The next level has been reached! Next level of what ? I found this in the comments: "Don't laugh at the drama, it's disrespectful to those who like the drama."
The very first case of a fusion between a spectator and drama! Probably a time travel bug. The spectator comes from a dystopian future where laughter is forbidden, so movies like "is there a pilot in the plane" or "scary movie" were banned, as well as any other parody. pretty much all humorists in fact. The fusion fails at the end of the time travel, and the viewer finds himself fused with the drama instead of himself.
So what's life like as a living drama? Or more exactly a living TKEM. Not as funny as a living dead, it's not possible to bite and infect others, so that they become living TKEM for example. But that would certainly be the dream.
It's difficult to express even simple things. To a question like "what time is it?" The answer is, "The same time as it was before, plus some additional time."
A living TKEM has something in common with a living dead, though. Instead of moving in a straight line from A to B, both walk awkwardly. They go through B, C, D, then finally get lost and end up against a wall, trying to walk around for hours.
If a living TKEM goes to the doctor with a sprained foot, he tells the doctor: "my wrist hurts", then he undresses and shows his shoulder and belly so that the doctor can better locate the source of the pain.
As you can see, all this motivates me even more to laugh at this drama, and other people to enjoy a good laugh. Already, it allows me to recuperate the hours I wasted on it. Even if it wasn't totally wasted since I learned everything that should never be done in a drama. And secondly, laughter is too important in life to be censured by bitter people.
Is the space between 1 and 0 a wormhole (or Einstein–Rosen bridge or Einstein–Rosen wormhole) ?
Yes and no. It's more like a place out of time and space. So that gives access to two worlds and two time lines (past, present). This place is vast, and we can assume two things there: - There's a shortcut (portal to portal). So the equivalent of a wormhole. It creates a timestop to take the shortcut. - There's an ordinary path. So the equivalent of normal space, not going through the wormhole. It doesn't create a timestop.
It's all been kept fuzzy for no good reason: - We never see how a character enters the in-between world. (simple sequence not complicated to do, the character enters the portal and then appears in the in-between world. Either the character is in a place, he dematerializes or he enters a breach and then appears in the in-between world). - We never see a character come out of a portal and witness the timestop he has just created. Or even if he arrives at that moment, or if he is trapped in the in-between world before the timestop is over. (idem, simple sequences to give proof of operation) - We never see if when a character enters the portal, he systematically passes through the in-between world. (simple to show. a scene with an animation showing that it is a direct displacement, or that the character enters, there is a dimensional flaw a few meters further, and he comes out). - We never see the doorway out into the in-between world, and a character walk through it. (really the basis of a sci-fi movie...)
The whole mechanism is of no interest to be hidden since no plot-twist was generated by the hidden information. Unnecessary confusion.
The scenes that give clues to this are poorly constructed: - The first scene in the in-between world doesn't tell you how to get there. It could be a flashback of the passage through the portal. On the other hand, the dialogue and the chronology suggest that it is a continuation of the previous scene on the race track. So that entering the in-between world can take place other than through the portal (although I doubt it). - When Lee Gon arrives in the bamboo forest in Episode 10, we don't see him coming out. We see a red balloon. So there is no timestop, and for some reason, a red balloon has escaped. Since he galloped for a long time, it is the only way to guess that there is also a long way instead of a shortcut. (I don't remember where was Lee Lim at this point, so If we can also conclude than take the long path don't generate timestop with 100% sure, depending of the final rule of trigerring timestop, see next paragraph.) - In episode 14, Lee Gon comes into ROK and there's a timestop. We can assume that he just created this timestop because Lee Lim is there. He comes out and goes into QOK, no timestop. This suggests that the precise rule of timestop generation is not based on the fact that the portal is open (the most logical assumption physically). Rather, timestop takes place in the world where the two flutes are either separated or joined together. This implies a time difference between the two worlds after a while, I have not checked. Maybe that's why the in-between world changes from day to night. We must already assume that Lee Gon took the short cut and not the long way, and that the timestop time has not been reset despite the time travel, so we must ask ourselves how this affects the second timeline with the 1994 Lee Gon and Lee Lim. One must also accept the idea in this case that joining a world where there is already a timestop does not generate a new timestop extending the duration of the previous timestop, and above all, this does not explain the elapsed time in ROK of several days. There is too little information to deduce something 100% certain from all this.
All this is a nice bag of knots, and it seems that the script is afraid to describe all these things a bit too much, for fear that a plot-hole could be quickly discovered...
Shhh, don't ask embarrassing questions like that.All that was already forgotten, under the carpet. The mysterious…
This idea is interesting because you can build another scenario with: There's no time travel. Someone came from the other world with Tae Eul's badge to save Lee Gon.
I did the detailed research on this, and with a little help on soompi, I ended up reconstructing it according…
Posting a joke on a forum is fast, sometimes it can be good from the start. But on the meme, there is more time to find inspiration. On some previous memes, there are sometimes two or three gags on a single picture. Or almost every picture contains one gag. On this one, a lot of things appear in a derisory way. For example, the picture where Shin-Jay says it was a Doopleganger. Basically, there's nothing funny in that picture. It's just information to understand the story. But I added two lines, to give the impression that Shin-Jay is a fool capable of falling in love in a flash and that he is a kind of sentimental naive. Add to this, even though it's not explained in the meme, that the crap that Tae Eul says to him, he certainly heard it for years, but that he's always remained in love with her. There are a few scenes like that in the drama (from memory, when they talk in the car). I think it's a pity that the dialogues weren't more powerful to bring him down further, and show Tae Eul as an unwittingly bitchy girl who makes him suffer a lot without realizing it.
Something that's both ultra-sluggish and ultra messy. - No answer to anything, on the contrary, new weird and…
The first version wasn't very good, I reworked it a bit. I'm sure there were better things to do, a lot of other undeveloped ideas. For example, making a list of things that will never have answers, such as: - Why Lee Lim leaves his umbrella at PM Koo's mother's house. - Why just afterwards, he walks down the street with his umbrella in QOK. - Then there's a timestop right after. - And then he is in QOK, in the bookstore. By the way, at first watching, I thought the bookstore was in ROK because of that.
Episode 16 - How will be the final episode !NO SPOILER.(I just repost what I posted elsewhere, but it drowned)
Something that's both ultra-sluggish and ultra messy. - No answer to anything, on the contrary, new weird and confusing stuff. - No explanation for who built the pillars or the flute, it's like that!
I predict five minutes of action, then nothing. - Jo-Yeong is badly injured, so we won't see him afterwards and don't know if he survives or dies. - The two main characters are separated and looking for each other. - They're both losing their memories. - They meet on the esplanade once again, but no one hugs... - They are separated forever afterwards, and regain their memories after that. - During the whole episode, they cry and are desperate, depressed.
Characters in a total blur. - The story of Lady Noh's past in North Korea has no impact, besides we forget to talk about it. - We don't see the Yoyo Kid again, who disappears completely without us ever knowing anything or what. - The PM Koo is totally forgotten and doesn't appear in the episode. An unfortunate technical incident. - Luna doesn't appear in the episode either, we can assume everything. But a very thin clue, such as a crumpled envelope on the floor with a hospital logo, will allow the most valiant spectators to guess that she died of cancer. Other spectators disagree and claim that Luna has travelled 1000 years back in time. She retired and built a hotel: the famous Hotel Del Luna. - Nari appear in the PPL bar, but no Eun-Sup. As he already said goodbye to Jo-Yeong, he did the job he was asked to do in the drama. - In the end, Shin-Jay didn't go into the past. So there will be a lot of scenes dedicated to him alone and to his mothers, for nothing. Well, not 100% nothing, they will eat a lot of chicken. - Lee Lim is even more foolish. This time, it's the Lee Lim of the future killing the Lee Lim of the past. With a cliché effect but illogical, it leads to his disappearance, even if he comes from another timeline, but who cares? - Maximus dies of old age.
New characters never seen before, such as... - a royal grandfather half mad, - a mysterious notary with yellow hairs introduced by secretary Moo, - a character who may also travel back in time, with another mysterious object that we never see hidden in a golf club. This character will make disturbing allusions and maybe it is actually an already existing character, but this will never be shown or explained. Nobody know if it's a man or a woman and he/she wear giant sunglasses.
Dozens of new questions without clues or meaning will invade the episode. - a timestop of timestop, - a yellow three in a pink field in a glass snow bottle. - a new world both night and day with golf balls everywhere.
There will be a slow motion scene in which a voice-over will recite a 5-minute poem. Only 2.71828% of the audience will remain awake after that.
The last scene will be strange and dreamlike, or nightmarelike who know ? - We will see Tae Eul and Lee Gon together, suddenly, out of nowhere, when they were separated forever before. - But we will have no context, and their dialogue will be enigmatic, hermetic, indecipherable. - We won't know when and where they are, nor will we know if they are the same people who were in the drama. - Nor will we know whether they will become happy or not, because they are neither sad nor happy. - They are just looking into the distance, huddling together, and there is a lot of wind.
No conclusion can be given to anything!
I hope that the drama will not disappoint me, and will propose an ending episode of this kind!
I'm breaking it all down step by step, in the clearest possible way. I'm used to SF stories, so "disappearing objects", "sudden memory" kind of principles are things I have difficulties with, and I first went on a more logical and physics track. If a timeline is rewritten, normally there's no reason for anyone to remember anything. But this is possible if the story uses a different process. For example Nine Time Travel, which explores in depth the principle of memory acquisition. Since the story is based on a mysterious incense, it makes sense. TKEM uses a magic flute, so yes, that's also possible.
So I haven’t been in the korean comment section in so long because all I’ve been watching are Thai dramas,…
It's annoying! Fans of drama can't find an answer when critical audiences describe how flawed and poorly done the drama is. So, they try to prove that drama is good according to its popularity. But even here it's hardly convincing. Especially since the so-called new viewers are mostly as disappointed as the old ones.
There is a discussion thread of confusing things. Hope this helps: https://kisskh.at/discussions/the-king-the-eternal-monarch/48691-the-king-eternal-monarch-confusing-things-discussion
No, because I have some awkward questions that no one can answer. I prefer your topic to be peaceful and not cause further confusion among those who read it. ;-)
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Crazy!
I found this in the comments:
"Don't laugh at the drama, it's disrespectful to those who like the drama."
The very first case of a fusion between a spectator and drama!
Probably a time travel bug.
The spectator comes from a dystopian future where laughter is forbidden, so movies like "is there a pilot in the plane" or "scary movie" were banned, as well as any other parody. pretty much all humorists in fact.
The fusion fails at the end of the time travel, and the viewer finds himself fused with the drama instead of himself.
So what's life like as a living drama? Or more exactly a living TKEM.
Not as funny as a living dead, it's not possible to bite and infect others, so that they become living TKEM for example. But that would certainly be the dream.
It's difficult to express even simple things.
To a question like "what time is it?"
The answer is, "The same time as it was before, plus some additional time."
A living TKEM has something in common with a living dead, though.
Instead of moving in a straight line from A to B, both walk awkwardly. They go through B, C, D, then finally get lost and end up against a wall, trying to walk around for hours.
If a living TKEM goes to the doctor with a sprained foot, he tells the doctor: "my wrist hurts", then he undresses and shows his shoulder and belly so that the doctor can better locate the source of the pain.
As you can see, all this motivates me even more to laugh at this drama, and other people to enjoy a good laugh.
Already, it allows me to recuperate the hours I wasted on it. Even if it wasn't totally wasted since I learned everything that should never be done in a drama.
And secondly, laughter is too important in life to be censured by bitter people.
It's more like a place out of time and space. So that gives access to two worlds and two time lines (past, present). This place is vast, and we can assume two things there:
- There's a shortcut (portal to portal). So the equivalent of a wormhole. It creates a timestop to take the shortcut.
- There's an ordinary path. So the equivalent of normal space, not going through the wormhole. It doesn't create a timestop.
It's all been kept fuzzy for no good reason:
- We never see how a character enters the in-between world.
(simple sequence not complicated to do, the character enters the portal and then appears in the in-between world. Either the character is in a place, he dematerializes or he enters a breach and then appears in the in-between world).
- We never see a character come out of a portal and witness the timestop he has just created. Or even if he arrives at that moment, or if he is trapped in the in-between world before the timestop is over.
(idem, simple sequences to give proof of operation)
- We never see if when a character enters the portal, he systematically passes through the in-between world.
(simple to show. a scene with an animation showing that it is a direct displacement, or that the character enters, there is a dimensional flaw a few meters further, and he comes out).
- We never see the doorway out into the in-between world, and a character walk through it.
(really the basis of a sci-fi movie...)
The whole mechanism is of no interest to be hidden since no plot-twist was generated by the hidden information. Unnecessary confusion.
The scenes that give clues to this are poorly constructed:
- The first scene in the in-between world doesn't tell you how to get there. It could be a flashback of the passage through the portal. On the other hand, the dialogue and the chronology suggest that it is a continuation of the previous scene on the race track. So that entering the in-between world can take place other than through the portal (although I doubt it).
- When Lee Gon arrives in the bamboo forest in Episode 10, we don't see him coming out. We see a red balloon. So there is no timestop, and for some reason, a red balloon has escaped. Since he galloped for a long time, it is the only way to guess that there is also a long way instead of a shortcut. (I don't remember where was Lee Lim at this point, so If we can also conclude than take the long path don't generate timestop with 100% sure, depending of the final rule of trigerring timestop, see next paragraph.)
- In episode 14, Lee Gon comes into ROK and there's a timestop. We can assume that he just created this timestop because Lee Lim is there. He comes out and goes into QOK, no timestop. This suggests that the precise rule of timestop generation is not based on the fact that the portal is open (the most logical assumption physically). Rather, timestop takes place in the world where the two flutes are either separated or joined together. This implies a time difference between the two worlds after a while, I have not checked. Maybe that's why the in-between world changes from day to night.
We must already assume that Lee Gon took the short cut and not the long way, and that the timestop time has not been reset despite the time travel, so we must ask ourselves how this affects the second timeline with the 1994 Lee Gon and Lee Lim.
One must also accept the idea in this case that joining a world where there is already a timestop does not generate a new timestop extending the duration of the previous timestop, and above all, this does not explain the elapsed time in ROK of several days. There is too little information to deduce something 100% certain from all this.
All this is a nice bag of knots, and it seems that the script is afraid to describe all these things a bit too much, for fear that a plot-hole could be quickly discovered...
You don't enjoy anything but you need to rewatch it.
This drama is so good for busting balls. ^^
On some previous memes, there are sometimes two or three gags on a single picture. Or almost every picture contains one gag.
On this one, a lot of things appear in a derisory way. For example, the picture where Shin-Jay says it was a Doopleganger. Basically, there's nothing funny in that picture. It's just information to understand the story. But I added two lines, to give the impression that Shin-Jay is a fool capable of falling in love in a flash and that he is a kind of sentimental naive. Add to this, even though it's not explained in the meme, that the crap that Tae Eul says to him, he certainly heard it for years, but that he's always remained in love with her.
There are a few scenes like that in the drama (from memory, when they talk in the car). I think it's a pity that the dialogues weren't more powerful to bring him down further, and show Tae Eul as an unwittingly bitchy girl who makes him suffer a lot without realizing it.
All that was already forgotten, under the carpet. The mysterious hallucinations, the lightning bolts on the shoulder, shh, shh......
https://utahvalley360.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Men-in-black-memory-erase.gif
I'm sure there were better things to do, a lot of other undeveloped ideas.
For example, making a list of things that will never have answers, such as:
- Why Lee Lim leaves his umbrella at PM Koo's mother's house.
- Why just afterwards, he walks down the street with his umbrella in QOK.
- Then there's a timestop right after.
- And then he is in QOK, in the bookstore. By the way, at first watching, I thought the bookstore was in ROK because of that.
I've had some practice on this, in case you missed it, it was my last meme:
http://w4worlds.eklablog.com/the-king-eternal-monarch-meme-16-top-priority-a187940168
After that, I didn't have time to make any more.
These are the ones that sank:
https://forums.soompi.com/topic/435525-current-drama-the-king-eternal-monarch-%EB%8D%94-%ED%82%B9-%EC%98%81%EC%9B%90%EC%9D%98-%EA%B5%B0%EC%A3%BC-fri-sat-2200-kst/?do=findComment&comment=21845770
https://forums.soompi.com/topic/435525-current-drama-the-king-eternal-monarch-%EB%8D%94-%ED%82%B9-%EC%98%81%EC%9B%90%EC%9D%98-%EA%B5%B0%EC%A3%BC-fri-sat-2200-kst/?do=findComment&comment=21847750
Those were a little more successful:
https://forums.soompi.com/topic/435525-current-drama-the-king-eternal-monarch-%EB%8D%94-%ED%82%B9-%EC%98%81%EC%9B%90%EC%9D%98-%EA%B5%B0%EC%A3%BC-fri-sat-2200-kst/page/733/?tab=comments#comment-21848597
https://forums.soompi.com/topic/435525-current-drama-the-king-eternal-monarch-%EB%8D%94-%ED%82%B9-%EC%98%81%EC%9B%90%EC%9D%98-%EA%B5%B0%EC%A3%BC-fri-sat-2200-kst/page/757/?tab=comments#comment-21850004
And many more. ^^
https://forums.soompi.com/topic/435525-current-drama-the-king-eternal-monarch-%EB%8D%94-%ED%82%B9-%EC%98%81%EC%9B%90%EC%9D%98-%EA%B5%B0%EC%A3%BC-fri-sat-2200-kst/?do=findComment&comment=21857441
- No answer to anything, on the contrary, new weird and confusing stuff.
- No explanation for who built the pillars or the flute, it's like that!
I predict five minutes of action, then nothing.
- Jo-Yeong is badly injured, so we won't see him afterwards and don't know if he survives or dies.
- The two main characters are separated and looking for each other.
- They're both losing their memories.
- They meet on the esplanade once again, but no one hugs...
- They are separated forever afterwards, and regain their memories after that.
- During the whole episode, they cry and are desperate, depressed.
Characters in a total blur.
- The story of Lady Noh's past in North Korea has no impact, besides we forget to talk about it.
- We don't see the Yoyo Kid again, who disappears completely without us ever knowing anything or what.
- The PM Koo is totally forgotten and doesn't appear in the episode. An unfortunate technical incident.
- Luna doesn't appear in the episode either, we can assume everything. But a very thin clue, such as a crumpled envelope on the floor with a hospital logo, will allow the most valiant spectators to guess that she died of cancer. Other spectators disagree and claim that Luna has travelled 1000 years back in time. She retired and built a hotel: the famous Hotel Del Luna.
- Nari appear in the PPL bar, but no Eun-Sup. As he already said goodbye to Jo-Yeong, he did the job he was asked to do in the drama.
- In the end, Shin-Jay didn't go into the past. So there will be a lot of scenes dedicated to him alone and to his mothers, for nothing. Well, not 100% nothing, they will eat a lot of chicken.
- Lee Lim is even more foolish. This time, it's the Lee Lim of the future killing the Lee Lim of the past. With a cliché effect but illogical, it leads to his disappearance, even if he comes from another timeline, but who cares?
- Maximus dies of old age.
New characters never seen before, such as...
- a royal grandfather half mad,
- a mysterious notary with yellow hairs introduced by secretary Moo,
- a character who may also travel back in time, with another mysterious object that we never see hidden in a golf club. This character will make disturbing allusions and maybe it is actually an already existing character, but this will never be shown or explained. Nobody know if it's a man or a woman and he/she wear giant sunglasses.
Dozens of new questions without clues or meaning will invade the episode.
- a timestop of timestop,
- a yellow three in a pink field in a glass snow bottle.
- a new world both night and day with golf balls everywhere.
There will be a slow motion scene in which a voice-over will recite a 5-minute poem.
Only 2.71828% of the audience will remain awake after that.
The last scene will be strange and dreamlike, or nightmarelike who know ?
- We will see Tae Eul and Lee Gon together, suddenly, out of nowhere, when they were separated forever before.
- But we will have no context, and their dialogue will be enigmatic, hermetic, indecipherable.
- We won't know when and where they are, nor will we know if they are the same people who were in the drama.
- Nor will we know whether they will become happy or not, because they are neither sad nor happy.
- They are just looking into the distance, huddling together, and there is a lot of wind.
No conclusion can be given to anything!
I hope that the drama will not disappoint me, and will propose an ending episode of this kind!
NO SPOILER.
(I just repost what I posted elsewhere, but it drowned)
https://kisskh.at/discussions/the-king-the-eternal-monarch/49019-a-quick-summary-of-ktem-from-ep-1-to-ep-15
I have provided a link to a blog where all this is described. Or you can see on soompi, page 771, 773. If you just want to laugh, go page 818. ^^
I'm breaking it all down step by step, in the clearest possible way. I'm used to SF stories, so "disappearing objects", "sudden memory" kind of principles are things I have difficulties with, and I first went on a more logical and physics track. If a timeline is rewritten, normally there's no reason for anyone to remember anything. But this is possible if the story uses a different process. For example Nine Time Travel, which explores in depth the principle of memory acquisition. Since the story is based on a mysterious incense, it makes sense. TKEM uses a magic flute, so yes, that's also possible.