I also agree with Li Lun's ideals for friendship, but the problem is he's too idealistic. I think in a way, him…
Maybe. But some part of him couldn't move on. Instead of helping him 'move on', his friend just cooperated with baize goddess to send him straight to prison without any explanations. Also, we are shown how the great demon still cares about his friend in the scene where he mentions Li Lun's good deed in the past in front of the goddess. So, Li Lun must have known that his friend is not completely oblivious to his existence. If the viewers can tell from that scene how much the great demon cares about Li Lun, then Li Lun obviously must've known in the deep recesses of his mind that his friend cares about him too. Maybe this 'caring' aspect of the 'great demon' must've made Li Lu n have high expectations from his friend. Perhaps that fuelled his bitterness & resentment even more. On top of that, the former Baize goddess, and his friend, the great demon never behaved like a real goddess. A real goddess or someone worthy of being called 'great' like the great demon or protectors like them are worthy of being called so only if they could make a difference in someone's life in a positive or good way. They absolutely failed there, & let Li Lun down in this aspect. As for moving on, as I said earlier, it's easy for 'shallow people' to move on. Li lun may be bad, immature, even evil, but he had depth of character and valued deep emotional attachments, so it's 'not easy' for such people to move on.
I also agree with Li Lun's ideals for friendship, but the problem is he's too idealistic. I think in a way, him…
I agree with many things you mentioned here. Yes, I too found Li Lun idealistic. And that's precisely why felt deeply hurt. As for the concept of 'moving on', it's for shallow people. People with depth and genuineness cannot easily 'move on'. However, Li Lun still needs time to mature. But he was never given enough opportunities and chances to mature, grow. Neither the former Baize goddess nor his 'great demon' friend tells him why imprisoning him at his place of birth is beneficial for him. All his dear ones never properly communicate with him, thus, leaving him in the dark --- causing him to misunderstand. I'm not saying his evil deeds were right. But I admire his spirit to fight for his convictions(to see a world where demons have the freedom to move between worlds). As for his other conviction --- to see a world where demons and mortals share worlds, and let natural law take its course --- I'm in a dilemma concerning the 'concept of natural law' he had in mind. But I think he has a point, others shouldn't make decisions for demons all the time esp. , when it comes to their freedom of movement all the the time. Not all demons are like the male lead who doesn't mind living within the bare wilderness forever. I think both Baize goddess & Li Lun needs to find middle ground.
Forcefully imposing laws that have negative effects has always spelled trouble for anyone involved in the long run. It's a fact. Looks like it's high time Baize goddess found a balanced solution instead of thinking all the time that only the ignorant and harmless mortals & deities & gods should have freedom of movement.
You are watching at the back of the TV, I guess?? So, stop being delusional about zhu Yan and lilun it's becoming…
You don't have eyes to see and mind to understand, I guess? Stop jumping to conclusions before reading my comment properly. I never said I was shipping the female lead with Li Lun. What I meant was "I'M A FAN of the character, LI LUN. Because out of all characters so far, I admire (not love, mind you!) him the most so far! And I don't give a fig whether you agree or disagree with my views... 😝 P. S: I never said Li Lun was perfect and logical, lol!
Also, at the basement, Zhu Yan should've used have common sense, and not impulsively touch things like the ever burning wood especially when he sees things like that at the enemy 's lair. Also Zhu Yan never gave Li Lun a proper explanation as to why Li Lun suffered a burn under his attack at that time. Li Lun has to always figure out everything himself. Nobody communicates with him properly nor do they give proper explanations concerning their jntents when they punish him. Everyone (like his friend) reveals all their reasons behind their actions only at the last moment. 😏
The only character I admire so far is Li Lun. At least he has this policy of never retreat. And I love his idealistic notions regarding how true friends are expected to be ready to live and die for each other or be there for each other or defend & fight for each other no matter what the cost. I guess somewhere deep inside his mind, Li Lun always wanted the great demon to match upto his expectations of what an ideal friend should be , but the great demon failed there, & let him down. This must have been one of the causes for his resentment to deepen against the great demon, and his new friends.
Huh? I think They are faithful in following the plot. They added some scenes that makes sense like her dad that…
I think you either misunderstood and mixed up my comments with that of someone else or didn't skim through my comments properly. What I meant was the male lead planned to do a fake wedding scene with the female lead. That was his plan to protect his sister from the vamp female lead(before she gets possessed by our modern day female lead). However, the modern-day female lead as we all know changed the plot because of some of her actions. Also the system compelled her to try her best to change the male lead's mindset towards her, and make him fall for her. It's when she is starting to succeed, that the scenario which you mentioned happens(wherein the male lead compels the female lead to marry him using some kind of puppetry or mind spell because he doesn't want to lose her because he's in love with her and also quite possessive about her). Anyway, this is what I recall after reading the manhua version.
Huh? I think They are faithful in following the plot. They added some scenes that makes sense like her dad that…
Yes, he falls for her real hard --- to the point where he is willing to sacrifice everything for the female lead. It's just that in the beginning, the female lead was compelled to make him feel something for her. She just created the sparks . Gave the male lead the required nudging to make him see her in a different light.
Huh? I think They are faithful in following the plot. They added some scenes that makes sense like her dad that…
Before the female lead changed the plot, it was to protect his sister (like others mentioned here). But after the female lead changes the plot, by making him fall for her, he just uses some kind of puppetry or mind spell to marry him, because he is deeply in love with her, and is possessive about her. But he assumes the male lead assumes she doesn't feel the same way about him with as much depth . But actually that's not true. That's just his assumption. He just assumes that simply because the female lead refused to marry him when he wanted her to(because of some reason. I forgot what it was. Maybe she was upset with him or something. I can't recall properly what it was. Anyway, that's all. For more details, I suggest you read the manhua. It's really engrossing (including the artwork).
Huh? I think They are faithful in following the plot. They added some scenes that makes sense like her dad that…
I'm not wrong (in case by 'other person', you are referring to me. ) Of course, he married her to protect his sister. But that detail is not revealed in episode 1. Also, I was already aware of this detail in the original story (At least as it was narrated in the manhua version) . That's why in the beginning, In my very first comment, I mentioned that they tweaked the original story here & there. Then, some novel readers came rushing shouting out that that's not the case. But I don't agree with them completely because I have my doubts concerning this. Also, I read the manhua --- not the novel. And that too, a year back. I did remember this detail (that he trapped her in a marriage to protect his sister because he was possessive about his sis), but I wasn't sure whether I recalled it right, so I left that detail out.
Huh? I think They are faithful in following the plot. They added some scenes that makes sense like her dad that…
Well, at first, she tries to make him fall for her, and succeeds. When the male lead falls for her, his attitude towards her changes, and now, instead of getting possessive about his sister, he starts to get possessive about the female lead. This is because he doesn't want to lose her. He even keeps her under some kind of mind spell to make her devoted, and absolutely obedient, loving towards him. He thinks hr succeeds, but unbeknownst to him, the mind spell effect wears off after a few days. But the female lead pretends to be undef his love spell, and marries him at night when the weather is stormy. She pretends, and gives in because she loves him. The male lead, of course, finds out later that she wax pretending to be his puppet. Anyway, this is the manhua version of the story based on what I recall. I read the manhua , a year back, so there may or may not be slight inaccuracies re: what I told you. Anyway, based on what I recall, this was what was narrated in the manhua.
Huh? I think They are faithful in following the plot. They added some scenes that makes sense like her dad that…
I'm only on episode 2. Yet to watch subsequent episodes. I read the webtoon version with over a hundred chapters last year. In the webtoon version, the black lotus is even more ruthless in his scheming towards the female lead. And yes, the black lotus does trap the female lead into a marriage with him in the webtoon, but my point is they seem to have tweaked some aspects of the plot in the drama version here and there. But maybe they will introduce all that from episode 3. Will wait & see... P. S: I don't hate this drama at all. Just love the webtoon version more. I just have a doubt whether they followed the webtoon version. Anyway, I don't have anything against this drama even though I love the webroon version of the story more...
Instead of helping him 'move on', his friend just cooperated with baize goddess to send him straight to prison without any explanations. Also, we are shown how the great demon still cares about his friend in the scene where he mentions Li Lun's good deed in the past in front of the goddess. So, Li Lun must have known that his friend is not completely oblivious to his existence. If the viewers can tell from that scene how much the great demon cares about Li Lun, then Li Lun obviously must've known in the deep recesses of his mind that his friend cares about him too. Maybe this 'caring' aspect of the 'great demon' must've made Li Lu n have high expectations from his friend. Perhaps that fuelled his bitterness & resentment even more.
On top of that, the former Baize goddess, and his friend, the great demon never behaved like a real goddess. A real goddess or someone worthy of being called 'great' like the great demon or protectors like them are worthy of being called so only if they could make a difference in someone's life in a positive or good way. They absolutely failed there, & let Li Lun down in this aspect.
As for moving on, as I said earlier, it's easy for 'shallow people' to move on. Li lun may be bad, immature, even evil, but he had depth of character and valued deep emotional attachments, so it's 'not easy' for such people to move on.
As for the concept of 'moving on', it's for shallow people. People with depth and genuineness cannot easily 'move on'.
However, Li Lun still needs time to mature. But he was never given enough opportunities and chances to mature, grow. Neither the former Baize goddess nor his 'great demon' friend tells him why imprisoning him at his place of birth is beneficial for him. All his dear ones never properly communicate with him, thus, leaving him in the dark --- causing him to misunderstand.
I'm not saying his evil deeds were right.
But I admire his spirit to fight for his convictions(to see a world where demons have the freedom to move between worlds).
As for his other conviction --- to see a world where demons and mortals share worlds, and let natural law take its course --- I'm in a dilemma concerning the 'concept of natural law' he had in mind. But I think he has a point, others shouldn't make decisions for demons all the time esp. , when it comes to their freedom of movement all the the time. Not all demons are like the male lead who doesn't mind living within the bare wilderness forever.
I think both Baize goddess & Li Lun needs to find middle ground.
Forcefully imposing laws that have negative effects has always spelled trouble for anyone involved in the long run. It's a fact.
Looks like it's high time Baize goddess found a balanced solution instead of thinking all the time that only the ignorant and harmless mortals & deities & gods should have freedom of movement.
Stop jumping to conclusions before reading my comment properly. I never said I was shipping the female lead with Li Lun. What I meant was "I'M A FAN of the character, LI LUN. Because out of all characters so far, I admire (not love, mind you!) him the most so far!
And I don't give a fig whether you agree or disagree with my views... 😝
P. S: I never said Li Lun was perfect and logical, lol!
Also, at the basement, Zhu Yan should've used have common sense, and not impulsively touch things like the ever burning wood especially when he sees things like that at the enemy 's lair.
Also Zhu Yan never gave Li Lun a proper explanation as to why Li Lun suffered a burn under his attack at that time. Li Lun has to always figure out everything himself. Nobody communicates with him properly nor do they give proper explanations concerning their jntents when they punish him. Everyone (like his friend) reveals all their reasons behind their actions only at the last moment. 😏
I always love watching the male lead's exhilarating transformation scene!
What I meant was the male lead planned to do a fake wedding scene with the female lead. That was his plan to protect his sister from the vamp female lead(before she gets possessed by our modern day female lead).
However, the modern-day female lead as we all know changed the plot because of some of her actions. Also the system compelled her to try her best to change the male lead's mindset towards her, and make him fall for her.
It's when she is starting to succeed, that the scenario which you mentioned happens(wherein the male lead compels the female lead to marry him using some kind of puppetry or mind spell because he doesn't want to lose her because he's in love with her and also quite possessive about her).
Anyway, this is what I recall after reading the manhua version.
It's just that in the beginning, the female lead was compelled to make him feel something for her. She just created the sparks . Gave the male lead the required nudging to make him see her in a different light.
But after the female lead changes the plot, by making him fall for her, he just uses some kind of puppetry or mind spell to marry him, because he is deeply in love with her, and is possessive about her. But he assumes the male lead assumes she doesn't feel the same way about him with as much depth . But actually that's not true. That's just his assumption. He just assumes that simply because the female lead refused to marry him when he wanted her to(because of some reason. I forgot what it was. Maybe she was upset with him or something. I can't recall properly what it was. Anyway, that's all.
For more details, I suggest you read the manhua. It's really engrossing (including the artwork).
Of course, he married her to protect his sister.
But that detail is not revealed in episode 1. Also, I was already aware of this detail in the original story (At least as it was narrated in the manhua version) . That's why in the beginning, In my very first comment, I mentioned that they tweaked the original story here & there. Then, some novel readers came rushing shouting out that that's not the case. But I don't agree with them completely because I have my doubts concerning this.
Also, I read the manhua --- not the novel. And that too, a year back. I did remember this detail (that he trapped her in a marriage to protect his sister because he was possessive about his sis), but I wasn't sure whether I recalled it right, so I left that detail out.
Anyway, based on what I recall, this was what was narrated in the manhua.
He did that to protect his sister because he was in love with her. He is adopted, btw.
Will check out other episodes & decide...
I just expressed my doubt based on first episode...
I read the webtoon version with over a hundred chapters last year.
In the webtoon version, the black lotus is even more ruthless in his scheming towards the female lead.
And yes, the black lotus does trap the female lead into a marriage with him in the webtoon, but my point is they seem to have tweaked some aspects of the plot in the drama version here and there.
But maybe they will introduce all that from episode 3.
Will wait & see...
P. S: I don't hate this drama at all. Just love the webtoon version more. I just have a doubt whether they followed the webtoon version.
Anyway, I don't have anything against this drama even though I love the webroon version of the story more...