Jon Smith

Thank you for the update. I still think I’ll wait until all episodes have aired before maybe binge-watching the series. I had such high hopes for this series, but so far it’s been a waste of my iQiYi VIP membership.

So, he’s not the one who shot them? I really haven’t watched since episode 3. Well maybe there’s hope for this series after all.

3 episodes in and I still don’t know 🤨what the hell this series is about! I’m trying to give it the benefit of the doubt, but I seriously doubt if I can waste my time on episode 4. I’ll just come here and read the comments when the series ends. They’ll definitely be more entertaining. Other than the scenery, I don’t see any awards in the works for this series. I wouldn’t even send out invitations at this point. Also, who doesn’t know, other than the main character, that the Mr. Lue guy is shady as hell! How is he everywhere something bad happens, but no one suspects him. Really?! If he’s not the one who shot them in the forest at the beginning, I’ll be a monkey’s 🐒 uncle. Plus, what’s with the leather gloves all the time,? Either he’s a germaphobe 🦠 or a serial killer, no in between. Whoever bankrolled this should be requesting a full refund. Heck, I need to be compensated for the over 2+ hours I spent on the 3 episodes with interest.

Okay, NONE of Dew’s “friends” are really his friend! Joey is just Aun’s enabler, making me wonder if he secretly has a one-sided love for Aun. How else do you keep excusing such bad, near psychotic, behavior! He pulled a gun on a total stranger that he bumped into, for goodness sake!

Aun is a spoiled brat who thinks he’s entitled to everything because he wants it, even the love of someone who has made it known she doesn’t like him, forget love him. Mint is no better! She’s worse than Aun because she is wrapping her possessive behavior as friendship! She’s asked Dew to be more than friends more times than Aun has asked her to be more than friends.

Where did this idea that because you have feelings for someone, they are under some obligation to reciprocate come from? I see it in so many Asian series (K-drama, Chinese, Japanese, BL). Your feelings are YOUR feelings! I hate emotional blackmail, Ughhh!

Why is this series starting to have a “HIStory 3: Make Our Days Count feel,” to it! Every time they mention that, “So doesn’t have much time left,” my mind flashes back to Yu Shi Gu and Hao Ting. I don’t think I can take another heartbreak like that. Just when I was falling in love with Mon and So. Also, I don’t think Mon will be able to take another major loss, he’s still grieving for his dad. I rather he move away at least then there’s hope.

The one bright spot, “Kao’s mom” is also “So’s mom.”

I apologize for being super late to this series but better late than never. I’m finally at the end and think I understand most of the plot devices and twists, except one. In the temple when they found Red Blade masters body in the coffin, what actually were they looking for and does that mean Nie Husiang still has it since he switched his brother’s body?

Also, someone told me the last four scenes are out of order, with the Cloud Recesses scenes happening after we hear LWJ say “Wei Ying” in order for the ending to get past the censors. Any truth to this? I rewatched in that order and it does make more sense.

This show had me feeling so many different emotions, especially the ending, but that’s not what I want to talk about. Instead I want to talk about how one person’s jealousy can destroy so many peoples lives. The fact that N’Man couldn’t accept that P’Keng wasn’t into him set into motion so many of the unfortunate events of this story.

Personally, I don’t understand this idea that I see in a lot of Asian dramas that if someone confesses their feelings for someone the other person should feel obligated to acknowledge them or even accept them. P’Keng had the right to come to terms with his sexuality in his own time, it didn’t gave N’Man the right to put P’Keng in a situation to force him into admitting his sexuality just so N’Man could be with him. I think he was the catalyst for everything and his personality was manipulative, scheming, and conniving all the way until the end. Plus, don’t get me started on the “fan girls” who only cared about possibly being the girlfriend of “P’Keng” and the notoriety it would bring.

@bakaao That's a perspective on their relationship I hadn't thought about. I guess this is a perfect illustration of a couple who just "deserve" each other but not at all in a good way.

No problem, I'm right there with you, however this dichotomy still fascinates me.

@Synchonicity or any other woman willing to provide perspective.

I don't want to keep replying to your reply, but you hit on something that I still don't comprehend and maybe you can help me. Not being a woman, I don't understand why so many heterosexual women are fascinated by and often fanatical about boy love, especially women of Asian descent. I know in a lot of Asian cultures homosexuality is still frowned upon because of the "dishonor," (i.e., lack of producing an heir) it can bring to the family. However, if you look at the fan base, the novelists, and script writers for most BL series, it's 90% women, and 95% of those women are heterosexual.

BL culture has started to spread to countries outside of Asia as well (the United States, the European Union, Mexico, parts of South America). I think companies like GMMtv, Thunder TV, and Line TV are going to have to adjust their business model and begin including English subs (which can then be subbed into these other languages) with the release of series episodes as the number of people watching and following these shows in the other countries steadily rises and that rise, is again driven by heterosexual women.

I think I understand why gay men follow these series because growing up in the past, programming depicting homosexual relationships between men that wasn't pornographic in nature was virtually nonexistent. So, I think that's why a lot of gay men, younger and older are drawn to these series. They are able to see themselves in the characters struggling with a lot of the things they struggled with as a teenager; understanding feelings, same sex attractions, the reception of family and friends and learning how to navigate all of that successfully or semi-successfully. I think it is good for this generation of young gay men to see healthier depictions of relationships than those presented in porn movies. However, that still doesn't explain why so many heterosexual women follow these series and why they are so diehard about it.

I loved this series, however, rape is not a happy ending! It is assualt!

@Synchonicity, Thanks for the response and trust me, after this season, I'm no longer on Team Farm. As you say, we all are responsible for the choices we make and the actions we take and his actions this season were very Bright-like. However, I do believe that these "Bright-like" behaviors have their genesis from Farm's interactions with Bright in TWM and as a result it has given him a warped idea of happiness, intimacy, and love. Unfortunately in TWMTNC his choices and actions are based on that misguided idea with little regard to the pain he's causing others as long as he's temporarily satisfied. I recall the bathtub scene in TWM in which Farm is asking Bright why he needs to sleep with other guys and promises him that he'll be his "good boy." This same phrase "good boy" was used in their last scene in TWMTNC even though Farm is now a college graduate.

I think you'll agree that in the first season, he was really naive and uninformed. Personally, I can understand his sense of intrigue at seeing these guys make-out so publicly especially since, from what I've learned, public affection is kinda taboo in Thai culture. I know I was curious and probably watched longer than decorum dictates the first time I saw something similar in a club bathroom. The difference is that I was a little more "worldly" and grounded than Farm's character in TWM. I was more amazed that the guys didn't have more self-respect for themselves than to do it in a dirty bathroom with people walking in and out, I think Farm was fascinated that people were actually doing it. It's this naivete that Bright, and others like him, play on with a lot of younger guys. So even if he was honest, he really wasn't sincere and there is a difference between the two.

However, my real issue is with the fact that Bright's predatory behavior of sexual grooming, sexual exploitation and ultimately sexual assault is seemingly okayed by the fact that he and Farm end up together in the end. I worry this kinda of idea will become the norm in BL dramas. For instance, in the final episode of Love by Chance, which for the most part, I loved watching, but the fact that Techno is raped by Kla is equally disturbing. This is especially disturbing when one of the story arcs of the series is the fact that Tar's sexual assault has left him so traumatized that he's afraid of and cannot express any type of intimacy with someone. However, Kla and Techno's "relationship" is showcased at the different fan meets as a love story. I worry that people will confuse totally unacceptable under any circumstances behavior as another way of expressing love and that's wrong!

What am I going to do with myself now that this series has end? Short answer, the same thing I did before and during....keep living and breathing. This show had the potential to be so much more than it was, but in the end, it was what it was... a once-weekly distraction. Korn and Knock are back together, as expected. Perhaps now they and others will recognize that staying in love and building love is different from falling in love, the latter is a whole lot easier than the previous.

My apologizes to Yihwa as she really didn't sleep with Art, although she did come awfully close. I applaud her for taking the time to step back and realize something in her relationship with Cho was broken and needed to be fixed. Otherwise, if everything was working properly there would've never been room for Art to come between them in the first place. Cho showed that love can cover a multitude of sins. His character demonstrated that he's further along on his path than I on mine, because I don't think I would've been as willing to forgive as he was. Perhaps that, true forgiveness, is the takeaway from this series I was supposed to get and what I need to work on in my own life.

My two favorite people from this series, hands down, are Fai and Rit, It was good to see young people in this generation portrayed as having and holding onto a high level of morals and standards of decency. Too often, the moral conscience of this generation is called into question leaving people to wonder if it still exists. These characters demonstrated that you can be young, have fun but still be a "good" and "upright" person.

Lastly, what can I say about the writers decision to keep Bright-Farm together....nothing. I've already expressed my opinion and it hasn't changed. It sends the wrong message! It sends the wrong message! It sends the wrong message! In spite of everything else that was questionable and seemed to miss the mark about this series, for me, this is the line in the sand that will not allow me to rewatch this series ever again, nor recommend it to anyone else.

@anchorenomore @PotterPirate The entire time I was watching this I was thinking did they even have a script or did they just follow TayNew around one day and filmed it. The last scene talking about Phuket had me laughing until I cried because I'd just watched the episode of "OffGun Fun Night" where Off and Gun were giving them a hard time about what happened on that trip.

@Synchonicity please do not put any of those ideas out in the atmosphere. When season 2 of Love by Chance happens, notice I didn't say if, but when season 2 happens I don't want any of the craziness from this show to rub off. I'm just going to be happy that Korn and Knock are still together at the end and I'm throwing everything else away. Besides, I'm already heartbroken by the "2 Moons" casting drama and messiness, my heart couldn't take it if LBC ended up like that. I thought this series was gonna help heal that wound but that didn't happen. I need to be stupid rich so I can start my own production company and bankroll season 2. Our Skyy did help and hopefully Dark Blue Kiss (adore TayNew) and Theory of Love (love OffGun even more) will mend the rest.

@Pedro. If I'm not mistaken, Bright wasn't Knock's brother but his cousin. Personally, I'm glad the sister isn't in this series thus far. I didn't really like her character. She seemed so self-righteous about Knock and Korn but she was dating a student. Granted, Phubet was the one initiating the relationship but she wasn't doing too much to stop it either. People in glass houses throwing stones always annoys me.

Okay, I thought I had made peace with the terrible messages being sent by this series; cheating, lying, scheming & backstabbing, etc., and then this episode shows me I still have some ways to go on my path. Knock forgiving Korn, I'm okay with. Cho waiting on Yihwa, I'll go along with but this Farm back with Bright scenario, truly upsets my spirit.

Bright and Bright 2.0 (Pete) are the quintessential examples of sexual predators and to vilify the behavior of one but to condone and exonerate the behavior of another sends a very bad message. Let's make this perfectly clear, what Bright did to Farm in the last series was sexual grooming, sexual exploitation, and sexual assault. It was wrong! It was wrong! It was wrong! And I'm going to say it, if Farm was a female character, I believe that more people and fans would be justifiably upset, instead of happy, that they got back together.

That "love" song Farm wrote to Bright isn't a declaration of love but evidence that Farm is still messed up in the head and honestly, Rit didn't do him any favors by sending him back. If he really loves Farm, if any of them really love Farm, they need to get the boy some psychological counseling. And, yes, I know I'm projecting but I need for people to understand sexual exploitation is wrong no matter who it is done too and condoning it for the sake of entertainment is not acceptable.

Now that I'm off my soapbox, anyone else not happy with the fact that they're only devoting one episode to giving Pete and that Y-girl the payback that they deserve? Korn and Knock should've just made up in episode 10 so the last 3 can be used to take down Bright2.0.

First I would just like to say thank you to kisskh commenters, as expected these comments are off the chain, so much better than the show!
@SugaVirus, you do make a valid point about how easily people are willing to forgive Korn but not Yihwa. I think there's some inherent gender bias creeping up from people's psyche's that they might not even be aware of. I also think Yihwa's character is much easier to dislike during this series. As people have said, she protects her virginity from Cho, her boyfriend, just to lose it a stranger (Art) that she may or may not have feelings for. Then she waits around and falls asleep at Cho's house just to wake up early the next morning to tell him she might have feelings for someone else and she would like to take a break, not breakup, so she can figure out her feelings. However, when the guy she cheated with breaks up with his girlfriend and expresses his feelings for her, she tells Art she he had know right to assume her feelings. This after allowing herself to be dragged by Art from the library and waiting for him to make the declaration to the girlfriend. Finally when your best friend tells you that she should not be stringing Cho along, she neither agrees nor disagrees but instead wants Fai to feel sorry for the emotional turmoil she created while also manipulating the best friend who is distraught over lack of employment by telling her of a potential job opportunity through one of her friends. SMDH.
@Gottillc, @Not a Robot, I had forgotten that Korn punched the hell out of Bright when he tried to push up on him and that was before he was even officially with Knock. Previously, I said alcohol can make people do things they regret later and I stick by that statement, however, I'm gonna have to rethink the notation that Korn's decision-making process was "alcohol influenced." However, if Knock is willing to look past it, who am I to hold a grudge.
@NoirRoseHeart, now you know how I feel about every scene I see with Bright. As I said before, Pete is just Bright2.0. I was looking at a video on YouTube and someone actually had the Bright/Farm pairing in the top 10 of BL couples. It caused me to do a vaudeville spit-take of melon soda all over my couch. It shows that there are people who see nothing wrong with the less than positive interactions of the characters and even like it.
@HaiYuLin I've been indifferent to this installment of the series for a while now. It's good that the writers got people talking about some very serious issues but I think it was more to get viewers than actually address issues. At this point, I'm team @Paulo Junior, just give me a happy ending between Knock and Korn, the rest, you can just throw away...just throw it away.

Is it wrong that I'm super excited for the next episode? I know many consider this series a major train wreck but it's like when you see an accident on the road, "you can't help but slow down and watch." I'll be back tomorrow for the second show, also known as "the comments."

Wow, "ship" is a term I had never really heard but I'm assuming it's just a shorten form of the word relationship. If that's the case, I would believe that TayNew are a real couple based upon the clips I have seen of their real life interactions. I wasn't sure at first because I've been told that Thai males are more expressive with each other in general, but some of their interactions definitely seem more than the brotherly "goofing off." If they are, I'm happy for them and wish them continued happiness regardless, everyone deserves happiness in life.