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Yup, just pointing out, the severity of their living situation is a bit inhumane. Hopefully they introduce chairs in the next few episodes.

I'm glad they finally fed them after two days last episode. I kept wondering about that.

Actually, a lot of great movies are built on simply being NK and SK. Up until now, NK defectors are treated as second class citizen, and are given a hard time to assimilate by SK's. It's tragic to imagine that Korea was divided not even 100 years ago. And yet there is a lifetime of mistrust between the two sides. So yes, I believe just being from two different Koreas would have been enough of a conflict. The whole ANSP angle feels quite weak if you don't do enough research on the topic.

I understand that the plot, characters and events are fictional. But should we then consider the political, and legal backdrop of those things fictional as well? Should we consider the events that are off the screen fictional as well? Like, where are the lines drawn? In the show the 1988 Olympics are still happening. So is the controversy surrounding that canon? Or do we ignore it? That's what I am pointing out. When you pick and choose what you want to be fiction, viewers become confused on what is real. FYI the 1988 Olympics are non-fiction and Seoul actually did hold the 1988 Olympics.

I can see why though the writer/director wanted to create the image of the ANSP for the purpose of creating not just one wrong side, but rather two wrong side. But if they wanted to fictionalized more of the history, they should not make certain things accurate, as it gets confusing in what point should we stop thinking it's fiction and consider the message the writer/director is making?

Interestingly enough 1987 has more significance in Korean history than simply being the December Elections, Which is actually real and not fiction. It is also the year that radical feminism started to sprout. Especially with so much criticism levied against South Korea's double standard, I feel an all women dorm would have been the perfect backdrop to showcase this important fact. but instead, it's scene after scene of toxic masculinity, and female hysteria.

Someone in the comment section, brought up a good point. Does the SOLE female officer have to be hysterical and emotional?

First off, with regards to Kingsman. It's based on an comic book/graphic novel series. And it's overly fictionalized. Unless you believe that the tailor you go to is actually a secret agent whose umbrella turns into a super spy gun.

The thing is you can write fiction on actual events, as long as you over fictionalized it. And I don't think anyone bats an eye really. If your fiction includes crazy things like, WW1 was caused by an alien, or that Hitler was really an alien (like in Men in Black), those are seen as comedy or even satire. But when your fiction is not only plausible, but assumed? Then it gets too close to the truth, and the lines between truth and fictions become blurred.

Second off, western media has always really not cared about historical inaccuracies. Take for example, America The Motion Picture, it literally butchered the history of the founding fathers, but yet no one cared. Same thing goes for Inglorious Bastards by Quentin Tarantino.

There is a certain style, color, and plot that makes it clear the work is pure fiction.

Thanks for letting me know about Kings Man. The first two films were fun to watch, didn't know they made a third one. I was a bit surprised they were able to make something as mundane as tailors, interesting :)

If Snowdrop is meant to be PURE fiction, why do they use names of actual organizations and detail accounts of those organization that actually happened in real life?

Doesn't that make the plot confusing as to what is real and what is not?

Couldn't the argument be made the actions of the ANSP being mentioned like the torture of innocents or framing are also fiction and didn't happen for real?

I recently had a conversation with someone regarding a plot point, and it made me reflect on how certain plot holes, could be trivialized into two columns. Either it's satire, so it's not a plot hole, or it's fiction, and thus also not a plot hole.

But wouldn't that mean that most Kdrama have no plot holes then?

With 9 episodes left. It's still possible I guess.

But a lot of political plot still needs to be covered for the plot to move along.

And it's kind of hard to move the romance timeline along when there is so much imbalance of power.

Soo ho would need to relinquish much of his power to see the romantic plot line go.

Sorry, I am not following.

Do you mean all the parts of the trailer has already been shown? I don't really see anything wrong with this per say.

probably because when people started watching, they didn't realize that so much of the drama would take place in the dorm.

That is a second team actually. They are both NK though, but he is suppose to rendezvous with team 2.

The show highlights trying to make everyone incompetent in an attempt or portraying political satire. Although I feel it missed the mark, that is the writer's intention.

The ethical pond is already plenty muddy, Young Ro's brother is just another thing Soo Ho will have to redeem himself with eventhough he only indirectly responsible.

So far, no one has had to pay, which means eventually someone will have to.

As part of the show staring to show the Soo Ho's more humane side. I am hoping he lets them sit down in the cafeteria to show some sense of normalcy. Otherwise, 8 more days on the floor? Seems awfully torturous.

YW? Who is that? You mean her brother?

It's arguable whether the dad is involved in it. The brother protested the ANSP, and the dad was not ANSP director at the time. Keep in mind the son was arrested for protesting, there is a chance the father using his connections brokered a deal, and one of the requirement is for the son to serve in the military. It could also be the son is just doing his mandatory military service as well.

One more thing, he is technically just an administrative clerk, so he isn't in the dangerous front lines even. It was just unfortunate he decided to go on patrol that night.

Same thing can be said for Soo Ho, it's not his fault the brother decided to come out on patrol.

Now if you are talking about the situation in general. Then yes, it's both their fault. But you can blame more people as well. The paper trail of blame is endless.

Are you implying all this has something to do with the controversy?

I hope not. Using a death for ANY ulterior motive is just plain classless and just not nice.

what is the reason? DM me for privacy.

I want to see some PPL about butt pillows. It's the perfect opportunity to be honest.

That's funny to think that stock traders are on MDL looking whether to sell or buy stocks of these production companies :)

Maybe I am spoiled... but 2 straight days sitting/lying down on the floor sounds like a nightmare to my butt and back.

As much as I'd like to see good things for Boon Ok and Comrade Joo, they are unfortunately the plot devices needed to stand between the love of Young Ro and Soo Ho.

Although Cheong Ya can replace Comrade Joo, but who will replace Boon Ok's role?

undecided

Doubt it.

May be the classy thing to do tbh.

Out of respect to misoo, may be good to hold off one week.