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Replying to Riya Nov 20, 2025
Title Moon River
Whom did you refer arrogant..
We'll agree to disagree. Kang is playing a part so while his arrogance is partially real (well he's supposed to become the next king and is already the regent as his father is "incapacitated", and that mattered in Joseon, him not being somewhat arrogant would not be credible), he's also playing into the narrative that's he is self-centered and shallow for the council's benefit (eating popcorn during sessions, leaving for the city to have fun, calling doctors for beauty treatments, harassing the taylor with his color patterns...). Again we'll see... But in every sageuk the king and/or crown prince are arrogant šŸ˜‚ it's part of any trope including them
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Replying to InspectorMegre Nov 20, 2025
Title Moon River
I personally think she acted DUMB by returning stuff to CP. If I were her, I would take the silk and the jewelry…
She has a huge crush on him, so yeah... It's misplaced pride. It is kind of ironic because she reacts strongly as she is jealous of his dead wife... And she actually is the dead wife šŸ˜‚ it's funny and tragic at the same time
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Replying to Moon River Nov 20, 2025
Title Moon River
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So the fact they were drowning at that moment doesn't qualify as immediate danger in your books? They were both unconscious after the kiss and the thread reconnecting... So no they were not conscious. They woke up the next morning. So I don't understand your comment.
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Replying to Riya Nov 20, 2025
Title Moon River
Whom did you refer arrogant..
Well that's Joseon where men more important than women... And he is the Crown prince, not just some regular guy. That said he genuinely loved his wife and showed his devotion (he was ready to die for her and that's why the king asked Yeon-wol to kill herself) ... He put his life on the line for Dal-i in episode 4. So I give him a hall pass for that for now. I think it's mostly the shock talking. We'll see...
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Replying to InspectorMegre Nov 20, 2025
Title Moon River
OK now - WHY did the old man say they should never meet? And WHY did they get into the swap?
He said the pull between them would be too strong as severed threads want to reconnect. That said when he saw they met again (looking at the flower) he didn't look overly worried
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Replying to InspectorMegre Nov 20, 2025
Title Moon River
@Valicious I am reposting a post from @Valicious because it will be very helpful. I just tried, I cannot post…
No worries to repost. Happy it helped 😊
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Replying to gmat6594 Nov 18, 2025
Title Moon River
Thank you for the comprehensive time line. You mention that Yeon-wol died 5 years ago. It seems that they are…
This is the official version presented by Kang. Of course Yeon-wol didn't die, she became Dal-i. We saw it in episode 1.
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Replying to umasou007 Nov 17, 2025
Title Moon River Spoiler
I just realized that once they soul switch (and if they don't swap back sometimes like Secret Garden) ep 4 might…
We saw sequences in some videos where Kang is using his bow and fighting (Dal-i stands in the background), I guess he's back in his body, or Dal-i became super good at fighting šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
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Replying to Valicious Nov 17, 2025
Title Moon River
We don't have the names for all the characters... Like the queens for example or the brothers of the dowager.…
Okie I posted the detail separate as good as I could
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On Moon River Nov 17, 2025
Title Moon River
Timeline as requested, this is based on what was explained in episode 1 and 2, and further confirmed in episode 3.
King A dead king, father of Je-woon
King B current king, father of Kang
They are half brothers. King A is the son of Dowager Queen Han. King B is the the son of a concubine.
Queen 1 mother of Je-woon first wife of King A
Queen 2 mother of the young Crown prince, second wife of King A, fate unknown but likely dead
Queen 3 mother of Kang, late wife of King B

There are 3 blocks of events.

The queen 1 was accused by the Dowager queen Han of adultery which caused her suicide by poison and the deposition of Je-woon as crown prince who was exiled. Kim Han-cheol already played a part there but he wasn't as high ranked.
King A remarried and had another son.

Then the events of the Gyesa year happened. First the two brothers of the dowager queen Han were killed weakening her, then King A and the crown prince were poisoned during sword practice (Kim Han-cheol was in charge of preparing the swords), then the Royal Physician died during an acupuncture session. Kim Han-cheol rose to a higher power as he became Left minister (previously he was minister of war).
He put the late king's half brother, King B on the throne (son of the old king by a concubine). Apparently his plan from the start was to marry his daughter to the Crown prince Kang, but 'unfortunately' he met Yeon-wol and married her.
5 years ago Han-cheol decided to frame Yeon-wol in the death of Queen 3. He forced the deposed crown princess to suicide, pushing King B to ask that of her. This left the place empty for that marriage...

We are here now. In the meantime Kang has decided to go for revenge investigating the events of the Gyesa year, but while there are hints Kim Han-cheol is behind all of that, there are no definite proof. That's why Je-woon went to Qing to find if some elements still exist

As for the timeline. We know for sure Queen 3 and Yeon-wol died 5 years ago.
The death of Queen 1 happened when Je-woon was about 8-10 years so 15 to 20 years ago.
The Gyesa year was around 10 years after Queen 1 death.
So Queen 1 died 20 years ago.
The Gyesa events happened 10 years ago.
Yeon-wol died 5 years.
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Replying to InspectorMegre Nov 17, 2025
Title Moon River
There are so many confusing posts about the timeline and the events. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE POST IT FOR ALL OF US,…
We don't have the names for all the characters... Like the queens for example or the brothers of the dowager. I can try to repost everything with letters for the characters we don't know
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Replying to ponnu Nov 16, 2025
Title Moon River Spoiler
I have a theory. What if the sml's mother did had an affair and that was with the left minister and the sml is…
That's actually very interesting... I keep thinking the dowager being so set against Je-woon is suspicious... In sageuk they usually support their grandchildren, but then Moon River does certain things quite differently.
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Replying to Valicious Nov 16, 2025
Title Moon River Spoiler
Which ones? I haven't found one yet and I usually love to go into those. The timeline is a little tricky if you…
Glad it was helpful. I know how frustrating it can be when you like something and you're not sure it's been done properly
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Replying to Valicious Nov 16, 2025
Title Moon River Spoiler
Acting brazen? She's the crown prince, nothing she'll do will be seen as brazen šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ it's more Kang who will…
You said brazen I just repeated your words. Wow you get easily triggered by a light comment 😳 let's not talk again. I'm here for fun not to be attacked over nothing jeez...
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Replying to Valicious Nov 16, 2025
Title Moon River Spoiler
Which ones? I haven't found one yet and I usually love to go into those. The timeline is a little tricky if you…
No, the late king is his uncle and Je-woon's father. Kang and Je-woon are cousins. The son the late king had with his second wife died with him in the Gyesa year. The dowager only has Je-woon as her grandson.
Yeah the whole adultery question is open. Why did the dowager accuse her? She probably didn't like her for whatever reason and wanted to replace her with someone of her choosing. Maybe she was too outspoken. For now we don't know her motivation. At one point I thought that she might have indeed cheated and that potentially Je-woon was not the late king's son after all... But even Han-cheol says he is and that his mother was unjustly accused. The dowager is a snake that's for sure.
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Replying to gmat6594 Nov 16, 2025
Title Moon River Spoiler
We can see that the body swap will lead to the Crown Prince learning how the others live, from women to the lower…
The sequences we saw show him in the palace... So I doubt he'll do much of that. If he leaves the palace he'll go to Je-woon who is hardly a pauper... But he remembers what Yeon-wol said in the past and Dal-i told him again on how to be a good king... This is what hit him and started the whole process of reconnecting the thread between them
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Replying to gmat6594 Nov 16, 2025
Title Moon River Spoiler
Home remedies for removing a mole are often temporary. I think that at the right moment, the Crown Prince in Dal…
Acting brazen? She's the crown prince, nothing she'll do will be seen as brazen šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ it's more Kang who will have to remember he's a low ranking scholar or eunuch when in Dal-i’s body
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Replying to kdramaddixxion Nov 16, 2025
Title Moon River
He'd probably adopt one and do the same thing. It has happened in other historical K-Dramas before.
That was the norm though in Joseon. You don't have a son you adopt one from a lesser branch of your family or from an ally. It's not deception, it's how it went.
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Replying to Nicholas louie Nov 16, 2025
Title Moon River
Might be the only one, but I'm more interested in the second leads story than the main leads. This is good though…
I was interested until she became a total villain with no global vision of the game she tries to play. She acted with a plan that was bound to fail because she ignored how this could affect Je-woon and what he wanted. That for me effectively ended any story between them. It looks more like we now have Han-cheol+Woo-hee against Kang+Dal-i+Je-woon.
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Replying to Valicious Nov 16, 2025
Title Moon River Spoiler
Which ones? I haven't found one yet and I usually love to go into those. The timeline is a little tricky if you…
Sure it's quite complicated I wrote things down... So... There are 3 blocks of events. The first queen was accused by the Grand Queen Dowager of adultery which caused her suicide by poison and the deposition of Je-woon as crown prince who was exiled. Kim Han-cheol already played a part there but he wasn't as high ranked. His father remarried and had another son. Then the events of the Gyesa year happened. First the two brothers of the dowager were killed weakening her, then the king and the crown prince were poisoned during sword practice (Kim Han-cheol was in charge of preparing the swords), then the Royal Physician died during an acupuncture session. Kim Han-cheol rose to a higher power as he became Left minister (previously he was minister of war). He put the late king's half brother, the current king on the throne (son of the old king by a concubine). Apparently his plan from the start was to marry his daughter to the Crown prince, but 'unfortunately' he met Yeon-wol and married her. He decided to frame her in the death of the queen. He forced her to suicide, pushing the king to ask that of her. This left the place empty for that marriage... We are here now. In the meantime Kang has decided to go for revenge investigating the events of the Gyesa year, but while there are hints Kim Han-cheol is behind all of that, there are no definite proof. That's why Je-woon went to Qing to find if some elements still exist
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