Wonda447

Thanks my darling❤️

Thanks, I normally skip to the couples I like than watch the whole show, just like what I did with Fourever You.

Everyone has different opinions on what they like.

Cool, thanks for the numbers, but all that really proves is that Thai BLs have way less to work with. No one’s expecting Downton Abbey levels of production from TNP. The point is, for the budget it did have, the show still dropped the ball in key areas.

It’s not about matching Western budgets, it’s about using what you have well. And when other BLs with smaller budgets manage tighter storytelling, better pacing, and cleaner direction, there’s no excuse. TNP had the resources to do more, and it just didn’t deliver. That’s what people are calling out.

Then maybe stop acting like most criticism is worthless just because it doesn’t meet your standards. People have been making short, clear points about what isn’t working in the series, you just don’t seem to take them seriously unless they’re wrapped in a way you approve of.

Not every viewer is going to give you perfectly structured feedback. They’re reacting to what they’re watching, and that’s valid. If you really don’t only respond to praise, then start showing that instead of dismissing half the comment section.

If someone sticks around for 14 weeks saying it sucks, maybe take the hint that something about the show isn't landing for a chunk of viewers. Dismissing that as “deserving derision” just shows you’re more interested in defending the show than actually listening to criticism.

Not everyone’s part of some coordinated “buddy” system, some people just genuinely agree it’s mid. That’s not a conspiracy, it’s just a shared opinion. Deal with it.

Exactly, that’s the whole point. You can’t fairly compare a Thai BL to massive productions like Downton Abbey with entirely different funding, industry support, and international reach. But that doesn’t mean we can’t expect more within reason.

For the budget they had, yes, they did some things well, but noticing cardboard props falling apart just proves that even basic visual details were missed. If they didn’t have the budget for realism, then smarter direction and tighter camera work should’ve made up for it.

So while effort was clearly there, the execution in places still fell short - and pointing that out isn’t unreasonable.

You’re free to suggest whatever you want, but let’s not pretend you’re above it all while throwing passive-aggressive jabs. If you felt misunderstood, you could’ve clarified instead of trying to shut down the conversation with tone policing.

You made your point, I made mine. That’s how discussions work. If disagreement feels like a lecture to you, maybe you're the one missing some perspective.

You say nobody owes you anything, but you still feel entitled to decide what counts as a “crap comment.” If someone’s take sounds ridiculous to you, fine - scroll past it. But acting like your tolerance level or personal standards should shape the entire conversation is just arrogant.

Plenty of people do expect more from Thai BLs, especially when a series is hyped up, takes ages to produce, and carries a hefty budget. That doesn’t make them ridiculous, it makes them discerning. Not everyone is going to pat a show on the back just for existing.

You admit the book had more complexity, and you even say they failed to make the intimacy believable or well-executed. So if viewers are underwhelmed, that’s fair. Wanting strong storytelling, consistent pacing, and actual emotional impact is not the same as expecting Oscar-level material - it’s expecting effort.

It’s fine that you think TNP is a decent BL. Others disagree. That doesn’t make their opinions trash, and it sure doesn’t make yours untouchable.

Some people are too deluded to tell the difference.

Can't people not separate fictional characters from reality LMAO.

Sure, you say you have thoughtful criticism, but dismissing 90% of other opinions as useless just makes you sound elitist. Not everyone wants to or can write a detailed essay, and that doesn’t mean their feedback is invalid.

If you only respond to the “good” stuff and ignore the rest, you’re shutting down real conversation. Stop acting like you’re the judge of what counts as valid criticism.

Maybe it’s too much to expect everyone to write an essay every time they don’t like something. Not everyone wants to sound like a critic or spell everything out in detail. Sometimes people just want to say, “This sucks,” and that’s their honest reaction.

Comparing viewers to toddlers throwing tantrums just because they don’t meet your standards for “proper” criticism? That’s petty. If you don’t like the noise, scroll past instead of acting like the comment section is your personal daycare.

Calling people’s opinions “diarrhea” just because they’re not detailed critiques is rude and dismissive. Not everyone owes you a perfect essay on why they don’t like a show. If someone sticks around 14 weeks saying they don’t like it, maybe they’re right to feel that way.

People don’t have to “rate and be done” just to avoid hurting your feelings. Stop acting like you’re the gatekeeper of valid criticism. Let people say what they think without the snark.

Thats not the only thing I was focused on, I think Win flashed us unintentionally🤭😭😂

Exactly! The book had solid material that didn’t need to be messed with. Staying true to RP’s original personality wouldn’t have meant less screen time for the main couple - it would have made the story way stronger. Adding all that extra angst so late just feels forced, and trying to fix it in one rushed episode is setting the show up to fall flat. They really missed an opportunity to do justice to the source.

Have not watched Y-Destiny yet. But maybe this is a sign to watch it?

Absolutely, we do have a responsibility to call out the quality or lack thereof in these shows. If we don’t, the bar will just keep dropping and we’ll end up accepting anything mediocre just because of fandom hype.

@Sapphicace really nailed it with those points. Blind support doesn’t help anyone - creators, actors, or fans - because it lets subpar content slide when it should be challenged. Self-respect means holding everyone accountable so the industry can actually improve.

Yeah, I am looking on the brightside by reading the comments section😂

I have not started this anyways so your better than me for even attempting it🤣😭