isn't it weird grandmother & injae haven't met each other yet? since granny is losing her sight i thought dalmi…
it's quite sad you know. It appears the closest person to grandma is neither SDM or WIJ, but rather HJP.
I guarantee you, HJP will be most devastated when he finds out about grandma's sight.
Everything SDM is doing is not to make grandma and her life better, but really it's mostly to make SDM life better.
In some ways, HJP treats grandma better than SDM does.
Also i'm pretty sure WIJ loves her family, which includes SDM, grandma and her dad. But she's keeping all that bottled up since it would weaken her image as a strong CEO. For women in the workplace, you cannot let things like family show your weakness otherwise men will trample all over you, which is what her dad did to her.
I still remember what HJP said to NDS in the earlier episodes: "TELL HER YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND AND GET THE FUC*…
What I don't get it is. NDS didn't listen to HJP, but why not just tell SDM the truth then and there at that time.
In fact, he may even look to be the hero at the time since he saved her face with her sister. It's NDS fault that he decide to start their relationship on a lie, when he was already ignoring HJP at that time. He easily could have just told the truth, then and there.
She will feel betrayed, but I don't think it will matter much.The letters helped her cross a rough patch in her…
SDM and NDS are not in the love relationship quite yet. It's more business partner stage atm, and SDM treats NDS more as an ends to the means more than anything atm.
are we watching the same drama? haha. from what i see, nds would try to tell dalmi the truth. if he's a liar,…
It's how he lies, it's very convincing, and it seems that he wants to tell the truth for his own benefit. Just saying it's inconsistent with his character in the first few episodes. He is starting to exhibit selfish tendencies.
For the ones who are not aware... The question is not '' Are the letters fake or genuine ''? The question is ''…
She will feel betrayed, but I don't think it will matter much.
The letters helped her cross a rough patch in her life.
NDS asked his coworkers the question, would you rather work for a CEO, or have the CEO work for you. And they all wanted to have the CEO work for them.
But now, you ask yourself, would you rather mold someone, or be molded by someone. In NDS, SDM is molding him to what she needs to succeed, with HJP, it is SDM who is being molded to reach her goals.
On episode 7 now, and i'm starting to realize that NDS is a very good liar, and his willingness to lie to SDM face every time they are together is outstanding.
With Grandma and HJP, you see how uncomfortable it is for them to lie to SDM. but i've noticed for NDS, it doesn't bother him as much, I don't know if this is because of NJH acting or the way his character is written.
HJP as we can see in the first 7 episodes, does all he can to avoid being in the same room, or dealing directly with SDM because he feels uncomfortable perpetuating this lie, we even see his panicked face and etc..
For NDS, not only does he do it so smoothly and without emotion, he even adds to it, the way he lies and makes stuff up is just so second nature. In comparison HJP is not a good liar. He always makes slip ups, looks panicked, answers unconvincingly.
HJP has a lot to learn about lying from NDS, IMO.
In conclusion, NDS is a master liar, so I applaud his skills.
Dalmi's weakness has always been her sister. That bitterness she feels because she's living the hardest life while…
in real life though, having that competitiveness between sisters or brothers never ends well. In fact that negativity will always seethe in the background, so any familial connection will never be genuine, and that's the thing i'm not really enjoying.
So even if she becomes as successful or more successful than WIJ, it's unrealistic that the sisters will suddenly be close.
For a more believable end, I would need to see WIJ and SDM start something together from scratch, and they develop the same bond as the samsamtech boys in terms of share distribution.
Wow. Omg this is what I didn't want l, people to fight over the male leads and who gets 'the girl'. Kim Seon Ho…
I mean, I think even hardcore HJP shippers know deep in their heart that endgame is NDS and SDM. There are is just too much writer bias, and promotional material to be otherwise.
Even though I feel the chemistry and storylines don't support a NDS and SDM romance, the writer's pen is way too strong.
Does anyone have issues with SDM over competitiveness? I just have this nagging feeling, if the roles were switched, SDM would be just as bad or i'm even thinking worse then WIJ.
It's great that she's motivated to beat her sister to prove her decision right, but it all reeks of over competitiveness, extreme jealousy, and just plain old simple hater mentality.
The mentality of, "your only successful because of your parents" is plain hater speech. So what if someone got a leg up to become successful.
Even grandma is tired of this mentality of SDM, and I know people like this in real life who compares about every single thing, it's ridiculous and a huge huge turn off in a FL. For someone who doesn't regret any decision, she does her father's image a disservice by acting like this.
In comparison, HJP who comes from literally nothing, isn't being a hater to people who are given their success. He respects success, regardless of how that person got it. And I believe that it the right attitude.
At first I gave SDM a free pass, but it just keeps happening. Is this the writer projecting his/her own past life?
And I really really don't buy the whole, if SDM didn't choose NDS team, they would not have gotten in. They at least have CODA on their resume, so some CEO would have taken a chance.
On the flip side, SDM has zero credential, no college education, and everyone at hackaton would be able to see that when QRIng code her profile. In fact if NDS never chose SDM, there was a very real chance she would not be chosen due to her lack of credentials.
And this though probably escapes her, and she's never thankful to NDS and team for giving her the opportunity, but rather, she's acting like a total Mary Sue.
SDM is really not the best written FL, I actually find her sister WIJ, even with her limited screen time more interesting, as there are more things to find out about her. With SDM her main reeason for existence is to be better than her sister, even though i'm pretty sure that is not what her dad wants her to be, or her grandma.
yeah, i don't know why so many people assume that they didn't mean anything to him and that he didn't care about…
That's just his mask/facade to grandma, HJP would never admit that he had or has feelings for SDM, he has spent so long keeping all those emotions buried.
HJP considered these letters a chore and called them "stupid". He found "stupid" the idea of making him write…
So, HJP not giggling like SDM shows he wasn't excited? He didn't wait to go home to read the letter, he opened it right away and read it on the spot. While the previous letter, he just got it and pocketed it away, big tonal shift happening here.
You say i'm making assumptions on what is happening in these scenes, but you are making those same assumptions as well. The only difference is I am wiling to admit that they are at best my opinion, while you are claiming your opinions on what is happening as undisputable fact...
HJP considered these letters a chore and called them "stupid". He found "stupid" the idea of making him write…
Initially the letters begin as a chore, but as i've said, HJP eventually starts looking forwards to the letter, and i'm guessing the contents of the letter started to reflect that. We see this in Ep 1, as his face and demeanor changes when he sees the letter in the bird box. Time stamp episode 1 37:55 mark. He was so excited to read the letter, he had to sit down and open to read it right away, and his demeanor is different from a few seconds earlier, where it did indeed like it was a chore.
It's interesting that we view the same scenes with different interpretations, but that's the great thing about Kdrama, lots of opinion on the same scenes.
When they decide what the name of the pen pal should be, they describe NDS as being rich, wise and warm.
I know a lot of people are saying HJP detested writing the letters to SDM, but I implore you to rewatch episode 1, it does a great job of setting up the importance of the letters to both SDM and HJP.
A lot of the words in those letters were genuine words from HJP, and his demeanor towards the letter goes from chore, to eventual happiness at receiving and writing them.
And in the past 15 years, all SDM can talk about is Dosan still, in fact Grandma even says "it's been 15 years and all you can do is talk about him still."
At around the 60 minute work, we get a glimpse of HJP inner working. His words "That kind of kindness I can't afford." It's a tragic point, as we see that Grandma has been quite successful in helping HJP overcome his demons and be a force for good, but the betrayal that HJP thought grandma did to him, made him go back to his mistrustful and cynical ways.
He even says, you lured me to writing those letters by calling him a good boy, which means him being called a good boy by grandma was such a huge thing for him. And while writing those letters to SDM, he can believe, if for but a moment that he was a good person. Because unfortunately for orphans, they have this thought in their heads, that they are not good people, and that's why their parents abandon them, and this is probably what is in HJP's mind.
And once HJP finds out the truth about what grandma actually did, the guilt was too crushing for him to continue staying, as he betrayed the only person who was unrepentantly kind to him. In the train station, we see HJP doubling down on his rudeness, and starts to taunt grandma, but being the mature adult she is, she plays him at his own game, acting aloof and uncaring as well. And it breaks him eventually, and we finally see HJP's true self, a man, when his defenses are down, is a kind and thankful young man.
What I also find interesting is that the criteria of the fake persona grandma and HJP makes is someone who is rich, wise, and warm. So far HJP checks the rich and wise part, but he has a lot to work on before he can be considered warm.
I guarantee you, HJP will be most devastated when he finds out about grandma's sight.
Everything SDM is doing is not to make grandma and her life better, but really it's mostly to make SDM life better.
In some ways, HJP treats grandma better than SDM does.
Also i'm pretty sure WIJ loves her family, which includes SDM, grandma and her dad. But she's keeping all that bottled up since it would weaken her image as a strong CEO. For women in the workplace, you cannot let things like family show your weakness otherwise men will trample all over you, which is what her dad did to her.
In fact, he may even look to be the hero at the time since he saved her face with her sister. It's NDS fault that he decide to start their relationship on a lie, when he was already ignoring HJP at that time. He easily could have just told the truth, then and there.
But the show has devolved into your standard kdrama love triangle...
The letters helped her cross a rough patch in her life.
NDS asked his coworkers the question, would you rather work for a CEO, or have the CEO work for you. And they all wanted to have the CEO work for them.
But now, you ask yourself, would you rather mold someone, or be molded by someone. In NDS, SDM is molding him to what she needs to succeed, with HJP, it is SDM who is being molded to reach her goals.
With Grandma and HJP, you see how uncomfortable it is for them to lie to SDM. but i've noticed for NDS, it doesn't bother him as much, I don't know if this is because of NJH acting or the way his character is written.
HJP as we can see in the first 7 episodes, does all he can to avoid being in the same room, or dealing directly with SDM because he feels uncomfortable perpetuating this lie, we even see his panicked face and etc..
For NDS, not only does he do it so smoothly and without emotion, he even adds to it, the way he lies and makes stuff up is just so second nature. In comparison HJP is not a good liar. He always makes slip ups, looks panicked, answers unconvincingly.
HJP has a lot to learn about lying from NDS, IMO.
In conclusion, NDS is a master liar, so I applaud his skills.
So even if she becomes as successful or more successful than WIJ, it's unrealistic that the sisters will suddenly be close.
For a more believable end, I would need to see WIJ and SDM start something together from scratch, and they develop the same bond as the samsamtech boys in terms of share distribution.
Even though I feel the chemistry and storylines don't support a NDS and SDM romance, the writer's pen is way too strong.
It's great that she's motivated to beat her sister to prove her decision right, but it all reeks of over competitiveness, extreme jealousy, and just plain old simple hater mentality.
The mentality of, "your only successful because of your parents" is plain hater speech. So what if someone got a leg up to become successful.
Even grandma is tired of this mentality of SDM, and I know people like this in real life who compares about every single thing, it's ridiculous and a huge huge turn off in a FL. For someone who doesn't regret any decision, she does her father's image a disservice by acting like this.
In comparison, HJP who comes from literally nothing, isn't being a hater to people who are given their success. He respects success, regardless of how that person got it. And I believe that it the right attitude.
At first I gave SDM a free pass, but it just keeps happening. Is this the writer projecting his/her own past life?
And I really really don't buy the whole, if SDM didn't choose NDS team, they would not have gotten in. They at least have CODA on their resume, so some CEO would have taken a chance.
On the flip side, SDM has zero credential, no college education, and everyone at hackaton would be able to see that when QRIng code her profile. In fact if NDS never chose SDM, there was a very real chance she would not be chosen due to her lack of credentials.
And this though probably escapes her, and she's never thankful to NDS and team for giving her the opportunity, but rather, she's acting like a total Mary Sue.
SDM is really not the best written FL, I actually find her sister WIJ, even with her limited screen time more interesting, as there are more things to find out about her. With SDM her main reeason for existence is to be better than her sister, even though i'm pretty sure that is not what her dad wants her to be, or her grandma.
I've already seen all the promotional material, and writer bias, so i'm pretty much ready.
You say i'm making assumptions on what is happening in these scenes, but you are making those same assumptions as well. The only difference is I am wiling to admit that they are at best my opinion, while you are claiming your opinions on what is happening as undisputable fact...
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It's interesting that we view the same scenes with different interpretations, but that's the great thing about Kdrama, lots of opinion on the same scenes.
When they decide what the name of the pen pal should be, they describe NDS as being rich, wise and warm.
A lot of the words in those letters were genuine words from HJP, and his demeanor towards the letter goes from chore, to eventual happiness at receiving and writing them.
And in the past 15 years, all SDM can talk about is Dosan still, in fact Grandma even says "it's been 15 years and all you can do is talk about him still."
At around the 60 minute work, we get a glimpse of HJP inner working. His words "That kind of kindness I can't afford." It's a tragic point, as we see that Grandma has been quite successful in helping HJP overcome his demons and be a force for good, but the betrayal that HJP thought grandma did to him, made him go back to his mistrustful and cynical ways.
He even says, you lured me to writing those letters by calling him a good boy, which means him being called a good boy by grandma was such a huge thing for him. And while writing those letters to SDM, he can believe, if for but a moment that he was a good person. Because unfortunately for orphans, they have this thought in their heads, that they are not good people, and that's why their parents abandon them, and this is probably what is in HJP's mind.
And once HJP finds out the truth about what grandma actually did, the guilt was too crushing for him to continue staying, as he betrayed the only person who was unrepentantly kind to him. In the train station, we see HJP doubling down on his rudeness, and starts to taunt grandma, but being the mature adult she is, she plays him at his own game, acting aloof and uncaring as well. And it breaks him eventually, and we finally see HJP's true self, a man, when his defenses are down, is a kind and thankful young man.
What I also find interesting is that the criteria of the fake persona grandma and HJP makes is someone who is rich, wise, and warm. So far HJP checks the rich and wise part, but he has a lot to work on before he can be considered warm.