Is there a clever person who was able to translate the letter at the end? I can faintly see some characters shining through but don’t have the tech whiz capabilities to answer my curiosity!
I'm actually not sure they're dead. 1- No one from either side of the conflict saw their bodies. 2 - The bad guys…
Plus with the first coin toss he said something to the theme of ‘turning a bad situation into a good one’ so perhaps they used the chance to feign death and start a new life.
Why was the ML in a 'battle' with Prince Ning? It was not as if they were fighting over the throne or 'heir of…
I totally get the muddling up the dramas! I watched it last night and it took me an min to remember what this was about! Especially because so many of them have the same storyline!
So much of his character doesn’t make sense. Like how she says that in the original life that he came back safe from helping with the plague crisis but in the original life he didn’t sit the exam, was thought of as a complete waste of space so why would the king send him on an important humanitarian mission?!
So many other basic plot holes! (That I can no longer remember!)
Having said that the insane amount of drama that they were constantly manoeuvre was quite enjoyable after watching many dramas where the leads just constantly suffer injustice!
Why was the ML in a 'battle' with Prince Ning? It was not as if they were fighting over the throne or 'heir of…
I *think* because the father’s death was as a result of the embezzlement of military funds it would constitute as treason so whoever was responsible would end up at the risk of clan annihilation.
He initially didn’t know who the culprit was or the reason why the war was lost but knew that it must have had someone powerful involved. The creation of the playboy imagine was a defence. I. E. this guy is a waste of space so this would provide him with time to find out the truth. If he was a scholar, the hidden enemy may suspect he’s smart enough to investigate or a military man would be able to connect with the right people (though he was obviously in the army previously, when he adopted the child).
I don’t believe it’s explored much but when he runs to the dancehall in disguise the Prince is suspicious and on more than one occasion the Prince mentions his father’s death so he’s obviously testing him. All giving the impression that what he’s investigating is very dangerous.
Given that he was previously a respected member of the army I find it hard to believe that any of the characters accept his fake persona.
So, it’s simply a plot device where he appears useless but is hiding his true identity as her ‘perfect’ male lead!!!
I’m starting to wonder if SL will find the tree & then curse himself as he realises it’s used to save JBZ ‘s life rather than MY’s!
I’ll feel immensely satisfied if he cluelessly saves his love rival ( despite the fact that to everyone except himself he’s not actually even a feature in this love equation!!!)
Good theory. I was wondering why a man his age would have dementia. Don’t know how common that is for someone…
Agreed. So early onset dementia does exist but it’s not very common, we’ve got no family medical history for comparison but his symptoms and actions don’t appear like a typical dementia presentation (In my opinion & professional experience).
I agree with you about remembering. The law in these time travel type shoes seem to imply anyone who engages with the phenomenon has a memory ( however vague) of it.
If we get a few others to decide they retain their memories it can become a fact right….!!! Hah.
Why didn't Hai Tang call the damn cops when the father kept spewing shit, stole the class funds, and whatnot?…
I was enjoying your discussion so I thought I’d butt in with my 2 cents.
I think in this town and era prejudice plays a big part.
Tang mentions that ‘it’s a father dolling out discipline to his daughter’ so no one will interfere. That and he’s self proclamation of being the good guy means that neighbours and acquaintances will not interject.
Regarding school Miss Tan is the only teacher we are introduced to as being involved. She has her own prejudices. She blames Xun on several occasions without looking further into the reasons for his behaviour ( we also see her blame Cha for the involvement with the gang when he at that point is desperately trying to go straight). Despite being exposed to tragic backgrounds while she may sympathise she doesn’t truly empathise with the situations. She must have heard about the knife incident with Tang but doesn’t even ask her about it. When the dad picks her up after the love letter she says not to blame her (tang) too much implying she expects she’ll receive punishment for it. Yes, they never directly tell her what’s going on and given her close relationship with Xun you’d expect they would at least try but given that neither of them has had a reliable adult there are probably trust issues involved ( even Tang’s gran must have allowed her son to beat the child without much resistance given the years of sustained abuse). At this time in the 90s, rural china it’s unlikely the school would have had any legal responsibility about abuse, some views may have also been that she’s a good student BECAUSE her father ‘disciplined’ (beat) her. At the end of the day the school only cares about what happens at school.
3. The police don’t even care about the gang beating up a grandma in public are they really interested in what goes on for a poor girl in private? They detain Xun when two eyewitnesses say that he is a victim not caring about how this with impact the life of a youth. They are definitely not going to be looking for more work. DV cases like this still occur frequently today, there was recently a case in the states where the gf was subsequently murdered. Prior footage shows the perpetrator convincing the police he is the victim in a calm collected manner. His gf is frantic and filled with emotion so they don’t believe her.
What @heila mentioned about wounds, he can easily argue they were self inflicted whilst she was in a delusional state. Regarding the gambling neighbours likely view this with sympathy and as a result of his wife’s behaviour (his version) a man being wronged is worse than a child being wronged in their eyes. Some likely agreed with his actions because in their eyes he is stopping a motherless child from going down the wrong path.
In all, sadly I think her situation is a result of societal norms, people not wanting to get involved/ not caring, a manipulative perpetrator and because she is functioning (good at school) everything is neatly swept under the rug.
Unfortunately not just a commentary on the times but more a slap in the face of humanity ( or lack there of).
The cat from the last scene in nian's room was the same cat?? What was that😭
I wonder if the cat went to her as a guardian? The loser of this outcome is Nian because she likely ends up in care when her grandmother dies. We see her living a good life so perhaps the cat goes to her to protect her as a gift of karmic sacrifice? Or so that it can lead her to meet the other characters at some point?
Or because that cat had already been paid to film that day!!!!!!!
Now, I just think he’s stupid, selfish and ignorant. Shame.
Not sure I’m completely happy about her sister’s redemption but fine!
I know it’s a short but I would have liked to know why her dad was so cruel to her!
So much of his character doesn’t make sense. Like how she says that in the original life that he came back safe from helping with the plague crisis but in the original life he didn’t sit the exam, was thought of as a complete waste of space so why would the king send him on an important humanitarian mission?!
So many other basic plot holes! (That I can no longer remember!)
Having said that the insane amount of drama that they were constantly manoeuvre was quite enjoyable after watching many dramas where the leads just constantly suffer injustice!
He initially didn’t know who the culprit was or the reason why the war was lost but knew that it must have had someone powerful involved. The creation of the playboy imagine was a defence. I. E. this guy is a waste of space so this would provide him with time to find out the truth. If he was a scholar, the hidden enemy may suspect he’s smart enough to investigate or a military man would be able to connect with the right people (though he was obviously in the army previously, when he adopted the child).
I don’t believe it’s explored much but when he runs to the dancehall in disguise the Prince is suspicious and on more than one occasion the Prince mentions his father’s death so he’s obviously testing him. All giving the impression that what he’s investigating is very dangerous.
Given that he was previously a respected member of the army I find it hard to believe that any of the characters accept his fake persona.
So, it’s simply a plot device where he appears useless but is hiding his true identity as her ‘perfect’ male lead!!!
I’ll feel immensely satisfied if he cluelessly saves his love rival ( despite the fact that to everyone except himself he’s not actually even a feature in this love equation!!!)
I agree with you about remembering. The law in these time travel type shoes seem to imply anyone who engages with the phenomenon has a memory ( however vague) of it.
If we get a few others to decide they retain their memories it can become a fact right….!!! Hah.
I think in this town and era prejudice plays a big part.
Tang mentions that ‘it’s a father dolling out discipline to his daughter’ so no one will interfere. That and he’s self proclamation of being the good guy means that neighbours and acquaintances will not interject.
Regarding school Miss Tan is the only teacher we are introduced to as being involved. She has her own prejudices. She blames Xun on several occasions without looking further into the reasons for his behaviour ( we also see her blame Cha for the involvement with the gang when he at that point is desperately trying to go straight). Despite being exposed to tragic backgrounds while she may sympathise she doesn’t truly empathise with the situations. She must have heard about the knife incident with Tang but doesn’t even ask her about it. When the dad picks her up after the love letter she says not to blame her (tang) too much implying she expects she’ll receive punishment for it. Yes, they never directly tell her what’s going on and given her close relationship with Xun you’d expect they would at least try but given that neither of them has had a reliable adult there are probably trust issues involved ( even Tang’s gran must have allowed her son to beat the child without much resistance given the years of sustained abuse). At this time in the 90s, rural china it’s unlikely the school would have had any legal responsibility about abuse, some views may have also been that she’s a good student BECAUSE her father ‘disciplined’ (beat) her. At the end of the day the school only cares about what happens at school.
3. The police don’t even care about the gang beating up a grandma in public are they really interested in what goes on for a poor girl in private? They detain Xun when two eyewitnesses say that he is a victim not caring about how this with impact the life of a youth. They are definitely not going to be looking for more work. DV cases like this still occur frequently today, there was recently a case in the states where the gf was subsequently murdered. Prior footage shows the perpetrator convincing the police he is the victim in a calm collected manner. His gf is frantic and filled with emotion so they don’t believe her.
What @heila mentioned about wounds, he can easily argue they were self inflicted whilst she was in a delusional state. Regarding the gambling neighbours likely view this with sympathy and as a result of his wife’s behaviour (his version) a man being wronged is worse than a child being wronged in their eyes. Some likely agreed with his actions because in their eyes he is stopping a motherless child from going down the wrong path.
In all, sadly I think her situation is a result of societal norms, people not wanting to get involved/ not caring, a manipulative perpetrator and because she is functioning (good at school) everything is neatly swept under the rug.
Unfortunately not just a commentary on the times but more a slap in the face of humanity ( or lack there of).
Or because that cat had already been paid to film that day!!!!!!!