO was entirely made up for the drama and it was a hot mess. I don't think those kids had any…
I've been watching Gentleman Jack to fill the void. It's a story about Anne Lister, a lesbian from the 1800s. She was an actual person. The producers decoded her diary to show the steamy side of Victorian lesbianism, so that might interest you
They have zero "chemistry." The only person KTR or SY has great chemistry with is herself
That's why people shouldn't be up in arms about me shipping male or female characters, even if they never met or there were no canon feelings between them
I'm shipping San Young with the feminine "ghost" that possessed her and Hong Sae with Hae Sang
Are you truly responding to the situation in an age-appropriate, adult-like manner? An adult wouldn't do this, would they? They wouldn't create a storm and get upset that it rains
The adult thing to do, sometimes, is to walk away and use the block button. It's there for a reason
I blocked because people like you have the ability to create drama out of absolutely nothing. This proves it
"... the way they force straight actors to “act a little sexual” (i.e The Devil’s Judge) just for fan service is fetishizing at its finest"
Why are you assuming the sexuality of the actors? Even if they were "straight," acting is fanservice. Actors are supposed to act like something they are not to please their fans. They act like judges, when they are not judges. They act like siblings, when they are not siblings. They act like partners, when they are not partners. They act "straight," when they are not "straight." They should be able to act gay to please their fans. It's not fetishization. It's their job
"... even if they’re siblings"
The Vincenzo brothers are legal adults. There's nothing wrong with gay incest between adults. There are a lot of incestuous "straight" stories. From Scarlet Heart Ryeo and Kissing Cousin (Kdrama) to Oreimo and Yosuga no Sora (Anime) where blood brothers and sisters or blood cousins do the unthinkable. They are inappropriate and popular. You only open your mouths when the incest is gay
"It's disgusting and weird"
It's disgusting and weird to shame gay ships, roles or fanservice
For Pete's sake, stop throwing around the word "fetishization." Fetishization is a meaningless buzzword. A homophobic ruse to push anything that's not "straight" back into the closet
"Forcing two clearly straight male character to have sexual chemistry..."
Fictional characters are not "clearly straight" or "clearly gay." They have whatever sexuality we want them to have. And that sexuality is not static or fixed. Authors may want the characters to canonically identify as "straight." But the same characters can be non-canonically gay in an alternate fictional universe
TL;DR People FORCE actors or fictional characters to "have chemistry" with their opposite gender. We should FORCE actors or fictional characters to have chemistry with their same gender to get even
You want to FORCE us not to ship actors or male characters. It's funny you have something against "forcing"
It says so in my gay bible that "thou shalt be a homo fetishizer and proud" and "thou shalt not be straight." The gay gods want us to ship all actors and male characters, their "straight" identities be damned. That's what I will do
If you're going to lie, at least make it believable
This is an oblivious-idiots-in-love kind of BL where the characters attain the prominence and maturity they need to confess, fucking finally. The romance is all about the anticipation, longing and yearning
The waiting and waiting (and waiting), combined with the gay stares and are-they-flirting-or-am-I-imagining-it questions that keep us up at night, make everything sweeter in the end
"Suh Ye Chan calls Seon Yul bro the whole time"
It's common for men to call the older men they are attracted to "hyung." My Korean gay friends told me it's sexy. The meaning of "oppa" (older brother) changed over time. It can mean more than an older brother. "Hyung" can also change to mean a sweet term of endearment
After Chan and Yul started dating, "hyung" wasn't a "brother from another mother" anymore. It was a quirky couple nickname, like "baby"
Please don't say that 🥺 I want them to be together forever
At 19, he had his first drink, like an adult. He has a full-time job and works on the farms owned and operated by his family, like an adult. He encouraged Yul to pursue a music career and went the extra mile to make a long-distance relationship work, like an adult
Yul was right to love and date him. Chan is hard-working, understanding, supportive and honest. He doesn't beat around the bush. He knew what he wants, and what Yul wants, when Yul put up emotional walls. He's a walking green flag. If that's childish or immature, then children are more mature than adults. We should take notes lol
I'm proud of the idols who appeared in BLs. They paved the gay