Every time I see the rating of this drama, I feel like the general taste of the audience is declining.It seems…
That take feels a bit overly absolutist. Saying audience taste is “declining” just because a drama is popular assumes there’s only one correct way to judge quality. In reality, people watch for different reasons some want depth and layered storytelling, others just want something fun, visually appealing, or easy to enjoy after a long day. With how many dramas are out there, it’s natural that once you’ve seen a lot, plots start to feel repetitive anyway, so acting, chemistry, and overall delivery like IU’s performance in When Life Gives You Tangerines become the real differentiators, not just whether the story is “new.”
Comparing everything to heavier shows like Nirvana in Fire also isn’t entirely fair because not every drama is trying to achieve that level of depth. Some are meant to be light, cliché, even predictable and still enjoyable. There’s nothing wrong with watching for the “giggles,” the visuals, or simply because it’s entertaining. Not every viewing experience needs to be meaningful or critically “worthy,” especially when, at the end of the day, people are just trying to unwind. Life itself is already stressful enough there’s no need to turn watching dramas into another standard to meet.
At the end of the day, it really just comes down to preference. If a drama is fun, then it’s worth watching if not, just move on. There’s so much content available that criticizing other people’s taste feels pointless. Everyone has their own way of enjoying things, and that doesn’t need validation or comparison to something else
Hmmm i love the plot and the novel but somehow it feel abit rush and fragmented? They change alot i know but that create more question lot of plot points are missing or rather they chage it to make, Chang Yu more capable without any much build up. As her character has alot of doubt although strong. Xie Zheng came and save her in the fight and they will be split awhile and all. Hmmmm seem like missing a whole fight.
Like hmmmmm Xie Zheng is capable and OP indeed but there is not much of him besiede face card I love the leads tgt but idk why after Li An all the plot feel choppy. Everything in Li An was so nice and smooth.
Haters, lovers, all in between great discussion here its all different opinion and everyone has their own opinion.
I never so passionately typed in here before and might never will until another drama that I really really love like this which is really rare for me who watch so many and find all of them almost the same in the end but for now I will go savor the ending again. Its been a fun and emotional journey this drama is.
Bai Jingting and Zhang Ruonan, for portraying the love between Sang Yan and Wen Yifan so perfectly. Nailed their role and more!. Could never see anyone else for the role beside you too.
For someone who dislike that you rated it higher than me objectively in my brain hahaha. I did rate it 10/10 for how everything concluded.
To me I love the change but the early part of the grandpa although was needed for our 2nd leads and MCY changes are rather too draggy. In my head is 8/10 or 8.5/10 hahaha. SO you rating is even better than mine and I liked the plot changes hahaha.
An 8.9 for this masterpiece is too less.... I wish we get the ratings even higher!
Honestly I love this drama but every drama has it flaws but how they ramp the story to deviate which there are debate but how they concluded the story. Is beautiful.
MY objective one is 8/10 bsc there are flaws BUT i rate it 10/10 The leads and the last few EP are so well done all the emotion and concluding the story beautifully not just happy but is just a wonder experience. The lead whenever on screen its always a 10/10 for me.
Other plot point etc there can be argument hence why i said 8/10 overall but I wont rate objectively as this drama is one that I am invested in...from start was normal but slowly but surely hooked me and ended so well. I love it.
Last lingering around. Good run everyone and good discussion. Never been invested in a drama this much. Although the rating sure will be lower in China and here as the change of plot etc. I loved this drama and really hope that Pinocchio (C drama remake) is real. I wish this two would act together again!.
I think we can agree or disagree but in the end I feel the main take away from all of this is understand that everyone has different life and stances. As much as we disagree or agree. Life still goes on. Find the correct people in your life that is what matters most.
That's why you guys will not change anybody's mind cuz your entire argument stands on giving "Absolute Immunity"…
Good read, that said. I am sorry. I don't wish harm on anyone and anyone have issue with I will be there and I am there. In my real life. That said who said anyone is justifying her action? Its depends on situation no?.
In this drama term in both pain we must also understand its not even one the same level. yes everyone EQ is very different and small or big does not mean shit if you have no EQ. That said in the context OF THE DRAMA. YOU AL DONT understand SY as a person. Placing your own EQ and viewpoint.
"If you don't respect yourself, nobody will and if you allow yourself to be used, people will use you" - SY was never used and SY is always respected by his friend group and all. HE still treat himself well never downgrade himself. What do you mean?
You all want to justify the mean by your own standard and pull up suicide rate and all. Like what your point ? Man pain are worst and often not seen? While i agree. As someone who grew up poor and abusive family as a MAN we are told to grow up and handle pressure like its nothing. Is it WRONG YES. That said I survive and I can only speak in my own experience right?. I also understand WYF as when there is pressure and tough choices Like WYF also she choose to live weather her CHOICES are right or wrong. She lived on.
We are comparing pain here right, I did and I should not but HOW can you treat someone who need THE most in the drama as like minor?. NO one is justifying her actions never once I SAID I agree with her action does NOT mean is not dumb in the context of life and dramaland and plot. She did what she did to survive and love does not change the fact she suffers a lot and does not change years of fear and solitude . At least SY saw that and I saw that as a viewer.
I never said MAN pain dont mean anything. If you are suffering from pain just let it out too right? OR why most of this man have higher chance of suicide is MOST man (including myself) choose to hide our feeling like WYF did and one day suicide when everything bcm to unbearable bad thing happen in the CASE of WYF she did not a and mine even not as bad as hers also feel overwhelm by pressure when I was young but I did not not everyone is the same. That is also what most people in PAIN do and especially guy never show weakness and just continue life. Hence why the rate is high. Man dont get listen to often bsc we are MAN but in the context of this drama Which I am solely taking about SY IS not others....HE UNDERSTAND why she left him again and was hurt bsc he was not trusted enough with this type of issue.
I may not have a good command of English to prove my understanding and maybe misunderstood but Like you shows all the case study further prove my point that two heartbreak does not mean anything really not to say I condemn it but its in this context right. I have breakup and my buddies all do we are feel unfair for them and support them in real life. We all need to have an understanding to see people for their struggles not weather their man or lady. Like if the role is reverse I will also say the same and back SY in that case. Like we are solely arguing on the point LADY and MAN have diff things while the struggle is real no matter lady or man.
You are literally giving a red flag toward WYF struggle without even understanding it and straight think bsc SY is a guy and so devoted he is in pain and all. While WYF pain be it on a lady or a man is more worst and need more help. That my point.
love both characters and i understand the reasoning behind it but im sorry i was hoping we'd see him be a little…
Throw me off with that. You understand but actually you don't. If you understand, you'd know why he is not mad bsc he understands. I am just saying do you really understand?. To me SY did understand hence why he was not angry over her leaving again.
So do you understand what he understood and think from SY perspective or you think from your own level of perspective?
I'm sorry but this fight scene with the knife was so unnecessary. All the ML had to do was sit in the car after…
Well that why the hospital scene was needed. She raised her voice at him for that and that the first time she raised her voice toward him. It was never necessary. The guy did it bsc he was frustrated, angry and the previous heartfelt opening with the FL knowing everything he was angry and reckless. Even thou he called the police already he still went to confront him. So yeah.
After so many days i figure out that I love how people never commented back to me after I state that SY live a life of luxury and roses and YiFan does not. As no one want to admit in the end bloody two heartbreak for a guy is jackshit comparing to what life throws at you. That is the most unrealistic thing SY is his wonderful perfect life. They don't want to accept the fact you have to admit that two heartbreak is never equal a person life full of obstacle because in life. Those who complain about this two heartbreak is just living a life without actual struggle. Parents working, grew up with no financial crisis, no burden to bare. Only thing is focus study and chase a girl and have a dream chase your bloody dream set standards. Parents also never reprimanded him for chasing a lady in school, never pressured him about his academic and whatnot fully support him. Hahaha.
Give this role to a realistic person with a most normal face not as handsome as BJT no one would even support that person LOL. That is reality. Being patience, and all is just baseline of a normal human. You have anger issue, pride issue bsc you have a luxury life. People that have responsibility and hardship in life dont give a damn about pride and ego. As long thing get done it get done. No matter the cost to food a family or supporting a child. IF i bloody did what SY did I would bloody be beaten again for not focusing on studies and thinking of lady only.
I will trade 10 heartbreak "trauma" chasing a crush freely and openly for a life where i grew up with a loving family and with no financial issue. BRO...all this soy people talking about life HAHAHA. Get real. LOL.
just drop the drama and move on my goodness how many times have you brought this up already ok lah we get it lah…
The kid here is you. cant understand what an adaptation is and seperate novel from drama
The negative thing NO one ever want to admit to talk about and the actually most unrealistic thing or luxurious thing for SY is even in his most fragile moment is also because he was chasing a girl so all he think of is the girl. His family is good, his life is good all of them is good. No one died nth. His family supported him all the way and is loving, no financial issue in life. His friend even with his aloof attitude never even ditch him make him a loner and due to her he studied hard and made himself a successful life.
YiFan most fragile moment was when the dad past away > mom ditch her with her grandma > grandama died > lived with the aunt that never gave her anything good and constantly telling her she is not worth anything at all. > got SA by her uncle > turned a blind eye by all her family. SY was only part of the saving grace. She still through everything remained in love with SY too but with all the abovemention life circumstances.
Love does not cure you life choices that you are in for years. It does not. Anyone who think that is SY level of comfort. You live years in slump and expect one guy to change your life? What bullshit is that?
Tell me you live a rich and wonderful life to think that TWO heartbreak is more worst than someone with that kinda life circumstances.
My situation is not like Yifan and not a lady but anyone with brains or lived through a tough life or have family crisis and responsibility and other thing going on, also know that fcker man up two heartbreak is nothing in life comparing to shit life throw at you. "Natural progression" there is no natural progression that is dramaland fantasy. Life has diff situation and up and down.
Anyone with brains knows the novel version is so much more unrealistic but its a novel to swoon over which is lovely and I love the novel. I also love the drama adaptation of the story. The part I dislike is how they did MCY story and the grandpa story. That said month of dating does not change years of going at it yourself. The drama is with flaws and I accepted that is for the drama plotline.
I was laughing at the comments on Weibo about the drama 'Nanwo'. It's funny because 'Nanwo' is bragging about…
The stupid thing for me is why do i care?. I wish the drama success that said if it bomb is bomb but I still enjoyed it. I enjoyed it for myself and my watching experience that is all that matters. I need not follow rating to know my own preferences. Back to you all who like the rating to be drop. What in it for you? satisfaction of seeing a thing failed? Like I said previously to you. Why linger around when you hate something so passionately and cant differentiate drama and novel? I never understood your kind.
What a gem of character sang yan has! Even in his most fragile moment, all he could do is think about Yifan. That's…
While he is a gem, I really don't know how you can put in this way "diff between Yifan and SY" as i interpreted it as you think that why SY is like a unrealistic god entity and deserve better?.
IF I am wrong I am sorry. Tha said
The negative thing NO one ever want to admit to talk about and the actually most unrealistic thing or luxurious thing for SY is even in his most fragile moment is also because he was chasing a girl so all he think of is the girl. His family is good, his life is good all of them is good. No one died nth. His family supported him all the way and is loving, no financial issue in life. His friend even with his aloof attitude never even ditch him make him a loner and due to her he studied hard and made himself a successful life.
YiFan most fragile moment was when the dad past away > mom ditch her with her grandma > grandama died > lived with the aunt that never gave her anything good and constantly telling her she is not worth anything at all. > got SA by her uncle > turned a blind eye by all her family. SY was only part of the saving grace. She still through everything remained in love with SY too but with all the abovemention life circumstances.
That is THE BIG different between them. Not everyone has the luxury to only think about love while other aspect of their life is perfect. No one is without responsibility for your parents and other aspect of life and if you think that is correct I can go all in for love and everyone supported me then you have a good life.
I would trade two heartbreak over a life of mess LOL.
The slow burn to it picking up and turn up quick after most drama become stale and just watch for sweetness of the main lead and random person coming in and all but this everything connected and relates till now....The way I am more obsess the more ep i am in LOL.
in EP 28 you can see their own mindset on the issue.
He blame himself that he never notice her pain deep within and was a bystander and she think she is the problem still not his issue and not his worries. You two need each other so bad! I am happy we are almost done with all the angst!!! left the freaking worst to me the mother!
What he said was right the problem is not on them but the guy and to me is the people around her. The talk today combine with ytd was so good!.
how so if she run away or leave the criminal will not kill ml !? there no logic iif it's like this because what…
This is not a ultimate smart villain of dramaland... this guy is a stupid dumb pervert that knows jackshit and blame WYF calling the cops on him years back. HE only stalks WYF even in EP 28 he also is stalking WYF to get his revenge. SY and other are not even in his radar after WYF left to HK. He continue with his pervy ways.
Comparing everything to heavier shows like Nirvana in Fire also isn’t entirely fair because not every drama is trying to achieve that level of depth. Some are meant to be light, cliché, even predictable and still enjoyable. There’s nothing wrong with watching for the “giggles,” the visuals, or simply because it’s entertaining. Not every viewing experience needs to be meaningful or critically “worthy,” especially when, at the end of the day, people are just trying to unwind. Life itself is already stressful enough there’s no need to turn watching dramas into another standard to meet.
At the end of the day, it really just comes down to preference. If a drama is fun, then it’s worth watching if not, just move on. There’s so much content available that criticizing other people’s taste feels pointless. Everyone has their own way of enjoying things, and that doesn’t need validation or comparison to something else
Like hmmmmm Xie Zheng is capable and OP indeed but there is not much of him besiede face card I love the leads tgt but idk why after Li An all the plot feel choppy. Everything in Li An was so nice and smooth.
I never so passionately typed in here before and might never will until another drama that I really really love like this which is really rare for me who watch so many and find all of them almost the same in the end but for now I will go savor the ending again. Its been a fun and emotional journey this drama is.
Bai Jingting and Zhang Ruonan, for portraying the love between Sang Yan and Wen Yifan so perfectly. Nailed their role and more!. Could never see anyone else for the role beside you too.
To me I love the change but the early part of the grandpa although was needed for our 2nd leads and MCY changes are rather too draggy. In my head is 8/10 or 8.5/10 hahaha. SO you rating is even better than mine and I liked the plot changes hahaha.
MY objective one is 8/10 bsc there are flaws BUT i rate it 10/10 The leads and the last few EP are so well done all the emotion and concluding the story beautifully not just happy but is just a wonder experience. The lead whenever on screen its always a 10/10 for me.
Other plot point etc there can be argument hence why i said 8/10 overall but I wont rate objectively as this drama is one that I am invested in...from start was normal but slowly but surely hooked me and ended so well. I love it.
I think we can agree or disagree but in the end I feel the main take away from all of this is understand that everyone has different life and stances. As much as we disagree or agree. Life still goes on. Find the correct people in your life that is what matters most.
In this drama term in both pain we must also understand its not even one the same level. yes everyone EQ is very different and small or big does not mean shit if you have no EQ. That said in the context OF THE DRAMA. YOU AL DONT understand SY as a person. Placing your own EQ and viewpoint.
"If you don't respect yourself, nobody will and if you allow yourself to be used, people will use you" - SY was never used and SY is always respected by his friend group and all. HE still treat himself well never downgrade himself. What do you mean?
You all want to justify the mean by your own standard and pull up suicide rate and all. Like what your point ? Man pain are worst and often not seen? While i agree. As someone who grew up poor and abusive family as a MAN we are told to grow up and handle pressure like its nothing. Is it WRONG YES. That said I survive and I can only speak in my own experience right?. I also understand WYF as when there is pressure and tough choices Like WYF also she choose to live weather her CHOICES are right or wrong. She lived on.
We are comparing pain here right, I did and I should not but HOW can you treat someone who need THE most in the drama as like minor?. NO one is justifying her actions never once I SAID I agree with her action does NOT mean is not dumb in the context of life and dramaland and plot. She did what she did to survive and love does not change the fact she suffers a lot and does not change years of fear and solitude . At least SY saw that and I saw that as a viewer.
I never said MAN pain dont mean anything. If you are suffering from pain just let it out too right? OR why most of this man have higher chance of suicide is MOST man (including myself) choose to hide our feeling like WYF did and one day suicide when everything bcm to unbearable bad thing happen in the CASE of WYF she did not a and mine even not as bad as hers also feel overwhelm by pressure when I was young but I did not not everyone is the same. That is also what most people in PAIN do and especially guy never show weakness and just continue life. Hence why the rate is high. Man dont get listen to often bsc we are MAN but in the context of this drama Which I am solely taking about SY IS not others....HE UNDERSTAND why she left him again and was hurt bsc he was not trusted enough with this type of issue.
I may not have a good command of English to prove my understanding and maybe misunderstood but Like you shows all the case study further prove my point that two heartbreak does not mean anything really not to say I condemn it but its in this context right. I have breakup and my buddies all do we are feel unfair for them and support them in real life. We all need to have an understanding to see people for their struggles not weather their man or lady. Like if the role is reverse I will also say the same and back SY in that case. Like we are solely arguing on the point LADY and MAN have diff things while the struggle is real no matter lady or man.
You are literally giving a red flag toward WYF struggle without even understanding it and straight think bsc SY is a guy and so devoted he is in pain and all. While WYF pain be it on a lady or a man is more worst and need more help. That my point.
So do you understand what he understood and think from SY perspective or you think from your own level of perspective?
Give this role to a realistic person with a most normal face not as handsome as BJT no one would even support that person LOL. That is reality. Being patience, and all is just baseline of a normal human. You have anger issue, pride issue bsc you have a luxury life. People that have responsibility and hardship in life dont give a damn about pride and ego. As long thing get done it get done. No matter the cost to food a family or supporting a child. IF i bloody did what SY did I would bloody be beaten again for not focusing on studies and thinking of lady only.
I will trade 10 heartbreak "trauma" chasing a crush freely and openly for a life where i grew up with a loving family and with no financial issue. BRO...all this soy people talking about life HAHAHA. Get real. LOL.
The negative thing NO one ever want to admit to talk about and the actually most unrealistic thing or luxurious thing for SY is even in his most fragile moment is also because he was chasing a girl so all he think of is the girl. His family is good, his life is good all of them is good. No one died nth. His family supported him all the way and is loving, no financial issue in life. His friend even with his aloof attitude never even ditch him make him a loner and due to her he studied hard and made himself a successful life.
YiFan most fragile moment was when the dad past away > mom ditch her with her grandma > grandama died > lived with the aunt that never gave her anything good and constantly telling her she is not worth anything at all. > got SA by her uncle > turned a blind eye by all her family. SY was only part of the saving grace. She still through everything remained in love with SY too but with all the abovemention life circumstances.
Love does not cure you life choices that you are in for years. It does not. Anyone who think that is SY level of comfort. You live years in slump and expect one guy to change your life? What bullshit is that?
Tell me you live a rich and wonderful life to think that TWO heartbreak is more worst than someone with that kinda life circumstances.
My situation is not like Yifan and not a lady but anyone with brains or lived through a tough life or have family crisis and responsibility and other thing going on, also know that fcker man up two heartbreak is nothing in life comparing to shit life throw at you. "Natural progression" there is no natural progression that is dramaland fantasy. Life has diff situation and up and down.
Anyone with brains knows the novel version is so much more unrealistic but its a novel to swoon over which is lovely and I love the novel. I also love the drama adaptation of the story. The part I dislike is how they did MCY story and the grandpa story. That said month of dating does not change years of going at it yourself. The drama is with flaws and I accepted that is for the drama plotline.
IF I am wrong I am sorry. Tha said
The negative thing NO one ever want to admit to talk about and the actually most unrealistic thing or luxurious thing for SY is even in his most fragile moment is also because he was chasing a girl so all he think of is the girl. His family is good, his life is good all of them is good. No one died nth. His family supported him all the way and is loving, no financial issue in life. His friend even with his aloof attitude never even ditch him make him a loner and due to her he studied hard and made himself a successful life.
YiFan most fragile moment was when the dad past away > mom ditch her with her grandma > grandama died > lived with the aunt that never gave her anything good and constantly telling her she is not worth anything at all. > got SA by her uncle > turned a blind eye by all her family. SY was only part of the saving grace. She still through everything remained in love with SY too but with all the abovemention life circumstances.
That is THE BIG different between them. Not everyone has the luxury to only think about love while other aspect of their life is perfect. No one is without responsibility for your parents and other aspect of life and if you think that is correct I can go all in for love and everyone supported me then you have a good life.
I would trade two heartbreak over a life of mess LOL.
He blame himself that he never notice her pain deep within and was a bystander and she think she is the problem still not his issue and not his worries. You two need each other so bad! I am happy we are almost done with all the angst!!! left the freaking worst to me the mother!
What he said was right the problem is not on them but the guy and to me is the people around her. The talk today combine with ytd was so good!.
Are we watching the same show?