Pedro Guida

I am a gay man! Are you insane? Do you need pictures, full name, ID print? Pathetic. So dumb you can't even tell Pedro is a male name.

I have also defended the actors, by the way.

I can't believe you are attacking me that way. You are really rude. YOU can't accept different opinions. You go on and on that the problem is not with the show, but with the watchers!

I'm tired of you making personal attacks all the time because you want to force your opinion. You are disgusting. Please, never talk to me again. Blocked.

People should *NEVER* attack the actors, especially if they don't like how they are written, because actors don't write their own lines.

I'll watch unsubbed and then subbed. I always watch all episodes more than once, anyway.

True. I feel sad for those who think this is a good example of a realistic relationship.

I hate that you keep spouting that people who don't like this are naïve people who don't like realistic storylines. I am a gay man and if you think this is a good example of realistic relationship, I feel sad for you, because this is an example of a toxic, manipulative relationship between two very immature people. And there are many valid criticisms in regards to how poor the writing is - the characters' actions are completely inconsistent and flip flop only to fit the plot and there are many plot holes - and how bad the directing is.

Stop with "there must be something wrong with the watchers if they don't like the show". Perhaps you love it and that is great. But there are legitimate reasons not to like it.

The greatest sign that your argument is absurd is the fact that most people enjoyed the first series of Together With Me, which by no means was a happy series, as the characters were in deep angst and conflict until the very last episode. And yet people liked it. Because it was better written and directed.

The actors are very good actors and are not at fault they were given such poor material. I am appalled that anyone would attack the actors. You can dislike a work of fiction without bullying real people who were just doing their job!

It's sad you need to invalidate other people's opinion to feel good about your own. Pathetic.

I think it's also because fans always demand a new season and I am guilty of that. I was so excited for Together With Me: The Next Chapter. But I was foolish not to realise that these writers can't write a couple that is already together, because Bad Romance was not good.

As pertaining to understanding Dark Blue Kiss, Kiss The Series is not necessary. as Pete and Kao barely have a storyline of their own.

I didn't get that vibe at all. He was beaming at Pete's presence this week and jumped him last week. It just seemed that, having forgotten his birthday, he didn't want to stay up late to chat on the phone because he had an early morning.

I'm dropping it after this episode. What I am sure that will happen is that they'll continue to have melodrama until the last episode and then everything will magically be resolved, regardless of the fact they have been just horrible to each other and all three couples are cheating.

He kissed, had sex and slept together while Knock was visiting his parents, coming out and telling them how much he loved Korn. But, to be fair to Korn, this was the first time the whole season he didn't seem to abhor Korn.

Ah! The irony of posts complaining about... complaining! By the way, melodrama isn't that realistic, especially when characters actions have no consistency and just happen to fit the plot and huge errors in continuity are committed. Also, even if it were realistic, when it comes to fiction, realistic doesn't equal good.

I think most people complaining would write a show without gaping plot holes, that would establish sympathy for the characters before throwing in the wrenches and would show adults acting more like adults and less like children.

I really love their chemistry.

Great series. Skip the sequel (Together With Me: The Next Chapter) and the prequel (Bad Romance) as the characters behave completely differently, the continuity is completely messed up and you will end ep hating everybody.

Let me just add that Tul Pakorn, who is a brilliant actor when given good material, knocked that scene out of the park. He was really, really good.

That is a very fair point. And fans of Bad Romance should be very happy. Couple that has no chemistry, bicker, nag and fight all the time without ever sitting down to talk anything over while Knock acts like every time Korn touches him is a rape attempt and Korn making huge life choices without ever thinking of how they impact Knock are exactly who they were in Bad Romance. At least in the beginning. It ignores who they were at the end of bad Romance, after they grew, but it's fateful to who they started out. And if you liked that, it's absolutely fair. The series was, very honestly, called "Bad Romance", after all, so what you got was what you saw and I can't fault them for delivering just what the title promised.

They revamped the characters for Together With Me and improved the directing and writing and many people, like myself, really enjoyed Together With Me far more than Bad Romance. Given this was titled "Together With Me: The Next Chapter" and promoted for months with a dozen of photoshoots where the actors posed like people who cared about each other, we might have thought the quality would be on par with Together With Me.

But, you are absolutely right. Chronologically, it makes sense this is more like Bad Romance. It's a little strange the character arc seems to be exactly the same, as if all the progress they had made in Bad Romance has been forgotten by the writers. But it is a fair point.

Something being somewhat logical, though, doesn't really make it good. And to me this isn't as good as Together With Me. Or good, period. But for anyone who thought Bad Romance was top notch, which is their right, I can see how this might be OK.

I agree with all that. However, Knock was shown to be a jerk to Korn from episode one, treating him rudely and turning him down at every chance, before any of these problems started. We have not being shown a single scene the entire season - aside a dream sequence - were these two *mutually* treated each other with any nicety or respect. Sure, Korn started out really trying to be a good fiancé to Korn, who - again, before any family drama - basically treated him like a leper.

If you did not establish in the beginning of the season that Knock loves Korn - he has treated him terribly the entire season - this sudden change of heart came conveniently out of the blue for drama's sake. There was no set-up for this to be a pay off.

OK. A quick review here:

Knock:
1# Admonishes Korn every time he touches him and seems annoyed and disgusted by his partner's advances.
2# Doesn't want to help out with house chores and expects his partner to be his maid.
3# Spends his money irresponsibly and relies on his partner to make ends meet.
4# Goes to work drunk or hangover and gets irritated if his partner, who is also his colleague and whose career is also affected, points this out.
#5 Refuses to have any adult conversations about their problems.

Korn:
1# Kicks out his live-in fiancé the moment his father is in town, even though he's not financially dependent on him and despite of the fact that when he got engaged to Knock he specifically promised Knock that he would not put what others would think above their relationship again.
#2 Forces Knock into having a pretend relationship and has no regard for how this situation is affecting his fiancé of years and thinks he is completely unreasonable for not being on board with this charade.
#3 Cheats on Knock. With their boss.
#4 Refuses to have any adult conversations about their problems.

Do people and relationships like these exist in real life? Sure. But these are not really good people and these relationships don't really work out. Also fiction is supposed to be entertaining. And you can make shows about bad people (House, Breaking Bad, etc). But in that case, you have to show the bad people enjoying being bad, not being melodramatic about it.