Vals Stor

Their "breakup" was the least that bothered me and it makes sense now that i read your perspective.
But that repetition of same and same conversations for 13 episodes exausted me hahhahahahahaha
I would prefere a bit of hotter or darker narrative but ok im not the writer.
Overall, it had great potentials both of the story itself but also cause the couple was great, the 2nd leads were interesting, the chemistry between the whole cast was on point, i loved many elements. Especially in the first 3-4 episodes i was literally hooked (yes, despite ML who was creep as hell-i liked that i hated him at first)
I think one of the reasons for most asian dramas to present the woman so full of guilts, insecurities etc, is the fear of provoking the conservative audience. I would prefer a more "slutty" female (e.g like in Hirugao), i mean if both FL and ML were "bad" from the beginning-giving in to an affair cause of pure attraction and afterwards discover that they actually have much more than lust to be together i would find it less pretentious. After all, lets not hide, physical attraction is the 1st factor that attracts us to a potential partner and then comes the rest.
She was full of that in the beginning and then she started liking him because he was revealing her deeper thoughts and truths about her life.
In general i dont agree with that representation cause i believe that "cheating" has to do mostly with our minds, not actions. From the moment you start thinking another person in an erotic way, you cheat. it is what it is-yes its bad-but true. The one thing that distinguishes good people is that they break up with their current partner without fooling him/her and follow their choice.

Its a happy ending, they meet again at her bf's wedding and set a date

Maybe the most deceiving opening intro ive ever watched

Lousy writing.
A great premise that got wasted in such a harsh way, its unbelievable.
Not to mention the over sexual intro which makes you think that you ll watch 2 passionate lovers and you end up watching 2 potentially passionate lovers having a night together in an unbearable slow mo and then boom an unnecessary break up for nothing.
The whole drama was 2 lines repeating back to back:
"you lie to yourself"
"its not your business i hate you because you make me see the truth of my relationship"
"i ll keep pursuing you"
"we are friends"

Did she confess it to him? I cant exactly remember the scene

The whole structure up to ep 8 maybe 10, was just great! The tense, the characters introduction and build up, the excitement!
And then...zero! All we watch and hear is a ML chasing after FL and the same (literally same) lines:
"you are still lying to yourself"
"its not your business"
"i will keep pursuing you"
"we are friends"
The worst part is that the ending comes also in the same way! A nonsense "absence" of the FL so she will grow up mentally up to 100% -according to her words
An unnecessary "breakup" and an unsatisfying predictable ending.
The couple had great dynamics, explosive chemistry but the script line of their attitude -esp of the FL which made also the ML look creepy, was what ruined the whole thing.
No logic, The whole drama after ep 10 makes no progress between the mains.
A total waste

I cant' believe how they ruined a drama with such interesting premise!
Spoilers next comment

There's no way that they still shooting. The drama was obviously already shooted and edited (both parts), they just chose to devide it for some marketing and viewing reasons (as i ve read here from native Koreans who know the industry). It has to do mostly with a modern "Trick" so to keep the audience yearning for more, plus another popular event that's going on and it would possiply drop the numbers if aired as a whole (at least that's what i ve read).
Also the shooting of a drama can not possibly last so many months-no one has that high budget to invest-especially in a heavy show industry that produces hundreds of shows each year

Have you tried a search on Discord or Telegram groups? You may find something there. I dont know about telegram, but im in a group on discord for jap drama and stuff. Maybe there are groups for kdramas too

There are already some kdramas purely lgbtq and many more movies even decades earlier and with explicit content

Because the writer says so.
End of story

Sadly the overdone push n pull is a card thats played by a writer when he\she cant find other elements to built up the dynamics between lovers. Its the most common trap that can turn a story with potentials to cheap melo. (Talking in general but IMO happened in my dearest too) too much unnecessary tragedy.

I can talk but i dont want to as i clearly stated before. I have no intention to continue the conversation with you but you keep insisting. I dont want to convince you about anything and i dont need to be convinced either.
Also, why you keep ignoring my suggestions for the spoiler tag?
For god's sake you re in a public forum and many users dont wanna get spoiled.
Im telling you for the last time:
USE THE SPOILER TAG.
bye

Yes she didnt. because guess what HE DIED. lol Little does it matter if she were to have actual sex with him or not. The promise and manipulation itself by a young girl THOSE times, is disgusting as it is. Maybe it was because she was "family oriented" deep inside i dont know hahah
Well thats all from me really Pls if you continue writing no matter here or else in the comment section, PUT THE SPOILER TAG PLS.

I dont continue the conv im just going to answer you that maybe you didnt see it:
when she was talking to the chubby guy and ask him to marry her, then she asked him to protect her bf's fiance. At that point she said:
"when you come back from war we re gonna do what married people do"
and he left a bit shocked and happy.
You can rewatch the scene to confirm. She clearly promised sex for exchanging the protection of her crush. Dont forget the spoiler tag fgs

I like antiheroes as long as the writer doesn't try to convince me that i should excuse them for everything. This in literature and scriptwriting is called cheap melo. Im stopping here, the conv with you doesnt lead anywhere neither has anything to give to any of us. After all i dont like people who think that manipulation, exchanging favors for sex and murder are just incidents who are exaggerated by viewers. After all i already know that people who value life through "family values" can literally digest anything as i successfully predicted in my first answer to you. Have a nice drama watch

Yes nothing was debunked from my points. You ve got to live with that. I have no intention to continue arguing with you as i find that our conversation leads to nowhere. (about the chubby guy who's death was a very crucial moment to judge her character, see my edit on my previous comment. She never regretted sending him to death. Are you gonna digest that too? Probably yes. Its ok if you re fine with heroes murdering others, as long as you dont consider this as an "imperfection".lol
As for the ML im not on his side either for other reasons.
I had high expectations from that drama but its proven to be a cheap melo, copying relationship dynamics from others.
And please are you kind enough to answer under spoiler tag? Cause you re talking under comment of a person who just watched 2 episodes.
Thanks.

My arguments were never debunked-hence so many people are still finding hard to digest her character the way its shown. Not because she is "bad" but because the writer wants to feed the viewer by force about her "development" which has to do only with survival-not morality.
The chubby guy is not just "a chubby guy" is someone who was led to death in purpose. People in our times go to prison as abettors. Im fine with fictional stuff as long as they can convince me.
Sorry but the "chubby"guy incident makes the FL a murderer. Im not the one who wrote her character. Your complains to the writer.
And no, i wouldnt redeem a character because he/she follows a lover. I dont even give that much of importance to that decision. If she followed him she would be the same for me, because of all the previous facts.
That "all for the family" issue, is something that is going on in real life too, under the myth of "Family" everything can be whitewashed, crimes, abuse, bad behaviors, cheap morals etc. I wont argue with you any more, as i dont try to change anyone's mind, i just point out some things i find at least disturbing about the drama.

I ve got no problem even when pure bad heroes dont get any redemption and never change to be a better person. On the contrary, i find it more realistic. In fact i am more of an anti hero fan.
The only problem i have is when a writer tries to convince me that bad actions and cheap morality, is ok as long as you are a main hero or when trying to convince me that a person changed from bad to good with the excuse of "family orientation" when i never got to see any scene that proves a bit that this person has that family protection element on his/her character. I find it lame and usually happens in cheap to digest melodramas that make people cry for no reason

Is she a friend of yours? We re talking about a fictional character. No im not gonna consider her a good person when she also asked the ML to postpone the wedding of her bf with her fiance. Looks like you are the one who is stuck to defend a fictional character, not me. I have nothing to gain or lose if people like or dislike a fictional heroine.
"make people dislike is not really gonna work" lol
as if im her enemy in real life. Cm' on put your brains together. We re talking about a drama and yes my opinion about the certain character is that her whole development has to do only with the survival fact. Nothing more. Am i supposed to like her because she "got out of the way" and "was not taken seriously"? hahahahhaahah The person is pure trash. And she remained that way, marrying the guy who-with his comrade-suggested her to take the death enemy's path when in the woods. As for your last sentence, yes its lousy writing from the writer. She tried to show a character as family oriented at the last minute, but she forgot to show for 10 whole episodes, even 1 sec of the same character have any interaction with her family that shows care and affection.
Btw, you didnt say anything about that chubby guy that she lead to death on purpose, promising sex. Is that a simple imperfection for a heroine for a romance drama? Bad boys/girls are very good in dramas, im also an antihero fan. But only when the writer doesnt try to convince me that their bad actions are ok as long as they are the mains. No, to lead someone to death so to protect your illegal (morally) crush, has no redemption just because later on you tried to survive. its very lousy writing and shows that you want an audience ready to digest everything cause of a mere melo story.
So you ve got your opinion i ve got mine and thats the end.