Circe

thank you for responding, do you know if there is a minimum donation amount? also, are they still accepting donation?

I wrote "a lot" not "all" so idk where the generalization argument is coming from. I don't have any problem with women writing about gay men but their lived experience is different and their idea of romance is different, so sometimes conflict is sure to occur. Male authors writing BL are often less in number. I dislike reading men writing about lesbian relationships, while there are some good works, it's often what they wish to see in a lesbian relationship instead of what it actually is. Thai LGBT people often complain about straight people profiting off gay stories while being actively homophobic and excluding them from spaces. If you say that majority of BL isn't targeted towards straight women, then well... you're entitled to your opinion. Of course, there are good works and bad works, every BL isn't terrible. That cannot be possible. However, this novel is and falls into every negative pattern that some BL novels written by straight women follow. Anyway, this argument has gone off the rails, I don't think the OP was misogynistic in saying straight female writers sometimes don't get the nuances of gay relationships and I stand by that.

will there ever be subs for this? :(

For a series that's rated over 9 on here, it really doesn't live up to the hype. What is really here but the visual of the leads and some cute moments? As someone already mentioned below, the problem is that there is no realistic conflict. Lack of intimacy isn't a problem, the contrived plot is. Now that they're together, they required a realistic, ongoing point of conflict to move the story forward but the writing is terrible so. Every alternate episode is Tine or Sarawat getting jealous, that's the whole plot. They should've made them confess in the penultimate episode because they clearly can't write a couple in love.

I mean it's a fact that BL is marketed predominantly towards straight women, sure there are people like us watching them as well but the target audience has always been obvious? We know women are writing majority of these novels, you can just look up any major BL novel and see who the writer is? Thai LGBT people complain about that quite a bit actually, BL isn't necessarily the best representation of gay people. You can easily look at any of the fanmeets and see the majority of the audience. Regarding "turning on", I obviously meant the aggressive tropes in the novels that are put in for a specific reason. I didn't mean my personal motivations? I was discussing the general topic of why some of these territorial tropes exist in such shows.

People are calling this comment misogynistic.. now I could be wrong but I don't think they meant this in a misogynistic way. The truth is that a lot of BL is written by and for straight women who enjoy fantasizing about hot dudes falling in love, being aggressive etc. They essentially paint a picture of gay men that's difficult to relate to. They often write tropes that aim to turn women on instead of writing a realistic romance between two men. I am not a gay man but I'm a lesbian so I understand the frustration with the fetishization. 2gether, like most BL content is written by straight women and suffers from similar problems, men being territorial over their lovers, treating them like possessions, gradual feminization the love interest and so on. It's interesting that people don't ever point out this depressing territorial ritual between Sarawat and Mil, it's true that Sarawat treats Tine like a precious, beloved pet sometimes. As the OP said, Tine is perfectly capable of taking care of himself and lovers take care of each other. Straight BL writers tend to turn one dude into the ~protective partner~ and the other dude is made to be completely passive and helpless. This brings me back to the frustration about the slow regression of Tine's character, he's a passive, lifeless doll being taken care of. People point out the reasons for Tine's supposed passiveness from the novel and from the theories they make on their own but this series has done a terrible job of portraying his conflict of falling in love with a man.