I wish I had watched this before The Veil, that one coloured the way I'm looking at this (particularly in ML's…
I'm not fan of american shows, but if you wan't to see this kind of drama with lot of good sport scenes, watch Friday night light. Story center on the coach rather than on the manager. There is a near documentary feeling in the show. It's made by a great cinema director, Peter Berg, guy how made famous movies like Deepwater Horizon or 22 Miles.
The drama is good, and no need to know something about baseball or even to like that. At episode 7, I spotted something looking like a plot-hole. Or really, I can't understand this situation. The owner of the club hire Baek Seung Soo, so why just a few times after, he already wan't to fire him and replace him with another guy ? It don't make sens.
I finally watched this and the director claimed this is his own original idea but its clearly a copy of Kaiji…
I didn't read the manga, but have to say it's far better to watch the anime first than the movies. It's made in a way the emotions and intensity are really high. Season 2 is a bit less good in the way the situation about pachinko is sometimes too long, but there is also huge rewards because it lead to so awesome scenes. First part of season 2 and its conclusion is also so great.
I'm also an absolute fan of the japanese drama "Liar game". Here too, it's not deadly like squid game is. But intensity is far better, well, everything is far better, and ultimate smart and mind blowing content, with manga-like crazy montage. A real piece of art, for a low budget. Just with few money, talentuous people can make content far better than anything else, and make feel there is as many money on this than on squid game.
Squid game violence is almost free violence. Violence for nothing, in the way it don't have an effect, except to be shocking for a few time only. It feel empty. Look more like an american show than kdrama. You know, many deaths but nobody care. Also, I can't classify squid game as a kdrama, it's rather a movie cut in parts. Because it's not the kind of content a kdrama can have, too much violence, people smoking, sex scene, etc.
Very good drama. Almost all is ok, great acting, great directing, good script. High emotion. I usualy don't like stories about psycho-killers, but this one was worth watching.
Director Kim Chul Gyu made Hwang Jin Yi in 2006, if you watched this drama, you could see it don't look like a 2006 drama, it was 10 years ahead about quality.
I give a plus to your review, even I think I liked the drama much than you. Acting was great, and at episode 4 I was conviced with some great scenes and a troop of ugly and bad people well made. But on the long run, yes, it's quite grotesque. We know it's a drama, so not too dramatic, when real events of the story should be more disturbing. The good guys are victorious, far too easy, with rocky music and slow motion when the band walk. A bit too overthetop and unrealistic. Grotesque is the word. My note is 7 too, what is still good. The drama is never boring and there is punchy, good scenes all along, and a wonderfull and sexy woman antagonist.
I am a huge fan of Korean drama but have managed to avoid Squid Games as it sounds rather violent, even reprehensibly…
Not really. You can read my comment on the drama thread, 6 day ago. It's a quick review without spoiler. Overall, the drama fall flat. With also some flaws like : "people tell about their life" in some boring scenes. Main character start as an anti-hero, looser-gamer. So they tried to make it like Kaiji. Except they need half an episode for that, instead of Kaiji fast pace (I speak about the anime only, that is far better than the movies). Then Kaiji remain faithfull to its character when squid game anti-hero loose quickly its background, and we don't feel it's made into action later. So, the character background could be just something else. I don't know why the drama have so much success because everything almost was already made elsewhere. Maybe a good publicity. And probably, people don't know from where the ideas come. So it's a bit like the "liar game" korean drama. You can find it nice when you watch it first. But it's quite a bad drama if you compare with the original japanese drama.
there is a fierce battle to know what is the most boring drama in history. Goblin or Hospital Playlist ? I think before HP, Goblin was the most boring but not anymore. HP is more boring. So I'm sorry for Goblin because it was its only way to be first about something.
Not great and depressing. Most of the ideas come from the manga/anime Kaiji in a far less good version. (with a copy-paste regarding the bridge game). The most amazing thing: Squid game accumulates deaths, while in Kaiji, it is not a death game (although there are some deaths sometimes), and yet the nervous tension and suspense are much higher in Kaiji. So... Squid game puts in scene some deadly situations... without really feeling the danger or the anguish of the characters, who seem to walk around in there like in a vacation weekend. The positive points of the drama are the scenes that are original and do not come from another movie/series of the same genre (Battle royale, hunger game, etc). The costumes for example. Or the staircase room. Another positive point, referring to Eye wide shut, or even Salo, the rich people who take advantage of the games. Rather realistic in a way, and scary because it exists. However, the performance of the English speaking actors is mediocre. Well, rather, as usual in kdramas. I think that it remains well seen especially since the sets are excellent (painted bodies, we do not know if they are real or not). And we are used to this kind of poorly held roles in kdramas so we can overlook the rendering.
The end is total frustration!!(see more in spoiler)
So.... how Luna can breath in the void and don't suffer void decompression. 10-8 Pa ! And what happen next ??? Also... how can water replicate without law of matter conservation ? It don't make sens, even the drama think about to say it.
It make a motivation to watch this drama. Look like a drama with some makjang but not too much. Kind of like Queen of ambition maybe. I put this on my to watch list.
Thank you about your review. You made the list of all mistakes I don't wan't in a semi-realistic SF drama. It's better to watch a movie like Appolo 13. I don't expect SF stories to be perfect about science accuracy, but it need something real. A movie like Interstellar is good about that, it take real science, just twist it a bit when story need, but not too much. And like you, I can't stand to see Astronauts without seriousness, speaking and conflicting like everyday people. Real astronauts are also selected because their psychological stability and cold blood. Just see Dave in 2001 space odyssey.
Finaly I watched all. No spoil in the comment. Last episode of season 3 : it start like an standard last episode you get in some dramas. Not bad, but you know, just you get the future life of the remaining characters. And last part of the episode... wooooooo!!! Just a perfect ending, highly emotional and quite unexpected.
Sure! You seemed like a big fan of the drama. :DAnd you seemed to be fascinated with a lot of Kdramas' writers.…
Yes, I watched these dramas (except Arthdal Chronicles). These writers are very good and they know a lot about history. Not only big history, but also all details of daily life. It's wonderfull to watch these dramas, their world is so real and lively, always surprising about everything. With lot of suspens and high emotion as well. I should write them on my list of favorites writers by the way.
I think you made a good resume of why some people was lost, and how the drama contains enough points for us to understand all. Even that, it's not so easy and need to rewatch it. Of course, rewatch is such a pleasure with this drama, that it's not a problem. It look like you got well some tricks and explanation, and understand the "manhwa world" as a meta concept. If you wan't to see what can do another fan of this drama, I advice you to read my profile and go to my blog. I wrote a season 2 of the drama, written in the same way of the season 1, as I studied hard the original screenplay of the drama. Cheers.
Suggestion: if you found this drama confusing or full of plot holes.. do rewatch it. Trust me all of it will make…
You are right. Most of people see plot-holes where there isn't. And they didn't undestood the action when they think it's a plot-hole. Maybe it still could be done better, so the drama explain a bit more. But there is a problem of time in this drama, so it's like a movie, no more time to explain everything. It's a 17 episode dramas made as a 16 episodes one during production. And, what's funny: they don't see the real few plot-hole (yes there are few, but nobody notice it). Also, there are some case that are not "plot-hole" but rather "grey zones", as basic rules or phenomenon. I think it's best for storytelling when it's used.
At episode 7, I spotted something looking like a plot-hole. Or really, I can't understand this situation.
The owner of the club hire Baek Seung Soo, so why just a few times after, he already wan't to fire him and replace him with another guy ? It don't make sens.
Season 2 is a bit less good in the way the situation about pachinko is sometimes too long, but there is also huge rewards because it lead to so awesome scenes. First part of season 2 and its conclusion is also so great.
I'm also an absolute fan of the japanese drama "Liar game". Here too, it's not deadly like squid game is. But intensity is far better, well, everything is far better, and ultimate smart and mind blowing content, with manga-like crazy montage. A real piece of art, for a low budget. Just with few money, talentuous people can make content far better than anything else, and make feel there is as many money on this than on squid game.
Squid game violence is almost free violence. Violence for nothing, in the way it don't have an effect, except to be shocking for a few time only. It feel empty. Look more like an american show than kdrama. You know, many deaths but nobody care. Also, I can't classify squid game as a kdrama, it's rather a movie cut in parts. Because it's not the kind of content a kdrama can have, too much violence, people smoking, sex scene, etc.
I usualy don't like stories about psycho-killers, but this one was worth watching.
Acting was great, and at episode 4 I was conviced with some great scenes and a troop of ugly and bad people well made.
But on the long run, yes, it's quite grotesque. We know it's a drama, so not too dramatic, when real events of the story should be more disturbing. The good guys are victorious, far too easy, with rocky music and slow motion when the band walk. A bit too overthetop and unrealistic. Grotesque is the word.
My note is 7 too, what is still good. The drama is never boring and there is punchy, good scenes all along, and a wonderfull and sexy woman antagonist.
It's a quick review without spoiler. Overall, the drama fall flat.
With also some flaws like : "people tell about their life" in some boring scenes.
Main character start as an anti-hero, looser-gamer. So they tried to make it like Kaiji. Except they need half an episode for that, instead of Kaiji fast pace (I speak about the anime only, that is far better than the movies). Then Kaiji remain faithfull to its character when squid game anti-hero loose quickly its background, and we don't feel it's made into action later. So, the character background could be just something else.
I don't know why the drama have so much success because everything almost was already made elsewhere. Maybe a good publicity. And probably, people don't know from where the ideas come. So it's a bit like the "liar game" korean drama. You can find it nice when you watch it first. But it's quite a bad drama if you compare with the original japanese drama.
Most of the ideas come from the manga/anime Kaiji in a far less good version. (with a copy-paste regarding the bridge game). The most amazing thing: Squid game accumulates deaths, while in Kaiji, it is not a death game (although there are some deaths sometimes), and yet the nervous tension and suspense are much higher in Kaiji.
So... Squid game puts in scene some deadly situations... without really feeling the danger or the anguish of the characters, who seem to walk around in there like in a vacation weekend.
The positive points of the drama are the scenes that are original and do not come from another movie/series of the same genre (Battle royale, hunger game, etc). The costumes for example. Or the staircase room.
Another positive point, referring to Eye wide shut, or even Salo, the rich people who take advantage of the games. Rather realistic in a way, and scary because it exists. However, the performance of the English speaking actors is mediocre. Well, rather, as usual in kdramas. I think that it remains well seen especially since the sets are excellent (painted bodies, we do not know if they are real or not). And we are used to this kind of poorly held roles in kdramas so we can overlook the rendering.
And what happen next ???
Also... how can water replicate without law of matter conservation ?
It don't make sens, even the drama think about to say it.
(see more in spoiler)
And like you, I can't stand to see Astronauts without seriousness, speaking and conflicting like everyday people. Real astronauts are also selected because their psychological stability and cold blood. Just see Dave in 2001 space odyssey.
And the ending is the same kind of emotion, so, very high.
Last episode of season 3 : it start like an standard last episode you get in some dramas.
Not bad, but you know, just you get the future life of the remaining characters.
And last part of the episode... wooooooo!!!
Just a perfect ending, highly emotional and quite unexpected.
And, what's funny: they don't see the real few plot-hole (yes there are few, but nobody notice it).
Also, there are some case that are not "plot-hole" but rather "grey zones", as basic rules or phenomenon. I think it's best for storytelling when it's used.