Thoughts on ep 7. 1) I guess I should start with the critical comment. But they need to be more mindful of Santa's make up. If he's got a bruised arm, he needs to keep a bruised arm. And his face bruises fade in and out during the same scene. Normally I wouldn't mind in a BL because production values are usually low, but the production values of the this series have actually be quite high so far. They are trying to play in ITSAY territory, not Cutie Pie territory, so they need to be mindful. 2) I know there are certain Earth Antis who have not gelled with his character, but I really think Seeiw is sweet. I like that he forgave Sand, but ended it, because it was time to end it and he knows that dwelling on negative experiences just doesn't help. I think people who hand with Seeiw wind up being better people, and Sand blew that opportunity for a cigarette and he knows it. 3) As much as I wish he were gone, I get the feeling that Sand is going to be Seeiw's first boyfriend. 4) Ugh. We always complain that series are too short. So we get 8 extra episodes and that means they are going to extend the farewells another episode. As they say "How can I miss you if you don't go away?" Beyond Santa's great acting in this episode, I am SOOO glad they didn't do that Thai drama thing where Santa doesn't tell Seeiw he's leaving until he's at the airport, even though that means we get too much closure.
Episode 7 thoughts 1) Yeah, that's some imagination Akk had. Really wasn't necessary for them to kiss last episode if it wasn't real. Its like someone at a meeting said "Hey, we need a kiss. I know. Let's have it be a dream." Someone who hasn't watched Asian romances before thought they were being unique. 2) IDK. I thought Akk would be poorer based on what he said. Maybe the issue was that he wasn't super rich and from the provinces. But they appear to live well in that house. 3) Really rude to bring Nemo and Ayan along without so much as a text. Unrealistically rude for them. 4) O.K. the best moment for me with the mains was Ayan demanding to be called Aye. I like him better when he's teasing. He's sexy when he teases. 5) Thua looking to Ayan to see if he should answer that question was also good. What help he expected was a mystery. I wonder if he disclosed to Ayan about his feelings for Kan. Ayan knows anyway because he wasn't born yesterday. 6) Kan better not pretend that kiss didn't happen next episode. Thua is not a toy to be put in a box. And it better have happened and not been a dream. If it was a dream, then at least make it be Wat's dream. Having Wat walking around school for a few days wondering why he was dreaming about his friends kissing would be amusing.
As soon as I saw Rain walking with the bag of food alone, I said, "Watch him get kidnapped..." and - boom - kidnapped.…
I'm hoping that these theories don't reflect reality, but their seems to be an awful lot of hired goons available in Thailand. If series are to be believed, there might be as many goons in the country as agricultural workers.
They really need to get real walls at that house.. Those see-through-glass-wall-thing ain't it
Nah. Once again, the stairs don't have railings, so its best to let the neighbors have a view for that time when you fall and break your hip and can't call for help.
This episode was almost perfect.They are teenagers, with teenage concerns (friends, first girlfriend, school...)So,…
Yeah, but I think they do have more money behind this series than others. Even though the lifestyle isn't lavish, it is still pretty expensive to set a film 15 years in the past. Part of it is site selection, but its probably just as expensive to rent a bus made up so that looks like its from 2005 than it is to rent a private jet to sit on the runway for a day and get the permits to close off streets.
While I'm enjoying the drama here, I kind of feel like Cheewin noticed the popularity of fact-based Lovely Writer/Call…
I guess one of the values of being an interfan who doesn't use Twitter is that the controversies rarely bubble up into the forums I'm a part of. What usually happens is that someone posts up a tweet in Thai with a text to "Support Yoon" and the non-Thai speakers have no clue as to what happened and why Yoon is in need of support and what we're supposed to do about it except send hate tweets against someone we don't know, so I end up ignoring them. However, that incident was a good case of fans going after someone without much context because it was easy to go after them. She's old. She's fat. She put her hands on Yoon and pretended to lick him. Let's cancel her.
The fans are very selective and that's what makes them unreliable. Art Juanchainat decides that he's had enough shipping and the things that he's expected to do for fanservice have crossed the line, and a lot of fans turned on him and still bully him whenever he appears anywhere. Because unlike the Yoon incident above, people like Mew and like the idea of Mew touching younger men. One week, the fans decide that the cast of Love By Chance is homophobic (because the are upset that Meen said that LBC2 will be his last BL and he doesn't want to do another), so suddenly the microagressions against Earth Namwirote are the number one cause, even though he never asked for help. And everyone congratulates themselves for fighting homophobia on his behalf. A few months later, he's paired with Santa and a bunch of fans pile on him for being a groomer, when all that's happened is that they are being promoted as a ship for future projects. Accusing someone of being a groomer without evidence, by the way, is pretty homophobic, but heaven forbid anyone mention that the fans of BL can be very homophobic when they want to be.
While I'm enjoying the drama here, I kind of feel like Cheewin noticed the popularity of fact-based Lovely Writer/Call…
I have watched all of Cheewin's series, and while I enjoy them, he is not the most disciplined director. That's why I'm surprised. He's being tonally consistent this time and isn't giving in to his desire to be campy.
I also liked Lovely Writer a lot, but that series was more of a send up of the BL industry than this series. I didn't like Call it What you Want as much because while I think its heart is in the right place, its choice of including a relationship between a director and an actor worked against it. As the crusading director, he put himself into the script and let his insert character remain pure and sympathetic with the victims.
We'll see what Cheewin and the writers do with Director characters when one finally gets highlighted. Directors do play a role in the industry and it isn't exactly fair to portray the problems of the industry as "everyone else's problem" while the directors just sit on the sidelines and are too busy just setting up equipment to notice what's going on. I'll be a little disappointed if he does that. I'll be very disappointed if the director character becomes the only true friend the actors ever have. Everyone else involved is portrayed quite negatively, from fans, to managers, to actors, to production assistants, to sponsors.
Going to say that this is probably Cheewin's best series, and I'm surprised by it. He's usually prone to putting in some kind of comic relief character or toilet humor to lighten the mood. Or cast himself. This is much darker than his other series. Yeah, its a bit lakorny at times, but its just a very bleak world that he's built emotionally, where every relationship is false and there's no relief or stability. Even Bew, who seems like he could be the one pure soul in the world, is so torn at this point he's capable of beating up the guy he claims he loved when he's angry or coldly leaving him in jail when he begs for him to stay awhile longer. This certainly isn't Secret Crush or You never Eat Alone. I almost long for a fart joke.
After watching I think the guy is working with Bew's manager and the girl is working with Gus' manager. They both…
Given that this is all in one universe, I wouldn't be surprised if Yo was working for Koon, the manager from the first series. Remember, in ep. 1, she's still mad that Yoon didn't bring her Bew as she promised. And I wouldn't be shocked if they free themselves from Mom and Sis to end up with an even worse manager. Yo though might be just doing this on his own because he's angry about his failed audition from five years ago.
Mostly… about 70% based on behind the scenes of BL industry. They e combined the stories of BL actors and used…
Yeah. But my experience with fans being on the lookout for BTS abuse makes me a bit skeptical. Watching episode 8, I know exactly the episode in BL fandom history that's being referred to by the comments they have the fans making. Not to rehash that period, but fans are very fickle about which of their "babies" they will protect and which they will discard over any scandal, and who gets targeted for online bullying, and what kinds of abuse fans are willing to overlook. I think a theme that's been running through both Parts I and Parts II - is that fans really can't protect anything and are a very unreliable source of strength. Individual fans, sure. But the mass of fans working in tandem or fighting in rival camps is never shown in the series thus far as helping.
Mostly… about 70% based on behind the scenes of BL industry. They e combined the stories of BL actors and used…
I'm not going to guess which parts are real and which aren't. Although the fan reactions to the events are definitely based on real life fan behavior. Beyond that, I don't want to speculate as to which BL stars had sex with each other and which were dating in real life and which had managers who forced them to break it off with their girlfriend and start having sex with men instead. As far as I'm concerned, none of the BL ships are real and have never been real.
I saw a spoiler about this plot development a few days ago and have been pondering Rain's miraculous survival…
One of the two pilots survived according to the news report, if "couldn't find the body" means "is alive and working his way to the secret lair beneath the house." If there was a parachute, Rain would have offered it to his mom and his dad would have just taken it from them and yelled "You both are such disappointments" as he leapt from the helicopter.
Episode 11: 1) I'm going to guess that Pie was trying to assassinate Khim with shrimps. 2) Lacorny murder plots are always suspicious. I'm going to guess that it was the pilot who didn't show up who sabotaged the helicopter, because I don't care how much money she's offering. I'm not going to crash a helicopter that I'm in just so she gets more money than she already has. Also, this isn't the first Lakhorn that I've seen where it appears that there is a vast network of hitmen for hire who just drive around the city streets waiting for their victim to run over. Like you go online and submit a photo like and just wait. Although this is another reason why I think Pie is in on it as he knew where Khim was and that he would be riding a motorcycle home. 3) On the other hand, things never have to make sense in Lakhorns. 4) When Khim visits their graves on Qinming, I'd like Ohm and Singto be in the background. Let's tie these series into the same universe. 5) I'm so relieved that they are dead as the dad has been telegraphing his death since we first met him in episode 2 and every time he speaks he talked about his legacy like he wasn't going to be around much longer. Unfortunately, so did Rain in the early episodes. I'm thinking he's dead, but managed to text Khim the evidence while Khim was sleeping. We haven't seen Khim open that text. 6) Although as someone mentioned below, Khim has head trauma that might lead to a stroke and amnesia. Rain could be alive, but with amnesia. Maybe this ends with Khim remembering who he is when he and Sun look at the comets together while Phayoo drags a burned and broken Rain to Brazil to see the falls together. LOL. Don't let me write these things. I'd be even worse than what we currently have. 7) The doctor is Sun's cardiologist. He's shocked to see her because he's been skipping his appointments for the entire school year. Its the same look of shame you'd give to your priest on a Sunday afternoon when you bump into him in a grocery store with a cart full of beer when you've been skipping church for a few months.
Another reason that Rain must be alive is that we haven't seen the payoff from him discovering the secret room…
Lordy. They're going to imply that he dragged himself miles through the woods with broken bones and burns and is using the alcohol in the basement to sterilize his infections, like he's Sylvester Stallone. When the evil Doctor arrives, he'll just knife here while muttering "You drew first blood."
I actually kind of liked how clueless his parents were about what was going on between Qi Zhang and Ye Guang. The thought that he might be on date never crossed their minds. Instead they were more concern about the appearance of Qi Zhang's clothing and his low class parentage. LOL. Yeah, I hate them. But somehow their closed-mindedness is what is going to allow this relationship to get off the ground. I was wondering how it was that they let their son hang out with the obviously very gay Ray, but they are so class conscious Ray could probably come over dressed as Quiqui and they wouldn't see past how much money his dad makes.
It was o.k. not to resolve all the issues with the parents, since these aren't the kind of parents who are going to let their son date a boy without hauling him to a psychologist. Having a typical BL scene where the parents come around to acceptance wouldn't have worked in this format. Leaves an issue open for a season 2.
Feel a little robbed that we don't get to see the election. Who wins? Will Qi Zhang win and then leave Ye Guang for Berklee College? Hopefully they can close the loop with another season.
I so knew it! Bloody hell! Another Asian justification and free pass for the most atrocious pseudo-human parents…
They are in danger of loosing him to such anti-social behavior as roller-skating and blowing bubbles in the park. O.K. back in my day when older kids and young adults were blowing bubbles in the park, it usually meant they were stoned, but. Still. First he's blowing bubbles, and the next thing you know he'll be hanging out with friends drinking bubble tea and eating mochi and loudly slurping egg drop soup. Gotta put a stop to that. Even the children of the Puritans who thought that any time spent away from reading the Bible was a pathway for the devil to lead your soul to hell allowed their children to have a bit more fun than his parents did.
Another cotton candy turd drifts to Earth, shot from the glittery ass of a wayward Unicorn.1/10
I'm sure you'll be the first to remind us all that if unicorns really existed, they'd kill virgins and eat kittens and we wouldn't like having them around very much. Sure, a drop of their blood grants immortality, but is it really worth the fear of not knowing whether you'll be gored on your way to the grocery store? I mean, unless you're a virgin of the purest of heart, you're pretty much toast when you encounter one.
Anyway, I'm not sure where the fantasy element of this series is that's so bothersome. Boy concocts a scheme to get another boy to like him. Scheme fails and the boy is understandably upset when he finds out about it. But talks things out with some adults and friends and decides he'll pursue the relationship anyway. On the side, a girl ends up liking a boy who does kind things for her. And another boy gets to be friends with an older girl once he makes it clear that he's not interested in dating her. Yeah. This is all so unrealistic. It could never happen.
1) I guess I should start with the critical comment. But they need to be more mindful of Santa's make up. If he's got a bruised arm, he needs to keep a bruised arm. And his face bruises fade in and out during the same scene. Normally I wouldn't mind in a BL because production values are usually low, but the production values of the this series have actually be quite high so far. They are trying to play in ITSAY territory, not Cutie Pie territory, so they need to be mindful.
2) I know there are certain Earth Antis who have not gelled with his character, but I really think Seeiw is sweet. I like that he forgave Sand, but ended it, because it was time to end it and he knows that dwelling on negative experiences just doesn't help. I think people who hand with Seeiw wind up being better people, and Sand blew that opportunity for a cigarette and he knows it.
3) As much as I wish he were gone, I get the feeling that Sand is going to be Seeiw's first boyfriend.
4) Ugh. We always complain that series are too short. So we get 8 extra episodes and that means they are going to extend the farewells another episode. As they say "How can I miss you if you don't go away?" Beyond Santa's great acting in this episode, I am SOOO glad they didn't do that Thai drama thing where Santa doesn't tell Seeiw he's leaving until he's at the airport, even though that means we get too much closure.
1) Yeah, that's some imagination Akk had. Really wasn't necessary for them to kiss last episode if it wasn't real. Its like someone at a meeting said "Hey, we need a kiss. I know. Let's have it be a dream." Someone who hasn't watched Asian romances before thought they were being unique.
2) IDK. I thought Akk would be poorer based on what he said. Maybe the issue was that he wasn't super rich and from the provinces. But they appear to live well in that house.
3) Really rude to bring Nemo and Ayan along without so much as a text. Unrealistically rude for them.
4) O.K. the best moment for me with the mains was Ayan demanding to be called Aye. I like him better when he's teasing. He's sexy when he teases.
5) Thua looking to Ayan to see if he should answer that question was also good. What help he expected was a mystery. I wonder if he disclosed to Ayan about his feelings for Kan. Ayan knows anyway because he wasn't born yesterday.
6) Kan better not pretend that kiss didn't happen next episode. Thua is not a toy to be put in a box. And it better have happened and not been a dream. If it was a dream, then at least make it be Wat's dream. Having Wat walking around school for a few days wondering why he was dreaming about his friends kissing would be amusing.
The fans are very selective and that's what makes them unreliable. Art Juanchainat decides that he's had enough shipping and the things that he's expected to do for fanservice have crossed the line, and a lot of fans turned on him and still bully him whenever he appears anywhere. Because unlike the Yoon incident above, people like Mew and like the idea of Mew touching younger men. One week, the fans decide that the cast of Love By Chance is homophobic (because the are upset that Meen said that LBC2 will be his last BL and he doesn't want to do another), so suddenly the microagressions against Earth Namwirote are the number one cause, even though he never asked for help. And everyone congratulates themselves for fighting homophobia on his behalf. A few months later, he's paired with Santa and a bunch of fans pile on him for being a groomer, when all that's happened is that they are being promoted as a ship for future projects. Accusing someone of being a groomer without evidence, by the way, is pretty homophobic, but heaven forbid anyone mention that the fans of BL can be very homophobic when they want to be.
I also liked Lovely Writer a lot, but that series was more of a send up of the BL industry than this series. I didn't like Call it What you Want as much because while I think its heart is in the right place, its choice of including a relationship between a director and an actor worked against it. As the crusading director, he put himself into the script and let his insert character remain pure and sympathetic with the victims.
We'll see what Cheewin and the writers do with Director characters when one finally gets highlighted. Directors do play a role in the industry and it isn't exactly fair to portray the problems of the industry as "everyone else's problem" while the directors just sit on the sidelines and are too busy just setting up equipment to notice what's going on. I'll be a little disappointed if he does that. I'll be very disappointed if the director character becomes the only true friend the actors ever have. Everyone else involved is portrayed quite negatively, from fans, to managers, to actors, to production assistants, to sponsors.
1) I'm going to guess that Pie was trying to assassinate Khim with shrimps.
2) Lacorny murder plots are always suspicious. I'm going to guess that it was the pilot who didn't show up who sabotaged the helicopter, because I don't care how much money she's offering. I'm not going to crash a helicopter that I'm in just so she gets more money than she already has. Also, this isn't the first Lakhorn that I've seen where it appears that there is a vast network of hitmen for hire who just drive around the city streets waiting for their victim to run over. Like you go online and submit a photo like and just wait. Although this is another reason why I think Pie is in on it as he knew where Khim was and that he would be riding a motorcycle home.
3) On the other hand, things never have to make sense in Lakhorns.
4) When Khim visits their graves on Qinming, I'd like Ohm and Singto be in the background. Let's tie these series into the same universe.
5) I'm so relieved that they are dead as the dad has been telegraphing his death since we first met him in episode 2 and every time he speaks he talked about his legacy like he wasn't going to be around much longer. Unfortunately, so did Rain in the early episodes. I'm thinking he's dead, but managed to text Khim the evidence while Khim was sleeping. We haven't seen Khim open that text.
6) Although as someone mentioned below, Khim has head trauma that might lead to a stroke and amnesia. Rain could be alive, but with amnesia. Maybe this ends with Khim remembering who he is when he and Sun look at the comets together while Phayoo drags a burned and broken Rain to Brazil to see the falls together. LOL. Don't let me write these things. I'd be even worse than what we currently have.
7) The doctor is Sun's cardiologist. He's shocked to see her because he's been skipping his appointments for the entire school year. Its the same look of shame you'd give to your priest on a Sunday afternoon when you bump into him in a grocery store with a cart full of beer when you've been skipping church for a few months.
It was o.k. not to resolve all the issues with the parents, since these aren't the kind of parents who are going to let their son date a boy without hauling him to a psychologist. Having a typical BL scene where the parents come around to acceptance wouldn't have worked in this format. Leaves an issue open for a season 2.
Feel a little robbed that we don't get to see the election. Who wins? Will Qi Zhang win and then leave Ye Guang for Berklee College? Hopefully they can close the loop with another season.
Anyway, I'm not sure where the fantasy element of this series is that's so bothersome. Boy concocts a scheme to get another boy to like him. Scheme fails and the boy is understandably upset when he finds out about it. But talks things out with some adults and friends and decides he'll pursue the relationship anyway. On the side, a girl ends up liking a boy who does kind things for her. And another boy gets to be friends with an older girl once he makes it clear that he's not interested in dating her. Yeah. This is all so unrealistic. It could never happen.