How is the female lead here? I'm talking her skills/intelligence/ML's help need? 1-10 scale, please, where 1 is a "Damsel in distress on estrogen ", and 10 is "Mary Sue on steroids"?
I never understand why people say the FL was weaker than the ML. So she was evenly matched with Wu Yuan and Huang…
Cheers. Thnx for the discussion.
Btw - you can find some impressive and well-positioned female leads in Micro Dramas. Partially, it's possible because some of them don't have MLs (imagine that!!!), but there are examples like the "Queen of the Battlefield", where the ML is a powerful general on his own, yet the only moment he had to step in was to replace a spear with a wooden stick, so the female lead won't kill her opponent :).
There is also a wide variety of female leads running the shows in strategising, planning, scheming's way..
I never understand why people say the FL was weaker than the ML. So she was evenly matched with Wu Yuan and Huang…
Well, the JTL's heroine was supposed to be an unbeatable assassin, but already in the 1st episode some schmucks soldiers injured her with a poisoned knife, so she had to take an antidote which limited her Qi/skills for half of the drama and hide inside ML's house. And it went downhill from there...
She had some truly great moments and impressive kills, but unfortunately, in the long run, the writers didn't have the guts to make her look like the legendary assassin she was supposed to be. And she was supposed to be so legendary that the ML (former chief of the spying agency) even didn't know she was alive nor what she looked like.
And don't start with her desire to get pregnant during the most important mission of her life. Talk about a character killer...
Among the dramas I had a chance to watch, the most powerfully impressive was the female lead in "Veil of Vengeance". But it was possible only because the ML was pretty much useless. When we are talking about "Power Couple", the MLs are always stronger; it's just a question of by how much.
I never understand why people say the FL was weaker than the ML. So she was evenly matched with Wu Yuan and Huang…
Yeah, yeah, female leads and women getting poisoned so the writers have a cop-out to make her/them appear weaker is a typical one. Only amnesia is missing :).
Regarding "JTL" - the ML was clearly stronger, even if based on previews and trailers, it was supposed to be rather a female-centric show.
I never understand why people say the FL was weaker than the ML. So she was evenly matched with Wu Yuan and Huang…
Episode 1, or 1-2? They had the same type of opponents ambushing them - FL got injured and had to be helped/attended by the ML, while the ML walked through them later like nothing when they tried to stop him travelling (or vice versa, not sure now about the order).
And like I said - even if I believe that ML was presented as the strongest fighter between them, at least the difference was not big. Unlike, for example, in "Journey to Lowe" where it was more obvious.
i feel like it's the story of the ML as told through her perspective kinda. i kinda see the vision. I am arguably…
That's seriously advanced level of mental gymnastics to explain why making potentially a mostly ML-centric drama from the mostly fL-centric novel is a good idea. Lol :).
Jiang Yueru, the ancestor of the Jiang family and a powerful immortal, saved Jiang Ping'an sixty years ago and helped him establish the Jiang family. Jiang Ping'an left his property as her dowry. Sixty years later, Jiang Yingshan and his brother, descendants of the Jiang family, colluded with the warlord to seize the family property. When Jiang Ping'an fell seriously ill, she returned to the mortal world and entered the Jiang mansion to expose the conspiracy, display her divine power to intimidate everyone, and sweep across the human realm.
I fully agree with the 1st paragraph.And I can only laugh through tears regarding the 2nd, as it pretty much happens…
Fortunately, smart FLs still somehow exist if there are no MLs around, but the latter restricts it to mostly webnowels and/or Vertical Dramas.
In Big productions, it's rare; probably "Blossom" is the most shining example. Also, the FL in "Are you the One" was highly all-around capable, but first she was buried in an amnesia trope, and later she felt more like a side character.
And Empresses in the Palace was great - for me, the smartest character was by far the Concubine Cao, before she got dumbed down and poisoned by the Emperor and the Empress.
This show can’t seem to decide what it wants to be. The constant shifts from a morally heavy moment straight…
I fully agree with the 1st paragraph.
And I can only laugh through tears regarding the 2nd, as it pretty much happens in all dramas featuring supposedly smart/badass/strong female leads if they are supposed to have a love interest. It's like a f 'n clockwork.
"The Double" along with "Romance of the Female Soldier" remains the most overrated show in recent years among the ones I was somehow able to finish.
Top female thief who got imprisoned, sounds almost as appealing as the supposedly badass female assassin/killer/general who needs to be rescued by the ML in the 1st episode...
same here. just like FL in love in the clouds... too much telling, not enough showing
Well, it's the Female Lead reality - they are powerful, until the drama starts and/or ML is around. Then, even if they do not become useless, they are clearly playing the 2nd fiddle to the ML.
Even in supposedly FL-centric dramas (not necessary talkin about "Are you the One?" here).
That's the problem with cdramas They choose plot focused female centric novels and then them into basic romance…
Yeah, it's exactly why I am unsure if I would like to see my favourite novels transferred to the screen. I can already see female leads there getting dumbed down and the romance expanded, so the ML can save her over and over and over again. Or the villains suddenly running circles around her to create more tension.
Someone who is a big "Malicious Empress" fan told me recently that ML is quite insignificant there during the first half (or maybe even 2/3) of the story, and for quite some time, it's pretty much only about the female lead and her revenge. I wonder how it will be presented in the drama, especially with an ML's star power.
Thnx for the discussion.
Btw - you can find some impressive and well-positioned female leads in Micro Dramas. Partially, it's possible because some of them don't have MLs (imagine that!!!), but there are examples like the "Queen of the Battlefield", where the ML is a powerful general on his own, yet the only moment he had to step in was to replace a spear with a wooden stick, so the female lead won't kill her opponent :).
There is also a wide variety of female leads running the shows in strategising, planning, scheming's way..
She had some truly great moments and impressive kills, but unfortunately, in the long run, the writers didn't have the guts to make her look like the legendary assassin she was supposed to be.
And she was supposed to be so legendary that the ML (former chief of the spying agency) even didn't know she was alive nor what she looked like.
And don't start with her desire to get pregnant during the most important mission of her life. Talk about a character killer...
Among the dramas I had a chance to watch, the most powerfully impressive was the female lead in "Veil of Vengeance".
But it was possible only because the ML was pretty much useless.
When we are talking about "Power Couple", the MLs are always stronger; it's just a question of by how much.
Only amnesia is missing :).
Regarding "JTL" - the ML was clearly stronger, even if based on previews and trailers, it was supposed to be rather a female-centric show.
They had the same type of opponents ambushing them - FL got injured and had to be helped/attended by the ML, while the ML walked through them later like nothing when they tried to stop him travelling (or vice versa, not sure now about the order).
And like I said - even if I believe that ML was presented as the strongest fighter between them, at least the difference was not big. Unlike, for example, in "Journey to Lowe" where it was more obvious.
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Jiang Yueru, the ancestor of the Jiang family and a powerful immortal, saved Jiang Ping'an sixty years ago and helped him establish the Jiang family. Jiang Ping'an left his property as her dowry. Sixty years later, Jiang Yingshan and his brother, descendants of the Jiang family, colluded with the warlord to seize the family property. When Jiang Ping'an fell seriously ill, she returned to the mortal world and entered the Jiang mansion to expose the conspiracy, display her divine power to intimidate everyone, and sweep across the human realm.
But, maybe anti-Japanese dramas got stopped from getting mass-produced.
In Big productions, it's rare; probably "Blossom" is the most shining example. Also, the FL in "Are you the One" was highly all-around capable, but first she was buried in an amnesia trope, and later she felt more like a side character.
And Empresses in the Palace was great - for me, the smartest character was by far the Concubine Cao, before she got dumbed down and poisoned by the Emperor and the Empress.
It's for girls fascinated by the ML's cheekbones.
And I can only laugh through tears regarding the 2nd, as it pretty much happens in all dramas featuring supposedly smart/badass/strong female leads if they are supposed to have a love interest. It's like a f 'n clockwork.
"The Double" along with "Romance of the Female Soldier" remains the most overrated show in recent years among the ones I was somehow able to finish.
But, on the other side, I like it 9.1 here more compared to 8.6 for "Legend of the Female General".
As always, a lot depends on what you are looking for and expecting from the dramas you plan to watch.
Impressive.
Unfortunately, Douban rating is stuck at 3.0 :(
Then, even if they do not become useless, they are clearly playing the 2nd fiddle to the ML.
Even in supposedly FL-centric dramas (not necessary talkin about "Are you the One?" here).
I can already see female leads there getting dumbed down and the romance expanded, so the ML can save her over and over and over again. Or the villains suddenly running circles around her to create more tension.
Someone who is a big "Malicious Empress" fan told me recently that ML is quite insignificant there during the first half (or maybe even 2/3) of the story, and for quite some time, it's pretty much only about the female lead and her revenge.
I wonder how it will be presented in the drama, especially with an ML's star power.