15,16, or 17, what’s the difference??? remove Korean age and she’s 16 either way no difference
yes, but there is a progression. are we going to cancel celebrities who "wait until they are legal?" then, you ought to cancel everyone dating people who just became legal. if he's a groomer, he'd need to exert more effort such as being in her life constantly, restricting communication with parents, progressively increasing physical intimacy, exposing sexual ideas to her, etc. that is grooming and I see 0 evidence of that. and we all know what a pedo is.
15,16, or 17, what’s the difference??? remove Korean age and she’s 16 either way no difference
Look, KSH might have been a creep. But a creep is not necessarily a groomer and a groomer is not necessarily a pedo. People want evidence that he was a groomer and a pedo NOT A CREEP....
15,16, or 17, what’s the difference??? remove Korean age and she’s 16 either way no difference
Those lies were regarding whether they were in a relationship, which is fucked up, but had nothing to do with grooming. by your logic, KSR's family can't be trust because the family lied about the aunt and her husband. anyways, knetz are shitting on him right now for the press conference.
15,16, or 17, what’s the difference??? remove Korean age and she’s 16 either way no difference
Regarding the grooming allegation, the conference is finished. Reporter already asked if that's all the evidence he had and he said yes. They literally showed an unverified Kakao message that indicates they weren't dating in 2015 unless dating means eating a meal together or something.
15,16, or 17, what’s the difference??? remove Korean age and she’s 16 either way no difference
They aren't showing the message nor was it verified, but it contradicts the claim they were dating at 2015 if KSH is willing to wait1 more year for a kiss at whatever the date when the message was sent for whatever context. It puts everything into question.
dispatch, other media, and their fans that followed both of them everywhere knew.I read somewhere, I forgot if…
you claimed they knew, but they didn't report it, which means they covered it up..... covering up pedophilia/grooming is corruption. you don't need to write money to imply it??????
no it was not dispatch that said it was an open secret. it was the acquanitance ON DISPATCH who made the claim. and of course they're not going to write a narrative about not dating minors. they went to verify if there is substance to the allegation, which they did, not write a full investigative piece on it, which would require way more manpower, evidence, and support that dispatch would definitely not have. seriously, it really seems like you're not grasping the picture. has tmz ever done a professional investigative report that uncovered some deep dark industry secret writing a 20 page dossier or a hour long broadcast? why would you expect dispatch to?
we don't know WHY the media didn't cover ksr's parents story and the immediate conclusion shouldnt be because of corruption.
look, you still havent provided a single reason what would motivate dispatch to support ksr by giving more credibility to garosero if they were working with GM..... that makes absolutely no sense at all whatsoever. had dispatch just shut the hell up or debunked ksr's family, the people would assume garosero is stirring up shit again. why would GM using dispatch literally shoot themselves on the foot?
lol... that's dumb. ksh and gm's networth combined won't even be like 2% of hybe... even 1% is pushing it.
it's getting "buried" because our information is coming from garosero, the alex jones of korea, and lee jin ho, some comedian youtuber(???)... Until a reputable investigative journalist covers this or authorities share their findings it wont get touched by any reputable mainstream media.
My Korean-American friend translated it:Possible Red Flags of Grooming in the Letter:Emotional Manipulation &…
uh, you're going to ask your friend to tell me where exactly he got that and preferably the original transcription because i dont recall reading anything like that. the biggest red flag for me was when he said they can go to school together because that sounds really weird without further context.
also the final signature isn't Kim-il sung lmaooo. it's "writing from faraway, kim il byung". can your korean american friend actually read korean? this sounds like ai tried reading it....
this is actually crazy stuff. if KSR left all these text messages, photos, and voicemail. she deleted it all but kept stuff about KSH (???), she has a different phone she uses to only shit on her husband, the ex made it all up, or her parents covered it up and blamed KSH. what the actual fuck is going on.
there are two points now. what likely led to ksr's death and did ksh groom ksr? just because i know it's going to get crazier from now, we should remember there are at least 2 topics in case you narrow in on one.
dispatch, other media, and their fans that followed both of them everywhere knew.I read somewhere, I forgot if…
Your first sentence of your first response?? if a media company had good evidence a celebrity was grooming a minor, they would report it. if they really wanted to "protect" ksr by not publishing it, they would report it to the parents? why would they just cover it up?
the article is there are secret couples where it is an open secret, but that does not mean every secret couple is an open secret. some are obviously closed secrets.
yes, i think dispatch is on ksr's side. it would be crazy to think otherwise unless there is proof like a board of director in dispatch is ksh's family member or ksh is dating someone of high position in dispatch. dispatch was able to convince MANY people with their article on ksh's close acquiantance. this is because when ksr's parent tried to find other outlets and they refused her, some might assume corruption, but a lot of people assumed she didn't good evidence. then, when dispatch made its report, that testimony gave support to ksr's parents claims.
Kim Saeron's ex boyfriend submitted a written testimony. Where he revealed about her last days before she unalived…
good info, but that would just mean KSR had even more terrible people around her. i just want to remind people even if they find all sorts of dirt or hidden secrets about the husband, the family, or whatever, these can all be true and KSH was also a predator. If KSH is a predator, he can try to switch the attention to something other than himself and we must be cautious of that. regardless, i hope we focus on ksh's investigation no matter what.
To all memebers, please think twice and avoid seeing things in black & white. That´s fine to share opinion, but…
that's not a good argument. legality and morality is not the same. in korea, they want their celebrities to be good role models because it's a communal society. that is why even if it's not illegal, celebrities can get cancelled for affairs or very disrespectful behavior. ksh is not fully cancelled. he is soft cancelled because there are allegations against him and businesses dont want to risk being with him and he ends up guilty. this is common practice everywhere. the difference is in america, you only get cancelled for being the worst human possible (kanye's half album was trending #1, which would be inconceiveable in korea).
by your logic, KSR's family can't be trust because the family lied about the aunt and her husband.
anyways, knetz are shitting on him right now for the press conference.
no it was not dispatch that said it was an open secret. it was the acquanitance ON DISPATCH who made the claim. and of course they're not going to write a narrative about not dating minors. they went to verify if there is substance to the allegation, which they did, not write a full investigative piece on it, which would require way more manpower, evidence, and support that dispatch would definitely not have. seriously, it really seems like you're not grasping the picture. has tmz ever done a professional investigative report that uncovered some deep dark industry secret writing a 20 page dossier or a hour long broadcast? why would you expect dispatch to?
we don't know WHY the media didn't cover ksr's parents story and the immediate conclusion shouldnt be because of corruption.
look, you still havent provided a single reason what would motivate dispatch to support ksr by giving more credibility to garosero if they were working with GM..... that makes absolutely no sense at all whatsoever. had dispatch just shut the hell up or debunked ksr's family, the people would assume garosero is stirring up shit again. why would GM using dispatch literally shoot themselves on the foot?
it's getting "buried" because our information is coming from garosero, the alex jones of korea, and lee jin ho, some comedian youtuber(???)... Until a reputable investigative journalist covers this or authorities share their findings it wont get touched by any reputable mainstream media.
also the final signature isn't Kim-il sung lmaooo. it's "writing from faraway, kim il byung". can your korean american friend actually read korean? this sounds like ai tried reading it....
there are two points now. what likely led to ksr's death and did ksh groom ksr? just because i know it's going to get crazier from now, we should remember there are at least 2 topics in case you narrow in on one.
the article is there are secret couples where it is an open secret, but that does not mean every secret couple is an open secret. some are obviously closed secrets.
yes, i think dispatch is on ksr's side. it would be crazy to think otherwise unless there is proof like a board of director in dispatch is ksh's family member or ksh is dating someone of high position in dispatch. dispatch was able to convince MANY people with their article on ksh's close acquiantance. this is because when ksr's parent tried to find other outlets and they refused her, some might assume corruption, but a lot of people assumed she didn't good evidence. then, when dispatch made its report, that testimony gave support to ksr's parents claims.
ksh is not fully cancelled. he is soft cancelled because there are allegations against him and businesses dont want to risk being with him and he ends up guilty. this is common practice everywhere. the difference is in america, you only get cancelled for being the worst human possible (kanye's half album was trending #1, which would be inconceiveable in korea).