FOOD for THOUGHT: For those who think TTJ is not evil, have you ever thought about where he gets his powers from?…
He had a harsh life. That was the only way he could boost his power. Also, there was no one to protect him. He was surrounded by assassins and betrayers all the time. His life would've been pathetic if he didn't take the chance to seize power. In addition, the love thread was yet to sprout in his heart. And he wasn't completely enlightened yet. Also, if you find all this immoral, in real life too, in ancient times, people with power, especially rulers, did behave unscrupulously like Alexander, Asoka etc. They're are still called great. I guess because apart from destroying cities and civilizations like Persian cities, Kalinga etc, they also did some wise deeds especially Asoka the great emperor did a lot more wise, good deeds(like building Buddhist monasteries after engaging in a genocide war) compared to Alexander ( who built good libraries, used to hang out with philosophers, forgave an enemy(Porus)btw). So, I guess, in such cases, their good deeds offset the bad deeds in the ancient world. You can judge Tantai Jin's actions along the same line. He lives in a world that's more like our ancient world (but with fantastical things, scenarios). This is more like the story of Tantai Jin's evolution. Our real life ancient world was flexible where people were more flexible and practical rather than be too rigid. They made decisions depending on what the scenarios demanded. Fantasy world is flexible too where author /screenplay writer has room to experiment with ideas...
Just to clarify, YXW was sent back in time to destroy his evil bone and kill him, not save him.
Yeah. I too recall Ji Ze instructing Ye Xiwu to remove Tantai Jin's evil bone so that he isn't evil anymore. Ji Ze doesn't specifically state that taking out the evil bone will 'kill' Tantai Jin. But again, later in the drama, we see Ye Xiwu saying, "farewell" before she tries to drive the final three nails into his heart. So I'm also confused regarding whether taking out the evil bone will kill only his evilness or will it kill Tantai Jin.
Though I love Cang Jiumin too, I badly miss the dark Tantai Jin. Hope Cang Jiumin turns into the new devil god who knows how to be merciful at the right moments 🙂
Hope to see xiao lin & ye bingchang fall in love truly, sincerely this time.
In the dungeon scene, I absolutely agree with Tantai Jin when he told Ye Xiwu that his pain was greater than hers. Actually, while reading the novel too, I felt the same.
So , watched episode 26 with mixed feelings. I was frustrated with Ye Xiwu (even though I know the reason behind her sudden reversal of feelings). I was frustrated with the way this Ye Xiwu character always jumps to assumptions about Tantai Jin. This time, her assumptions about the little devil god can be justified to some extent, but still, it was not like she kept approaching & helping him with honourable, pure intentions from the beginning anyway. I strongly feel the heartless one was Ye Xiwu in the drama. As for the story in the novel, Ye Xiwu was equally heartless as Tantai Jin (just in a different way than the way he was to her). I strongly deduced from both the novel and drama that Tantai Jin’s love for Ye Xiwu is deeper than her so -called love for him. In fact, based on what I read in the novel, and based on what I saw in the drama, the female lead kept making choices and saying things that pushed Tantai Jin more and more to the dark side resulting in Xiao Lin’s death. It’s as if the heroine is a highly skilled all rounder and good at everything except knowing how to handle an emotionally unstable lover-like- enemy, Tantai Jin😅. As fas as I see, both in the drama and novel, especially in the drama, Tantai Jin is not heartless at all — not as heartless as Ye Xiwu anyway. She keeps pushing him, and the mounting misunderstandings keep pushing him to become more cold, heartless. I really like the drama version of Tantai Jin. I don’t like all aspects of the version of Tantai Jin in the novel, but I started liking that version of him more from the moment the author describes him embroidering the veil for his wedding with Ye Xiwu. Actually, I kind of understand why Tantai Jin in the novel behaves the way he does in the novel. Although that darker version of Tantai Jin isn’t that likeable or pitiable or adorable like the fluffier, cute drama version of Tantai Jin, I realised that I admire, and like the male lead a little bit more than the female lead in both drama and novel.
Anyway, I have a love -hate relationship with both Ye Xiwu and episode 26. Episode 26 made me frustrated, but also made me excited. So many things happened. Episode 26 was so entertaining, epic, intense. I have never seen the lead actors in a xianxia drama become so expressive when they get agitated. The dungeon scene was mind- blowing! Also, I absolutely loved the way Xiao Lin expressed what all he had to say about everyone including Tantai Jin in his final letter. I also absolutely felt touched by the way he took time to talk about Ye Bingchang’s sensitive nature. I was also touched by the way he sent the heart guarding scale to Tantai Jin. I absolutely love that character, Xiao Lin. He was so noble, wise and empathetic. Will miss this character!
I like anti heroes but I think I really like the TTJ in the drama more because the novel version sounds too dark.…
I like both versions, but if he were like in the novel, I 'd find his transformation into his better self towards the end of the drama more believable. Also, I don't have a problem with tormentous, torturous romances with anti- heroes who'll change into their best, positive, good versions in the end and their love stories will get a happy ending.
In my opinion, if everything reflected reality, then this wouldn't be a 'fantasy love story'.
But again, I don't have a problem with this drama. I like both versions --- novel & drama.
Looks like they made thr drama version of Tantai Jin softer than the novel version of that character. Love both versions of Tantai Jin, but I think had they chosen not to tweak the novel version of Tantai Jin character, it'd have made the character of Tantai Jin in the drama even more intense, believable as an anti-hero.
But I like the drama version of Tantai Jin too He's sweet and adorable. Hope Ye Xiwu will be more considerate towards Tantai Jin in the drama adaptation compared to the way she was in the novel.
Oh episode 14 was so interesting, unique! The intimate scenes between Sang Jiu & Ming Ye were so engrossing. Loved the bgm played in that intimate scene. Even if it were the other way round, with Ming Ye drugging Sang Jiu, I have no problems because I understand the relationship of that couple in their story, the scenario they are thrust in or more like the scenario they created for themselves etc. . So I won't judge them with the black & white morals of our modern world.
You know he survived because of the heart scale. Also as far as it is known, cuz obviously no alive Gods, we do…
I Strongly disagree with your views. Maybe the Li Su Su in the novel should understand that keeping people alive by loving them is harder than betraying them , thus, pushing them into even darker side. I think Tantai Jin was quite reasonable uptill the point she drove the nails into his heart. Her betrayal made him totally go dark. And she didn't even tell him he was using her eyes. The author just messed up a beautiful, intense love story that was going smoothly till Li Su Su's soul piercing betrayal scene. Thankfully, the Li Su Su in the drama version doesn't seem to be extremely cold and harsh like in the novel so far.
Also, the so called "close" people close to Tantai Jin tried to kill him or betray him including Li Su Su. Why wouldn't he take revenge? It's quite reasonable. It's a surprise that he still desired Li Su Su ( in the novel which I really don't understand).
Again, I strongly disagree with your views. It just doesn't make complete sense.
I'm simply watching this drama, enduring the sometimes annoying female lead only because I root for the main male lead. I completely support the main male lead both in the novel and drama, especially the drama version. Again, I read the novel only because I admire the main male lead.
You know he survived because of the heart scale. Also as far as it is known, cuz obviously no alive Gods, we do…
I don't know about that, I'm sorry I can't agree with you there. There are several other ways for this plot to unfold without making it extremely torturous. The drama version seems to do a better job at that so far.
You know he survived because of the heart scale. Also as far as it is known, cuz obviously no alive Gods, we do…
I'm unable to still my heart despite knowing the reasons😅. I mean, in the novel, Tantai Jin was slowly coming around, a devil like him was starting to fall for a cold person like her (I mean, the novel version of Li Su Su is definitely colder, harsher than the drama version of Li Su Su). Still, Tantai Jin fell for a person like her who was always working against him. In my opinion, the author could've rewritten & inserted a scene where Li Su Su uses his feelings for her to make him do good things. He even wanted to be blessed on his marriage. Reading all that made me really empathize with him.
That was the only way he could boost his power.
Also, there was no one to protect him. He was surrounded by assassins and betrayers all the time. His life would've been pathetic if he didn't take the chance to seize power.
In addition, the love thread was yet to sprout in his heart.
And he wasn't completely enlightened yet.
Also, if you find all this immoral,
in real life too, in ancient times, people with power, especially rulers, did behave unscrupulously like Alexander, Asoka etc. They're are still called great. I guess because apart from destroying cities and civilizations like Persian cities, Kalinga etc, they also did some wise deeds especially Asoka the great emperor did a lot more wise, good deeds(like building Buddhist monasteries after engaging in a genocide war) compared to Alexander ( who built good libraries, used to hang out with philosophers, forgave an enemy(Porus)btw). So, I guess, in such cases, their good deeds offset the bad deeds in the ancient world.
You can judge Tantai Jin's actions along the same line. He lives in a world that's more like our ancient world (but with fantastical things, scenarios).
This is more like the story of Tantai Jin's evolution.
Our real life ancient world was flexible where people were more flexible and practical rather than be too rigid. They made decisions depending on what the scenarios demanded.
Fantasy world is flexible too where author /screenplay writer has room to experiment with ideas...
Maybe that possibility was possible.
So I'm also confused regarding whether taking out the evil bone will kill only his evilness or will it kill Tantai Jin.
I like his powerful, badass , crazy side more, mixed with sufficient dosage of goodness whenever it's only absolutely necessary.
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Hope Cang Jiumin turns into the new devil god who knows how to be merciful at the right moments 🙂
Hope to see xiao lin & ye bingchang fall in love truly, sincerely this time.
So , watched episode 26 with mixed feelings. I was frustrated with Ye Xiwu (even though I know the reason behind her sudden reversal of feelings). I was frustrated with the way this Ye Xiwu character always jumps to assumptions about Tantai Jin. This time, her assumptions about the little devil god can be justified to some extent, but still, it was not like she kept approaching & helping him with honourable, pure intentions from the beginning anyway. I strongly feel the heartless one was Ye Xiwu in the drama. As for the story in the novel, Ye Xiwu was equally heartless as Tantai Jin (just in a different way than the way he was to her).
I strongly deduced from both the novel and drama that Tantai Jin’s love for Ye Xiwu is deeper than her so -called love for him. In fact, based on what I read in the novel, and based on what I saw in the drama, the female lead kept making choices and saying things that pushed Tantai Jin more and more to the dark side resulting in Xiao Lin’s death. It’s as if the heroine is a highly skilled all rounder and good at everything except knowing how to handle an emotionally unstable lover-like- enemy, Tantai Jin😅.
As fas as I see, both in the drama and novel, especially in the drama, Tantai Jin is not heartless at all — not as heartless as Ye Xiwu anyway. She keeps pushing him, and the mounting misunderstandings keep pushing him to become more cold, heartless. I really like the drama version of Tantai Jin. I don’t like all aspects of the version of Tantai Jin in the novel, but I started liking that version of him more from the moment the author describes him embroidering the veil for his wedding with Ye Xiwu. Actually, I kind of understand why Tantai Jin in the novel behaves the way he does in the novel. Although that darker version of Tantai Jin isn’t that likeable or pitiable or adorable like the fluffier, cute drama version of Tantai Jin, I realised that I admire, and like the male lead a little bit more than the female lead in both drama and novel.
Anyway, I have a love -hate relationship with both Ye Xiwu and episode 26. Episode 26 made me frustrated, but also made me excited. So many things happened. Episode 26 was so entertaining, epic, intense. I have never seen the lead actors in a xianxia drama become so expressive when they get agitated. The dungeon scene was mind- blowing!
Also, I absolutely loved the way Xiao Lin expressed what all he had to say about everyone including Tantai Jin in his final letter. I also absolutely felt touched by the way he took time to talk about Ye Bingchang’s sensitive nature. I was also touched by the way he sent the heart guarding scale to Tantai Jin. I absolutely love that character, Xiao Lin. He was so noble, wise and empathetic. Will miss this character!
Also, I don't have a problem with tormentous, torturous romances with anti- heroes who'll change into their best, positive, good versions in the end and their love stories will get a happy ending.
In my opinion, if everything reflected reality, then this wouldn't be a 'fantasy love story'.
But again, I don't have a problem with this drama. I like both versions --- novel & drama.
Love both versions of Tantai Jin, but I think had they chosen not to tweak the novel version of Tantai Jin character, it'd have made the character of Tantai Jin in the drama even more intense, believable as an anti-hero.
But I like the drama version of Tantai Jin too
He's sweet and adorable. Hope Ye Xiwu will be more considerate towards Tantai Jin in the drama adaptation compared to the way she was in the novel.
I will always miss Ming Ye .
The intimate scenes between Sang Jiu & Ming Ye were so engrossing. Loved the bgm played in that intimate scene.
Even if it were the other way round, with Ming Ye drugging Sang Jiu, I have no problems because I understand the relationship of that couple in their story, the scenario they are thrust in or more like the scenario they created for themselves etc. . So I won't judge them with the black & white morals of our modern world.
I think Tantai Jin was quite reasonable uptill the point she drove the nails into his heart. Her betrayal made him totally go dark.
And she didn't even tell him he was using her eyes.
The author just messed up a beautiful, intense love story that was going smoothly till Li Su Su's soul piercing betrayal scene.
Thankfully, the Li Su Su in the drama version doesn't seem to be extremely cold and harsh like in the novel so far.
Also, the so called "close" people close to Tantai Jin tried to kill him or betray him including Li Su Su. Why wouldn't he take revenge?
It's quite reasonable.
It's a surprise that he still desired Li Su Su ( in the novel which I really don't understand).
Again, I strongly disagree with your views. It just doesn't make complete sense.
I'm simply watching this drama, enduring the sometimes annoying female lead only because I root for the main male lead.
I completely support the main male lead both in the novel and drama, especially the drama version.
Again, I read the novel only because I admire the main male lead.
There are several other ways for this plot to unfold without making it extremely torturous. The drama version seems to do a better job at that so far.
I forgot all about him able to see the future part...
Good theory.
I mean, in the novel, Tantai Jin was slowly coming around, a devil like him was starting to fall for a cold person like her (I mean, the novel version of Li Su Su is definitely colder, harsher than the drama version of Li Su Su). Still, Tantai Jin fell for a person like her who was always working against him. In my opinion, the author could've rewritten & inserted a scene where Li Su Su uses his feelings for her to make him do good things. He even wanted to be blessed on his marriage. Reading all that made me really empathize with him.