very simple. because there was a scandal between actress and actor from the company (leaked record of them kissing…
If I get any more chill, it will get frosty, and don't even let me start on how much the opening (or the filler in your comment) shows the exact opposite of the first claim. Thank you for explaining where your shortcomings about perceiving audio visual projects come from, even though I thought I knew since the first message, I like the confirmation. It seems to me like you deem yourself to be the only person on this planet to study psychology at university. Congratulations for your self absorption. I hope that you included in your studies as well critical perspective on psychology and in what aspects are psychology's shortcomings. I especially hope that you underwent a critical perspective on Freud. And I would love to compare who of us have higher education. So, please, go ahead. I am waiting. :) I absolutely did not attribute what I said to you, that would be too rude. Unlike your perception of things, it seems I took very neutral tone with you. The same counts for this project - I observed it very neutrally. But it looks like you are taking everything personally, which I understand, and it is so similar to the perspective you are taking and judging from these audiovisual projects of SCOY nature. It is very difficult for me to identify from which point of view you read my message, but I assure you I did not overthink it, I was not dramatic, and it took me to write it like 5 to 10 minutes (from my perspective appropriate amount of time spent over unimportant internet comment), so there was nothing personal in it. But with all problems attached to actors in it, if possible, I would like people to still watch this series without any sort of prejudices, and that is not how you wrote your previous comment/reaction. And I am aware of kids running in here, doing very nasty stuff on other social media afterwards, so... not good combination. Aside - age wise I am not falling into this category - ok, neither am I. I prefer more mature and elaborated stories - agreed. But the truth is anyone who is making such content are also very very adult people. - I did not do research on that, so it would only be my expectations and estimations. I will take your word on it, it makes, generally speaking, sense. School children are not making series about school children for school children and I personally think that is the key problem because adults decide what kids should like, but let's don't go there. - No, I would enjoy going there. You mean adult assumptions about younger people? OK, go ahead, maybe that’s gonna be an interesting discussion. And so far I agree. “I don't know the Thai BL industry good enough” - OK, I think you know you can't apply European or American standards on Asian Projects, which seems to be the comparison you are drawing to be able to compare and discuss, am I correct? I would say I know it good as of now. Even though your previous comment wasn’t strictly neutral, I did not get offended or angry so I guess those are the emotions you, mentioning projections, projected in the comment. I just know of and am taking into consideration the big wound that happened around these three to four actors, and if I see something on what should be neutral grounds, even though it frequently isn't (MDL), I really want to encourage any newcomer to make their own judgment on these projects not to copy paste from comment section. That is the only and solely purpose I spoke up for. If you wish to have any other highly educational conversation about Asian movies or series of BL nature, I am open to it. P.S. Was the condescending tone any sort of indication you get offended or hurt by my words? So an unimportant opinion of one of 8.1 billion people of this world? :)
very simple. because there was a scandal between actress and actor from the company (leaked record of them kissing…
Look, I am not gonna search for the information if you are a secret hater of freenseng, billyseng or freenbecky, because I don't care. It is as well true that you need some level of maturity (and being able to see the bigger thing) to be able to understand this series from its wider perspective. For that you need knowledge and certain perception on audio visual projects in general, then you need specific knowledge and experience about young adult projects in general and then specifically about the BL young adult audio visual projects. It is as well true none tastes are the same. Or it is as well a frequent phenomenon that we tend to hate recommended projects based on secondary “reasons“ - like you being envious of your friend, or jealous, or you having an argument before that you lost to, or even won, but still some sourness remained. Or you are in the stage of a relationship where you need to differentiate your friend’s tastes from yours and a project recommended might be a middleman for you. From my perspective all the examples are possibilities with probably the same weight of probability. But objectively speaking, from my experience and knowledge, Secret Crush on You is nowhere near a bad project, or you would have to say that all Idol Factory projects are trash, which I guess many people would disagree on. But that might be your personal taste and opinion, which you are entitled to have no matter your age or experience. But still - creating a shortcut only about things you disliked is a little bit of a stretch and I recommend to you strongly trying to figure out why you dislike it so much.
Wait, I actually thought "Old Fashioned Cupcake" did NOT treat us properly because they were juuuuust about to…
I was surprised by the last ep to, and a little dissapointed for no action after ep 4., yes. But I was throwing it behind A) believing in SS2 and B) understanding it would be too much for (nearly)closed-minded BL J-dramas. But yeah, you true - I expected at least some kiss happening. And still-and still... the special ep. *melting*
Wait, I actually thought "Old Fashioned Cupcake" did NOT treat us properly because they were juuuuust about to…
...well, THAT is actually true about 5th episode, BUT what about the kiss Togawa gave Nozue at the end of ep.4? Nozue even two times reciprocated before sliding down. Even if he did not said what he said at the end of ep. 5, and if he still did that in ep. 4, that is in my head how you react decently to confession whether you have feelings or not (with Nozue frozen - aka not returning the kiss back - or not frozen, as was the case in ep.4). Situation of Nozue: confused, slow at registering, sluggish, surprised, not disgusted at all but not knowing, what he stands on. It was very unexpected. Probably for both. In my vocabulary that situation and that kiss was very much treated normally and according to circumstances, even above avreage considering what we might expect generally speaking or comparing j-bl-dramas. But watch that scene again, please, if you haven't gain all of this from watching the series on your own. That scene, where is it placed, how thoroughly it is done. It is done subtly, ingeniously, if you are not used to see specific things, you will miss on so much in this rare case. AND - THE APPROACH TO THE SCENE both from actors and creators! I must applaud. It is beautiful microworld and nothing is hung to your nose that much. I am as well positively surprised since older actors in comparison to who usually do these scenes and their age are setting an example of how these scenes should be done even in BL. Shows not only maturity but as well how dedicarted they are to acting and on what level their acting skills are, IMHO. Irks me, they are still treated with support characters AND would greatly appreciate 2nd ss of OFC.
But this series is good, it's a decent comedy with unusual plot, maybe you judgded it too soon
no, i haven't seen it yet, and i will watch it. even if it is a compete shit. that is not it. i was comparing for a long time now their tgt career, and i don't like the avreage numbers for their series in fear of if their projecta are not gonna be good, than what is their fate n the future?
oh woe tee... it would be a GREAT prank from j-drama to the constant outpour of complaints in comment section here on MDL about deadfish kisses j-series, IF they left the dead fish kisses thing AND provided at proper places the thorough ones. But of course, I come to terms here and now with we will never see such happening in this series. God thank to Old Fashioned Cupcake. At least there they treated us properly.
tbh it's really good idk why ppl hate it like get it second hand Embrassement but after afew episode it kinds…
very simple. because there was a scandal between actress and actor from the company (leaked record of them kissing by third party), so it basically ruined two ships, on bl, one gl, for many - one of them was active and at peak at that time - freenbecky. The amount of hatred towards seng (one of the MML) after was just unacceptable. So... do not trust under any circumstances ratings. trust your own experience. (before rating was around 7.8 - 7.6, why i am not surprised it went lower?)
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Thank you for explaining where your shortcomings about perceiving audio visual projects come from, even though I thought I knew since the first message, I like the confirmation. It seems to me like you deem yourself to be the only person on this planet to study psychology at university. Congratulations for your self absorption. I hope that you included in your studies as well critical perspective on psychology and in what aspects are psychology's shortcomings. I especially hope that you underwent a critical perspective on Freud. And I would love to compare who of us have higher education. So, please, go ahead. I am waiting. :)
I absolutely did not attribute what I said to you, that would be too rude. Unlike your perception of things, it seems I took very neutral tone with you. The same counts for this project - I observed it very neutrally. But it looks like you are taking everything personally, which I understand, and it is so similar to the perspective you are taking and judging from these audiovisual projects of SCOY nature. It is very difficult for me to identify from which point of view you read my message, but I assure you I did not overthink it, I was not dramatic, and it took me to write it like 5 to 10 minutes (from my perspective appropriate amount of time spent over unimportant internet comment), so there was nothing personal in it. But with all problems attached to actors in it, if possible, I would like people to still watch this series without any sort of prejudices, and that is not how you wrote your previous comment/reaction. And I am aware of kids running in here, doing very nasty stuff on other social media afterwards, so... not good combination.
Aside - age wise I am not falling into this category - ok, neither am I.
I prefer more mature and elaborated stories - agreed.
But the truth is anyone who is making such content are also very very adult people. - I did not do research on that, so it would only be my expectations and estimations. I will take your word on it, it makes, generally speaking, sense.
School children are not making series about school children for school children and I personally think that is the key problem because adults decide what kids should like, but let's don't go there. - No, I would enjoy going there. You mean adult assumptions about younger people? OK, go ahead, maybe that’s gonna be an interesting discussion. And so far I agree.
“I don't know the Thai BL industry good enough” - OK, I think you know you can't apply European or American standards on Asian Projects, which seems to be the comparison you are drawing to be able to compare and discuss, am I correct? I would say I know it good as of now.
Even though your previous comment wasn’t strictly neutral, I did not get offended or angry so I guess those are the emotions you, mentioning projections, projected in the comment. I just know of and am taking into consideration the big wound that happened around these three to four actors, and if I see something on what should be neutral grounds, even though it frequently isn't (MDL), I really want to encourage any newcomer to make their own judgment on these projects not to copy paste from comment section.
That is the only and solely purpose I spoke up for. If you wish to have any other highly educational conversation about Asian movies or series of BL nature, I am open to it.
P.S. Was the condescending tone any sort of indication you get offended or hurt by my words? So an unimportant opinion of one of 8.1 billion people of this world? :)
I am as well positively surprised since older actors in comparison to who usually do these scenes and their age are setting an example of how these scenes should be done even in BL. Shows not only maturity but as well how dedicarted they are to acting and on what level their acting skills are, IMHO. Irks me, they are still treated with support characters AND would greatly appreciate 2nd ss of OFC.