ML: It was me. I never imagined back then that I'd do such a thing.ML: can not move beyond my origin pointNow…
Yeah but if we just think it in a basic way: If they come back in a time where they "replace themselves", it means : they can not choose where they appear (when obviously the device is able to let them choose not only the time but also the space, so first illogism in the concept).
Then, their new self (in the temporal boucle) is erased and replaced with the time travel being. We see they don't remember the life of the new timeline, they just have the memories of their old timeline. As a example, the scene where SH mother tell him is past story. A bit illogical and on-the-nose dialogs (we guess the self of this timeline already know that and she told him many times). But ok, as we audience, we need to know that, there is this exposition scene on the nose.
THEN when SH leave this time... we have to suppose that the normal self of this timeline come back. But what this SH know now ? If we stick to the situation, he know nothing. It's like he was in coma. So the time traveler SH live months then quit... The new self SH should then have like... a giant life hole. Many months passed and he know nothing about what he have done. A kind of memory loss. As it was done by the time traveler SH. OF COURSE... all this is put UNDER THE RUG by the screenwriter.
So, as I now say often... korean screenwriters aren't good about this kind of plot-line. There is always a point when they prefer to focus on something else and forget the sci-fi logic. Or maybe worst: they don't set the sci-fi logic first and just make it on the way as they need. As weird it can looks, I'm a bit ok with that. Because a story need twists and emotions first. But when it becomes too messy, really, I reach my limits and can't believe in the story anymore.
I think it's a bait to catch the ghost because they put a tracking device in his clothes. I don't think they are…
I like this episode because it's not really confusion, just it goes a bit too fast. But I prefer fast paced stories, I'm ok with that! It's thrilling, it makes I like it and can spend some time to better understand or rewatch. What I don't like is the really confusing situations, like beginning of episode 7 with the weird non-revelation about SH not being the son of the janitor... Or the whole TKEM drama, lol!!!
Gosh! My favorite screenwriters. Empress Ki ones. Incarnation of money, Giant, History of the salaryman. AND.... with Jong Suk?!! wow! With the director of "While You Were Sleeping"?!! I can't see a way how this drama won't be great. There will be a lot of good comedy I'm sure. Just the title give an idea of that.
ML: It was me. I never imagined back then that I'd do such a thing.ML: can not move beyond my origin pointNow…
Thanks, good resume. I don't like the thing about "replace themselve", not accurate in this kind of SF. I feel it's a short-cut to not complicate too much and focus more on the other points. So I can understand why the writer makes that. Now, we can just accept it's the rules of her universe and stick with that. "can not move beyond my origin point". It was something I guessed before but without any proof. Or maybe there was an hidden clue in the drama before that made me think that, without remember what.
The problem is I can't see a woman fall in love with Manok. So maybe. But now I think more about that... Manok is a criminal but he don't look like a raper. Or I missed something before. I don't remember the list of his previous crimes.
I think it's a bait to catch the ghost because they put a tracking device in his clothes. I don't think they are…
lol, I saw the tracker too, but forgot too at the end of episode. I was thinking about a lot of other things at this point. I was asking myself: why the ghost don't help him in the building after the prison break. Then remember they said before: the ghost probably do nothing, because now the ghost know they set-up a trap for her, in the previous timeline. Yeah, we have to think about a lot of things during the episodes, and during this time, we miss other things.
See the cliffhanger. Manok escape but miss the FL car just for two seconds. Then the ghost is on a moto and sees…
Yeah, and anyway, it's more the kind of plot we could see in a kmovie, something like old-boy. Not a plot of kdrama. Too harsh. And I was wrong about the DNA thing too. As SB is fully related to Manok. It's more like he could be her brother.
See the cliffhanger. Manok escape but miss the FL car just for two seconds. Then the ghost is on a moto and sees…
Oh s..t, you are right, I forgot something : the ghost said the time she comes from. Was something like 2090. So it needs one more generation. Grandparents. The attitude of SB during the episode and the cliffhanger gave me a wrong idea.
From my understanding. Saebyeok and Manok don't have to go together to create Ghost blood line. Even though Saebyeok…
It's probably that, so it avoids the writer to set-up a rape scene. (see my comment later). But in another way... it's weaker and far less provocating.
Episode 9 is good. Of course, as I expected, it don't answer to some holes in the time travel process, but go…
See the cliffhanger. Manok escape but miss the FL car just for two seconds. Then the ghost is on a moto and sees that. Logic is next episode: Ghost come back in time and help Manok so he escape right in time to go in FL car. Then, it's a bit like a date... It depends if the writer have the balls to do that. But with what we get from the story before, Manok and FL have to have sex and have a girl... the ghost. Or at least, have another child and this child will give birth of ghost. Basicaly, the ghost organise a rape in this case. But because the DNA test isn't sure 100%, maybe there is a plot-twist (that's help the writer to do something less immoral), and the ML is involved in the birth instead of Manok. I don't know yet, we'll see.
lmao saebyeok manok and ghost are related. Ep9 ended with more qstns how gonna they tie up all in last ep?
For many reasons we got before, it was obvious than ghost and janitor son was related. It's even a thing we guess since the start, even without clues. What is nice here, it's with who else he's related. Answer in episode 9.
My mind is strange. Every time I watch an episode of this, I don’t really have trouble following or understanding…
Some points are still confusing, or just it's easy to miss a line or forget a line. I'm a bit in the same case than you. Then someone talks about the DNA test. And when watching I think it was obvious, but then the comment say it's a probability (and quite low), so I know I missed something in the line. The line wasn't catchy enough to say it loud.
Episode 9 is good. Of course, as I expected, it don't answer to some holes in the time travel process, but go all in... about the family and character stuff. It start with a very long dialog scene. Objectively, not a good one. Not enough visuals and flashbacks, and should have been spread before, with some voice over or anything. Still, it's the best thing could do the writer at this point. We can have a good resume and understand everything at this point. So later... the mind-blowing scenes or twists have a strong basis and are entertaining. I have an idea of what the cliffhanger could lead, but can't tell it here, need a spoiler tag.
If they come back in a time where they "replace themselves", it means : they can not choose where they appear (when obviously the device is able to let them choose not only the time but also the space, so first illogism in the concept).
Then, their new self (in the temporal boucle) is erased and replaced with the time travel being. We see they don't remember the life of the new timeline, they just have the memories of their old timeline. As a example, the scene where SH mother tell him is past story. A bit illogical and on-the-nose dialogs (we guess the self of this timeline already know that and she told him many times). But ok, as we audience, we need to know that, there is this exposition scene on the nose.
THEN when SH leave this time... we have to suppose that the normal self of this timeline come back. But what this SH know now ? If we stick to the situation, he know nothing. It's like he was in coma. So the time traveler SH live months then quit... The new self SH should then have like... a giant life hole. Many months passed and he know nothing about what he have done. A kind of memory loss. As it was done by the time traveler SH. OF COURSE... all this is put UNDER THE RUG by the screenwriter.
So, as I now say often... korean screenwriters aren't good about this kind of plot-line. There is always a point when they prefer to focus on something else and forget the sci-fi logic. Or maybe worst: they don't set the sci-fi logic first and just make it on the way as they need. As weird it can looks, I'm a bit ok with that. Because a story need twists and emotions first. But when it becomes too messy, really, I reach my limits and can't believe in the story anymore.
I can't see a way how this drama won't be great.
There will be a lot of good comedy I'm sure. Just the title give an idea of that.
I don't like the thing about "replace themselve", not accurate in this kind of SF. I feel it's a short-cut to not complicate too much and focus more on the other points. So I can understand why the writer makes that. Now, we can just accept it's the rules of her universe and stick with that.
"can not move beyond my origin point". It was something I guessed before but without any proof. Or maybe there was an hidden clue in the drama before that made me think that, without remember what.
I was asking myself: why the ghost don't help him in the building after the prison break. Then remember they said before: the ghost probably do nothing, because now the ghost know they set-up a trap for her, in the previous timeline. Yeah, we have to think about a lot of things during the episodes, and during this time, we miss other things.
It start with a very long dialog scene. Objectively, not a good one. Not enough visuals and flashbacks, and should have been spread before, with some voice over or anything. Still, it's the best thing could do the writer at this point. We can have a good resume and understand everything at this point. So later... the mind-blowing scenes or twists have a strong basis and are entertaining. I have an idea of what the cliffhanger could lead, but can't tell it here, need a spoiler tag.