agreed - oddly I didn't really care for this drama at first but I got hooked to the second half (ep 8-12) it's…
Hi! How are you ? I think we have similar tastes about many things in dramas. Like here : plot-twists, hitting hard situations, surprising allegeance change, and powerfull tragedy. All this fast paced and savagely rumbling.
I wonder why president park is conscious of being in a time loop and Seo Hae is not aware.
Seo Hae is aware too, you know it when she said "I won't die today". She know she's in a loop because of a diary. Only, I think she's not so aware than broker Park, because Park have more experience (he meet so many people from the future, and know well how download work). It's just a assumption, but maybe Seo Hae don't know how many times she lived her loop. It could be infinite number of times. Or quite infinite. She have just hope to change something, even if she failed before. For now, we don't have the information about what Seo Hae think about her own loop. I don't remember we got that in previous episodes.
A strong episode and some powerfully emotional scenes. I must say though, I knew the music directing was changed…
The change in music director is counterproductive. The new background musics are less dark and deep. One is well placed: 21:55, car chase. effective. Another is badly placed and does not fit the scene: 39:50, Seo Hae injection. (even if this music in itself is good)
Wowwwww !!!! just just finished episode 9 now the fun begin!!! I’m blown away !!! Believed me or not ,Now we’re…
Yes, it was apparent from the beginning, this drama has a larger scale than we've seen before as a drama.
The script is very thorough too, you can see how many points can be connected. Just one example: the comical scene in episode 1 on the plane, with the allusion to Hawaii, which is used again in episode 9 to make sense of what Tae Sul is starting to feel for Seo Hae.
The script has a solid structure and cohesion, with connections in all directions, before and after. It's very difficult to establish a story like that. It's as if the preparation work contains everything in advance, before the writing, at a stage where everything is still vague and abstract for the screenwriter. The result becomes very dense, and no scene, no detail is lost.
I like it so far. Episode 9 was a little surprising for me, meeting a younger version of Seo Hae. I did not expected…
"she was running away from chasing soldiers, fell down a house, then found the diary and skeletons on some building. Lol. So convenient."
Hi! It's on purpose. It happen like that exactly because it's a serie of impossible coincidences and make think it's too much a chance to find the grave at the end. And more : find the grave the day of her birthday. With a message in this telling "Happy birthday". Then you can feel the weight of the time loop, the unavoidable fate, like it always happened like that. Future Seo Hae know she find the diary here, so she write the diary like this and know the diary will be here for her next Seo Hae, next loop. Endlessly.
Only real weakness of this drama was episode 3 to 7, because it's quite repetitive. But episode 8 to 12 make this highly twisted and unexepected. This drama should be advertised otherly because it's one of the most violent drama I watched. And not only violence, but how harsh are some situations. It look more like a violent Korean movie for cinema than Tv. It's ok for me, but I prefer things are more clear about that before.
New item : Horse!I delete this comment because my explanation was wrong.
At this point, what happens next is difficult to do. Months or weeks of work about making the structure of the story and organize details and chronology before writing. You have to make a better decision about these plots and what surrounds them. And you need the help of a specialist of this drama. I have almost forgotten everything already! I am not qualified to write this. Once things are more clear, it will also be possible to think about an ending. It is not necessarily makjang, because the pace of the story is probably slower. Keep in mind that here there are only a few major plot twists. There are also a lot of other things leading up to those plots: - How the app impacts the world. - The way the characters' characters change, to make them do things they wouldn't have done in the past. - The setting at the beginning of the scenario. - The secondary characters, and how they will impact or perhaps significantly alter these initial ideas. - The way the plot-twists found are presented to reinforce their power.
Examples of various ideas.
At the beginning of the drama Shi Eun is going to marry Sun Oh. Jojo, what is she doing? Still a student? Does she have a job? What was she studying again? For her job: it's better to put her in the entourage of Sun Oh. For professional reasons, she has to see him often. You have to give these two characters some time to connect with each other in the beginning. Also, the Jojo-Hye Young relationship has to start in a deteriorated way for X reasons. This could be related to a secondary character, such as his father being released from prison. We can also imagine that the psychophate escapes from prison, for another dramatic plot-twist. The situation between Shi Eun and Sun Oh must be idyllic, like a couple in love. Maybe Jojo is jealous or has some regrets because her marital situation is deteriorated.
Marriage of Shi Eun and Sun Oh. Here, a plot twist. We need someone in their entourage who hates one of them or who is jealous. At the wedding, the person will ask Sun Oh to ring his love alarm for Shi Eun. Minor plot twist: the love alarm can't ring! Humiliation, and hard blow for Shi Eun. To make it more scandalous, why not jojo? Maybe not for the purpose of harm, but just because she's stupid.
Secondary characters. Possible plot twist, a love triangle between Gul Mi and the two brothers Brian Cheon, Duk Goo. This can be made comical by using an element already seen in season 2, when Gul Mi said that Jojo is lucky to have two guys. Here: Gul Mi rings the love alarm of her two suitors! lol! she likes them both. Problem.
The last plot-twist (in the hospital). The information given to the spectator is partial. The spectator does not know that Hye Young has the Helmet item. We just see him putting pressure on Jojo to go to the hospital. It is only when Sun Oh's love alarm does not ring that we know the truth. Or this truth can be given later to make it even more disgusting, when Hye Young resumes a normal life with Jojo, while in reality, he has manipulated everything. No matter: Hye Young's machination will have to be given during a later flashback, to reinforce the power of the plot-twist and to have a scandalizing effect for the spectator. Hye Young dared to cheat!!!
Why does Hye Young change like this? Maybe because of his father. You have to think of some striking lines. Father: you reproach me to steal what is not mine? Very well, but look at you: you don't even dare to take back what is already yours!
New item : Horse!I delete this comment because my explanation was wrong.
Some ideas for the next part...
Jojo visits Sun Ho in the hospital, but he is unconscious. There is no way to check the love alarm, but Jojo sees how bad Sun Ho is. She feels guilty, but also, she starts to love him again. At least, that's what we half guess, with her, nothing is ever certain.
Jojo has the mind elsewhere, and Hye Young notices it well. He doubts and thinks that she is likely to escape from him. So far, Hye Young has always played clean and fair, but he has also reached his breaking point.
Then Shi Eun contacts Hye Young to reveal that there are secret items. Of course, Shi Eun wants the Jojo-Hye Young couple to continue to exist, because as long as Jojo is busy with Hye Young, she cannot steal Sun Ho from her. Hye Young takes advantage of his position in the Love Alarm company to rummage through the secret files. He manages to find a new item: the Helmet. Helmet: this item can prevent someone else's love alarm from ringing.
For the first time, Hye Young decides to play dirty. He puts pressure on Jojo, to force her to reveal that she could still hold on to Sun Ho. She admits that it could be the case. As she is a bit stupid, Hye Young also manages to make her reveal the existence of the Horse, in addition to the Shield, and that the two objects cancel each other out. Even if he already knows it, he needs to do this to complete his scheme. Hye Young proposes to her to get to the bottom of it, once and for all. As soon as Sun Ho is awake, he proposes to Jojo to accompany her to the hospital. If Sun Ho's love alarm rings, it means that Jojo really loves him, otherwise, this story will have to be forgotten. And of course, when they are in the hospital, Hye Young uses the Helmet to prevent Sun Ho's love alarm from ringing!
I am happy she ended up with the man she truly loved. I mean sure do I wish she would end up with Sun-oh, of course…
"I did but tbh Sun-oh only started liking her after he found out about Hye Youngs feelings for Jojo.?"
In a kdrama, this is not enough to prevent Sun Oh from being the final male lead. And besides, we see that his love becomes real. You can have this case treated in the drama Jealousy Incarnate.
One thing also: the scenario starts on a classic basis, the rich and arrogant guy, and the other discreet guy who loves the heroine without doing anything. Here, this framework has been broken, since it is the quiet guy who ends up.
You may have noticed that many people criticize the old framework, or say they don't want to see it anymore. But, we see here that when it is not used, they protest just as much! The reason the Rich Guy - Jerk canvas has been used so much is because it works so well! No matter what the critics say, it's what brings many twists and turns, and a progression of the story. Here, in the season 2 of Love Alarm, the use of this canvas would have made many spectators happy, and especially would have made the season 2 less boring.
But it is clear that the writers did not want to use this. The proof is that they don't give any opportunity to Sun Oh's character to approach Jojo in a natural way, or to win her back in the long run. All he does is to appear very briefly, in a painful way, without bringing anything but his resentment.
Whatever options are used, they do not depend on a pseudo-reality of the characters, but only on the choices of the writers. And the options are all equally valid.
If there's gonna be a season 3,what do you think will happen?- the shield will be removed and JJ rings both love…
I made a mistake with the Horse because I described it as a Lance with more versatility. I realize you did the same: the Helmet is just like the shield, but with an option. But if the Helmet is a weapon, not an armor, it would be better if it acted like this: The Shield prevents the owner's love alarm from ringing. The Helmet prevents someone else's love alarm from ringing. So the love alarm of someone who is in love does not ring, when coming into contact with the loved one. Jojo may well be doubting her feelings, as she often does, in these circumstances. This could be used to help someone heal from a one-sided love, by persuading them that deep down they are not in love.
New item : Horse!I delete this comment because my explanation was wrong.
Plot to clarify: How Sun Oh got the Horse. Reminder: The Horse can be used to force your own love alarm to ring. So it's different from the spear, which makes someone else's love alarm ring. It could be: Brian Cheon (Duk Goo's brother) is greedy and sells rare services only to VVIPs. This could be a source of conflict with his brother. Sun-Oh's mother acquires the Horse item to help her son.
Sun Oh uses the Horse on Jojo without her knowing about it. Jojo normally has a Shield, making it impossible for Sun Oh's Love Alarm to ring. But his Love Alarm is ringing! So she is even more convinced that she is actually in love with Sun Oh, and that her love is so great that it break the shield. Jojo leaves Hye Young and returns to Sun Oh. Side plots: Sun Oh's current girlfriend Shi Eun will suffer a lot, as well as Hye Young.
Jojo and Sun Oh live a perfect happiness. This is too much for Kim Shi Eun, she goes into full bitch mode. She seduces Brian Cheon to get information about the secret transactions of love alarm. She discovers that Sun Oh has acquired the Horse, which will allow her to dynamite the couple Jojo-Sun Ho, in the hope of recovering Sun Ho afterwards.
Kim Shi Eun reveals to Jojo that Sun Oh used the Horse to conquer her. Jojo checks on Sun Oh's smartphone and finds out it's true, the item is installed on his smartphone! Horror ! Drama ! Anger! Resentment. Jojo gets mad at Sun Oh. She understands that she was fooled by this bastard. She rejects him harshly. Sun Oh suffers as he never suffered in his life.
Jojo's love life is now destroyed. Hye Young comes back to her to get her back. So Jojo comes back with the boring Hye Young, since Jojo is a weathervane never knowing what she wants in the end. A new drama occurs, desperate, Sun Oh commits suicide. Or he is victim of an accident because he is not in his right mind anymore, following this harsher sentimental failure. He may have survived, but Jojo doesn't know it. Or he is paralyzed for life.
Duk Goo comes into conflict with his brother Brian Cheon, when he discovers that he has developed special services with unique and secret items, reserved only for the very rich people of the club.
It is then that Duk Goo gives Jojo a vital piece of information: If the Horse is confronted by the Shield, it cannot overcome it nevertheless. The Horse and the Shield simply cancel each other out! Which means one thing: Jojo's feelings were real, when Sun Oh used the Horse on her. If Sun Oh's love alarm rung, it was just because of Jojo's real feelings. Re-Re-drama!!!.......
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I think we have similar tastes about many things in dramas. Like here : plot-twists, hitting hard situations, surprising allegeance change, and powerfull tragedy. All this fast paced and savagely rumbling.
The new background musics are less dark and deep.
One is well placed: 21:55, car chase. effective.
Another is badly placed and does not fit the scene: 39:50, Seo Hae injection.
(even if this music in itself is good)
The script is very thorough too, you can see how many points can be connected.
Just one example: the comical scene in episode 1 on the plane, with the allusion to Hawaii, which is used again in episode 9 to make sense of what Tae Sul is starting to feel for Seo Hae.
The script has a solid structure and cohesion, with connections in all directions, before and after. It's very difficult to establish a story like that. It's as if the preparation work contains everything in advance, before the writing, at a stage where everything is still vague and abstract for the screenwriter. The result becomes very dense, and no scene, no detail is lost.
Hi! It's on purpose. It happen like that exactly because it's a serie of impossible coincidences and make think it's too much a chance to find the grave at the end. And more : find the grave the day of her birthday. With a message in this telling "Happy birthday". Then you can feel the weight of the time loop, the unavoidable fate, like it always happened like that. Future Seo Hae know she find the diary here, so she write the diary like this and know the diary will be here for her next Seo Hae, next loop. Endlessly.
Only, we get this in a drama !! Crazy.
First fight scene in the park was great.
And finaly, Control Bureau had success in a operation !!!
Yooo, champagne !
Then, we have a whole week to break our brain and try to understand exactly what happened. : -DDD
Sisyphus strike again as a excellent drama !
Wooo, what a good episode. First scenes are emotionnaly powerfull.
Why doing this, you get spoilers ?!!
It hit so hard that it's even painfull to watch, so FL suffer in this.
But episode 8 to 12 make this highly twisted and unexepected.
This drama should be advertised otherly because it's one of the most violent drama I watched. And not only violence, but how harsh are some situations. It look more like a violent Korean movie for cinema than Tv. It's ok for me, but I prefer things are more clear about that before.
Months or weeks of work about making the structure of the story and organize details and chronology before writing.
You have to make a better decision about these plots and what surrounds them.
And you need the help of a specialist of this drama. I have almost forgotten everything already!
I am not qualified to write this.
Once things are more clear, it will also be possible to think about an ending.
It is not necessarily makjang, because the pace of the story is probably slower.
Keep in mind that here there are only a few major plot twists.
There are also a lot of other things leading up to those plots:
- How the app impacts the world.
- The way the characters' characters change, to make them do things they wouldn't have done in the past.
- The setting at the beginning of the scenario.
- The secondary characters, and how they will impact or perhaps significantly alter these initial ideas.
- The way the plot-twists found are presented to reinforce their power.
Examples of various ideas.
At the beginning of the drama Shi Eun is going to marry Sun Oh.
Jojo, what is she doing? Still a student? Does she have a job?
What was she studying again?
For her job: it's better to put her in the entourage of Sun Oh. For professional reasons, she has to see him often.
You have to give these two characters some time to connect with each other in the beginning.
Also, the Jojo-Hye Young relationship has to start in a deteriorated way for X reasons.
This could be related to a secondary character, such as his father being released from prison.
We can also imagine that the psychophate escapes from prison, for another dramatic plot-twist.
The situation between Shi Eun and Sun Oh must be idyllic, like a couple in love.
Maybe Jojo is jealous or has some regrets because her marital situation is deteriorated.
Marriage of Shi Eun and Sun Oh.
Here, a plot twist. We need someone in their entourage who hates one of them or who is jealous.
At the wedding, the person will ask Sun Oh to ring his love alarm for Shi Eun.
Minor plot twist: the love alarm can't ring!
Humiliation, and hard blow for Shi Eun.
To make it more scandalous, why not jojo? Maybe not for the purpose of harm, but just because she's stupid.
Secondary characters.
Possible plot twist, a love triangle between Gul Mi and the two brothers Brian Cheon, Duk Goo.
This can be made comical by using an element already seen in season 2, when Gul Mi said that Jojo is lucky to have two guys.
Here: Gul Mi rings the love alarm of her two suitors! lol! she likes them both. Problem.
The last plot-twist (in the hospital).
The information given to the spectator is partial. The spectator does not know that Hye Young has the Helmet item.
We just see him putting pressure on Jojo to go to the hospital.
It is only when Sun Oh's love alarm does not ring that we know the truth. Or this truth can be given later to make it even more disgusting, when Hye Young resumes a normal life with Jojo, while in reality, he has manipulated everything.
No matter: Hye Young's machination will have to be given during a later flashback, to reinforce the power of the plot-twist and to have a scandalizing effect for the spectator. Hye Young dared to cheat!!!
Why does Hye Young change like this?
Maybe because of his father. You have to think of some striking lines.
Father: you reproach me to steal what is not mine? Very well, but look at you: you don't even dare to take back what is already yours!
Jojo visits Sun Ho in the hospital, but he is unconscious.
There is no way to check the love alarm, but Jojo sees how bad Sun Ho is.
She feels guilty, but also, she starts to love him again.
At least, that's what we half guess, with her, nothing is ever certain.
Jojo has the mind elsewhere, and Hye Young notices it well.
He doubts and thinks that she is likely to escape from him.
So far, Hye Young has always played clean and fair, but he has also reached his breaking point.
Then Shi Eun contacts Hye Young to reveal that there are secret items.
Of course, Shi Eun wants the Jojo-Hye Young couple to continue to exist, because as long as Jojo is busy with Hye Young, she cannot steal Sun Ho from her.
Hye Young takes advantage of his position in the Love Alarm company to rummage through the secret files.
He manages to find a new item: the Helmet.
Helmet: this item can prevent someone else's love alarm from ringing.
For the first time, Hye Young decides to play dirty.
He puts pressure on Jojo, to force her to reveal that she could still hold on to Sun Ho.
She admits that it could be the case.
As she is a bit stupid, Hye Young also manages to make her reveal the existence of the Horse, in addition to the Shield, and that the two objects cancel each other out. Even if he already knows it, he needs to do this to complete his scheme.
Hye Young proposes to her to get to the bottom of it, once and for all.
As soon as Sun Ho is awake, he proposes to Jojo to accompany her to the hospital.
If Sun Ho's love alarm rings, it means that Jojo really loves him, otherwise, this story will have to be forgotten.
And of course, when they are in the hospital, Hye Young uses the Helmet to prevent Sun Ho's love alarm from ringing!
I rather see Control Bureau as an army of top-models. ^^
I bought this :
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In a kdrama, this is not enough to prevent Sun Oh from being the final male lead. And besides, we see that his love becomes real.
You can have this case treated in the drama Jealousy Incarnate.
One thing also: the scenario starts on a classic basis, the rich and arrogant guy, and the other discreet guy who loves the heroine without doing anything.
Here, this framework has been broken, since it is the quiet guy who ends up.
You may have noticed that many people criticize the old framework, or say they don't want to see it anymore.
But, we see here that when it is not used, they protest just as much!
The reason the Rich Guy - Jerk canvas has been used so much is because it works so well! No matter what the critics say, it's what brings many twists and turns, and a progression of the story. Here, in the season 2 of Love Alarm, the use of this canvas would have made many spectators happy, and especially would have made the season 2 less boring.
But it is clear that the writers did not want to use this.
The proof is that they don't give any opportunity to Sun Oh's character to approach Jojo in a natural way, or to win her back in the long run.
All he does is to appear very briefly, in a painful way, without bringing anything but his resentment.
Whatever options are used, they do not depend on a pseudo-reality of the characters, but only on the choices of the writers. And the options are all equally valid.
I realize you did the same: the Helmet is just like the shield, but with an option.
But if the Helmet is a weapon, not an armor, it would be better if it acted like this:
The Shield prevents the owner's love alarm from ringing.
The Helmet prevents someone else's love alarm from ringing.
So the love alarm of someone who is in love does not ring, when coming into contact with the loved one.
Jojo may well be doubting her feelings, as she often does, in these circumstances.
This could be used to help someone heal from a one-sided love, by persuading them that deep down they are not in love.
Reminder: The Horse can be used to force your own love alarm to ring. So it's different from the spear, which makes someone else's love alarm ring.
It could be: Brian Cheon (Duk Goo's brother) is greedy and sells rare services only to VVIPs. This could be a source of conflict with his brother. Sun-Oh's mother acquires the Horse item to help her son.
Sun Oh uses the Horse on Jojo without her knowing about it.
Jojo normally has a Shield, making it impossible for Sun Oh's Love Alarm to ring.
But his Love Alarm is ringing!
So she is even more convinced that she is actually in love with Sun Oh, and that her love is so great that it break the shield.
Jojo leaves Hye Young and returns to Sun Oh.
Side plots: Sun Oh's current girlfriend Shi Eun will suffer a lot, as well as Hye Young.
Jojo and Sun Oh live a perfect happiness.
This is too much for Kim Shi Eun, she goes into full bitch mode. She seduces Brian Cheon to get information about the secret transactions of love alarm. She discovers that Sun Oh has acquired the Horse, which will allow her to dynamite the couple Jojo-Sun Ho, in the hope of recovering Sun Ho afterwards.
Kim Shi Eun reveals to Jojo that Sun Oh used the Horse to conquer her. Jojo checks on Sun Oh's smartphone and finds out it's true, the item is installed on his smartphone!
Horror ! Drama ! Anger! Resentment.
Jojo gets mad at Sun Oh. She understands that she was fooled by this bastard.
She rejects him harshly. Sun Oh suffers as he never suffered in his life.
Jojo's love life is now destroyed. Hye Young comes back to her to get her back. So Jojo comes back with the boring Hye Young, since Jojo is a weathervane never knowing what she wants in the end.
A new drama occurs, desperate, Sun Oh commits suicide. Or he is victim of an accident because he is not in his right mind anymore, following this harsher sentimental failure. He may have survived, but Jojo doesn't know it. Or he is paralyzed for life.
Duk Goo comes into conflict with his brother Brian Cheon, when he discovers that he has developed special services with unique and secret items, reserved only for the very rich people of the club.
It is then that Duk Goo gives Jojo a vital piece of information:
If the Horse is confronted by the Shield, it cannot overcome it nevertheless.
The Horse and the Shield simply cancel each other out!
Which means one thing: Jojo's feelings were real, when Sun Oh used the Horse on her.
If Sun Oh's love alarm rung, it was just because of Jojo's real feelings.
Re-Re-drama!!!.......