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Yes, I can also see why people like Arthit, he is quite empathetic with everyone save Paeng, because I believe she is his weak spot, like the only one to have seriously hurt him and who messed him up royally. He does have a good side, it’s just that I really can’t understand Paeng getting together with him after the torture he put her through, as I mentioned any normal girl would have left that farm by the fourth day. From what I remember, he just mentions to Jaem (one of Paeng’s maids) that he was also in the wrong, regarding the car accident, but he never mentions it to Paeng. But I am quite sure that he did not apologize for the torture he put her through, in episode 13 while talking to her in a restaurant he thanks her for saving one of his mother’s maids Thong and mentions that he is seeing the good in her and wants her to do the same to him. Later on, he is battling for her love, first as a sick person in the hospital, then when they went to his other house in the province and then at Jaem house. From what I remember, they do not further mention the torture he put her through at first, so I concluded he never apologized for it.

You are right about the premise of MFS, what I really liked was Paeng’s story, her life journey, how she matured and thrived in horrible circumstances. If the show centered only on her and less on Arthit, or at least made him less of a douche / torturer, I would have loved the show. I love stories from hate to love, but not ones who are that extreme, I mean… I used to love Mischievous Kiss: Love in Tokyo and there Irie Naoki is A DOUCHE to Aihara Kotoko, but he never really tortured her. He just made very clear from the get go that he is not interested, well he gave mixed signals hahahahaha, since he kisses her, but you get my point.

Regarding MHIL, you have some very valid points, but I would like to defend them and put them in the context the drama is showing it to us.

1. Muey’s changing temperament, I could understand. She was at first submissive because she loved him, her first love and did stupid things because of it. Then she became bold and flirty, because this was her last time with him, she wanted to have fun and for him to remember her fondly. Also, this was her last possible chance to be with him, so she resorted to everything under the sun to get his attention. So Muey starts to flirt with him and it turns out that is what he needed to open his heart, someone who could put up with his terrible moods and still keep trying to be close to him. I really think that is what finally did him in, when he finally recognized she was more complex than he thought, that she was fun and a clutz, but also very intelligent. The reason she was done with Thien’s shit is, because this high-handed individual stopped her from leaving him and did not inform her of the real reason why, which was that he finally realized he had feelings for her (not love yet, but that he really liked her). He was to focused on one-upmanship and less so on communicating his feelings, so she naturally assumed he was back to his teasing and messing with her, when all she wanted at this point was to leave him, like he had wanted to before. She wanted to get over him, was finally ready for it, and he stops her because of work?! Really?! Of course, she is mad as hell! Of course, she is through with his shit!

2. I also had some problems with Thien’s mother, like you said… she is HIS mother, but she is always protecting and championing Muey, to the detriment of her own son. But, I kind of understood her, she felt she owed Muey for saving Thien, although at the same time I was quite frustrated with her always messing in her child’s life. On the other hand, I kind of justify her interfering in Thien’s life after his near-death experience, because he was very nearly killed for misbehaving, for being such a play boy with so many women, until he crossed the path of a particularly dangerous one. She had not interfered before, accepted that her son was dating many women and would not settle down, at least not yet. But his being nearly killed was the last straw, so she forced her son to marry Muey, while also knowing that Muey would grant him a divorce if she did not make him fall for her. I think, she was trying with all her possible might, for Thien to see Muey in a new light and hope with every fiber of her being that he would fall for her. It worked, she really knew her son; he stopped seeing her as a little sister, which led to him finally recognizing his interest in her to be something entirely different in episode 10. In MFS, Arthit’s mom also interfered in his love life, pushing Nang as much as she could onto him and in the end by rejecting Paeng as her son’s life partner. I grant, that she only started to interfer when it began to be obvious to her, that Arthit was starting to be romantically interested in Paeng, for her that was the last straw, what she could not stomach.

3. Muey lowering her dignity, yes, I can see your problem with that one.
a. It is not healthy to make someone your whole world, but as I mentioned this is her first and only love, of course she would do that. I think the problem is, she was stuck on her first love, I mean she lived with HIM, if I had been in her position I would also have found it nearly impossible to get over him, while always seeing him.
b. When you say “No, means no”, you are right the answer is always NO, so she should not have been assaulting him, although I should point out that she only did it while drunk, when she tried to “rape” him and was not at all conscious. She also was quite aware since episode 3, that Thien did not love her and had no plans to love her in the future, and she accepted that. I remember seeing her seriously sad and quiet, with Thien looking at her worriedly, because he saw she heard what he told his mother, and then she trips and he piggyback’s her to her house and she cries in his back, while trying to hide it with the rain (quite broke my heart). To me that is when she accepted that he would NEVER love her, short of a direct love confession from Thien, she would never believe actions that indicated otherwise, because of this specific scene and the one at the disco club. Where he acted like he loved her and it turned out it was just a ploy on his part, he really hurt her, because for a minute there she believed he loved her. Words fail me in explaining how much I hated him for that, this is the scene where I nearly dropped the drama, it was to emotionally horrible for me.
c. Now, she did try to push herself on him in Dawei, but again clarification is needed. She asked for his consent to be able to hit on him, she was only teasing him, on the same level that he used to do to her in the beginning. Also, let’s remember everyone (the three amigos and Thien) knew she was only doing it for laughs and was not totally serous. Yes, she kind of hoped that he would change his mind, but again did not really believe it would happen.

4. Finally, the rape thing… OMG I hated that scene too, but I also try remember that she was nearly sober at the end, NEARLY being the operative word. Although, that is never an excuse, Thien should have gone about it the right way, wooing her, courting her, I don’t know. He was just filled with so much pride and arrogance, he never felt it was necessary to communicate his feeling clearly. He just wanted her to fall in with his plans, without explaining anything and therein lay his downfall. I do not understand this fascination that Lakorns have with rape, really. Is it a cultural thing?

I think I liked MHIL better because the premise was more real in my opinion, I could see why Muey would put up with him and at the end accept him wholeheartedly. Unlike in MFS, which had destroyed any possible romance in the “real world” by having Arthit torturing her so relentlessly. As I have mentioned, any normal woman would have left after the fourth day and sued Arthit, Arthit’s mom and the maids for mental and physical torture. Therefore, the possibility of Arthit falling in love with her is zero, if she not in the farm.

But yes, to each their own opinion, we all have different preferences and life experiences that makes up our likes and dislikes. I’ve read that Kleun Cheewit was great, but I am a bit leery of it, since I get that the ML wants revenge on FL. I am scared that he will torture her and mistreat her like in MFS or maybe worse, hahahaha. What do you think? Would I suffer to much watching it?

Watched the drama solely because of Mark Prin, who I first saw in My Husband In Law, and I loved him!!

So, I thought, to give this drama a try, but for me it was horrible, I literally struggled through each episode, since episode 3 up to episode 12. I just hated the ML so much, like I remember him and still feel rage deep inside in my heart, hahahaha. I loved him in the beginning, when he was all sweet and understanding of Paeng, and I could understand his stand from episode 3 to 5, I mean he had a teenage girl following him around and, for all intents and purposes assaulting him. But, he lost all of my quickly diminishing sympathy after episode 7, when he meets her again and is excessively cruel to her, like I mean Paeng had a hand in his accident, but man you were an adult and decided it was a great idea to go driving while drunk, I grant that he was frustrated because of Paeng's allegations, and she does share part of the blame, BUT his was the lion’s share!

Then came the phase which I would describe as… the bad old golden times of unbelievable Mexican melodramatic telenovelas, where the male lead is god incarnate and the poor female lead has to accept all the horrible treatment dished out to her, until he finally consents and graces her with his "love". For me, it was a real struggle to watch him being downright cruel, miserable, punishing, merciless bastard. Maybe because I never blamed Paeng for Arthit accident, since the beginning I was acutely aware that she is a 16-year-old girl who was going through unbelievable loss, BOTH of her parents died. Her whole world was turned upside down and she had lost her anchors, being sent to live in a strange house with people she only remembers meeting once and with that horrible mother of Arthit’s, who was quite ready from the get go to dislike the girl, being ungrateful by the second day of her stay in the farm.

As I mentioned above, I have already watched my Husband In Law and I fell in love with it. So, I do make some comparisons between shows too, hahaha, but from my POV MHIL comes out on top.

1. I only felt that Thien was excessively cruel to Muey once, when he played with her feelings, knowing full well she was in love with him and believe me, I was quite ready to drop the show at that point, but decided to persevere after that and loved the show so much. Thien’s mistreatment was never on par to that of Arthit’s, in the beginning he was never initially cruel to her, just uninterested in her. He teases her as brother does a sister from episode 1 to 3, up until he is finally aware she loves him, that's when he starts to give her a lot of work from episode 4 to 5 in the hopes she get over him and stops thinking about him romantically, and becomes a mean bastard when he erroneously believes she is a corporate spy from episode 6 to 7, from episode 8 onwards it's back to the beginning, like two siblings fighting each other. I was always aware that this show was a romantic comedy or romance, felt for the main characters and wished them together, he grows throughout the show, apologizing for his mistreatment of Muey and finally really loving her.
2. Unlike Arthit’s mistreatment of Paeng, he does physical and mental TORTURE, while publicly justifying his actions as permissible. His objective, in my personal opinion, was to strip her of her dignity and sense of worth, like when he took from her access to her OWN credit cards, making sure she suffered hunger, while working punishing hours in the sun. She could certainly have sued him for physical and mental TORTURE, and I would have applauded that and more, against that cold-hearted bastard. He starts treating her badly from episode 3 to 5, as a cockroach he wishes to crush from episode 6 to 12. I never felt I was watching a romantic comedy, or romance at all, maybe until episode 13 onward and interspersed with draggy murder/jealous plotline. He never apologizes for what he put the FL through, he just expects her understanding and forgiveness as his due.

I think that my biggest reason for not like MFS was that, I found it too unbelievable that Paeng would stay and withstand that kind of torture, I believe any normal woman would have left that bloody farm as soon as Arthit’s father arrived. He was that horrible, so for me that invalidates any future possible romance, since no one would have stayed to be tortured further. I do concede that, when Arthit does realizes he loves her, he is deeply in love and quite cute in trying to show it to Paeng, I am totally convinced of his love for her by the end of the tv show, it’s just that his earlier behavior for me was unforgivable, more so since he never does apologize for it. Comparing to MHIL, as I have mentioned, from my POV Thien did not mistreat Muey to the level Arthit perfects on Paeng, yes, he messes with her, because he derives his fun from that and let’s face it, Muey makes it way to easy. She gives way to him on everything, because she is blindly in love with him and always chooses to forgive his teasing, let’s remember that she is still in the throes of her first and only love, we all behaved stupidly before our crushes, at least I know I did. He cares about her, as shown when he puts himself in between the car and Muey, or when he is in the hospital from his near drowning, he repeatedly asks to see her and the clincher for me is, he was always acutely aware of her, always watching her, his mouth said something completely different from what his eyes were saying.

Finally, I do recognize the actors, especially Mark Prin, he is an amazing performer and I am in awe at how good he at transmitting different emotions. I sincerely am really impressed! He is right up there with the best Korean and Chinese actors that I follow and respect. His female leads are amazing too, Kao Suppasara and Mew Nitta, although I believe there is still room for improvement, I feel they are still not at Mark’s level.

Sorry for the length of this comment, but once I start writing I just cannot stop, hahaha.

Yes, that I can understand, we all have different preferences... I really struggled watching MFS, more to the point, I suffered through it. Because for me, the ML was deeply unlikable and I could not understand the romance. I literally saw how the ML fell slowly in love with FL, but for me FL accepting him after everything he did was baffling and unrealistic. Unlike in MHIL, I could see that the ML was fond of FL from the beginning, the problem was that he was to stuck on her being his "sister", I saw him slowly realizing his love for the FL and here I could understand the FL accepting him, since he was never particularly cruel and he apologized. As you mentioned, everyone has their preferences, I watched MFS because of Mark Prin and that's the only reason I finished the drama, hahaha.

I understand your POV, but when you say My Forever Sunshine far excedes this one, I find that incomprensible, because there the ML is downright cruel, miserable, punishing, merciless bastard. That ML mistreats the FL way worse, he does physical and mental TORTURE, while publicly justifying his actions as permissible. His objective, in my personal opinion, was to strip her of her dignity and sense of worth, like when he took from her access to her OWN credit cards, making sure she suffered hunger, while working punishing hours in the sun. She could certainly have sued him for physical and mental TORTURE, and I would have applauded that and more, against that cold-hearted bastard. He starts treating her as a worse than a cockroach from episode 3 to episode 12. I never felt I was watching a romantic comedy, or romance at all, maybe until episode 14 onward and interspersed with draggy murder/jealous plotline. He never apologizes for what he put the FL through, he just expects her understanding and forgiveness as his due.

Whereas in My Husband In Law, yes the ML does mistreat the FL, but it is mostly teasing and giving her a lot of work, as a way to stop her from loving him further, since he does not love her. Now, there was one instance where he deliberately played with her feelings, and that is the only one I couldn't stand and nearly dropped the drama because of it. Also on the "cruel nature" of the ML, I would argue he was never initially cruel to her, just uninterested in her, he teases her as brother does a sister from episode 1 to 3, up until he finally is aware she loves him, that's when he starts to give her a lot of work from episode 4 to 5, and becomes a mean bastard when he erroneously believes she is a corporate spy from episode 6 to 7, from episode 8 onwards it's thoroughly a romantic comedy. Also most importantly, ML apologizes to FL beautifully for everything he did to her and for not recognizing the treasure her love is, unlike the ML in My Forever Sunshine.

There sure were signs that Thien cared for her since the beginning, I mean he was always watching her... his mouth always said something different from what his eyes were expressing. If you have someone watching you, as intentenly as Thien does Muey, you sure are very lucky. Also, he is always jealous of men showing interest in Muey. I mean, since the moment he meets P'Kob, he is insane with jealousy and dislikes him at first sight, because he recognizes almost immediately that P'Kob likes Muey and that he is a truly dangerous rival. But his main problem is, that he had early on labeled her sister thanks to his mom and at the same time he is jealous of the love his mom has for Muey, so he simply refuses to acknowledge his feelings.

I felt the the same as you, I was within an inch of dropping this drama in episode 6, if I remember correctly. I hated the ML, after he played with her feelings so callously, when he acted like he loved her. But before that, I understood him, he didn't want to marry her and he believed he would NEVER fall in love with her. So, he did everything possible to discourage her, up until he started playing with her feelings when he thought she was a corporate spy, I could understand him, after that?? HELL NO!! I persevered, surviving to episode 8 and from then on I fell in love with the drama...

I also do not buy his, I was ALWAYS in love with you conclusion, but he was ALWAYS acutely aware of her... his mouth said something completely different from what his eyes were saying, he was always watching her with interest. I believe, he starts to fall for her in Dawei, when Muey starts to flirt with him, because that is what he needed, someone who could put up with his terrible moods and still keep trying to be close to him. Eventhough, he and everyone knew that Muey was only doing it for laughs and was not serious with her flirting, I think that is what finally did him in. She finally felt free to show her feelings and laugh at them, because she was absolutely convinced that Thien would never love her. The problem is that, when Muey finally allows herself to be who she really is with Thien, he falls for her... something that she NEVER expected.

She was crying, because she finally believes he loves her! Since he is finally sincere and communicated his feelings clearly and correctly; but in typical Thien fashion, he makes a decision all alone, without discussing things face to face, openly with her and decides unilaterally to leave.

Exactly!! In this drama, oblivious thy name is Thien... he so loved her since before, but he never noticed it... he thought he only liked to tease and mess with her... I have watched the series several times now and can see that since the very begging he was way to aware of her, like man, he was always watching her!!

While I can understand a little that the mom does not like her, Paeng was out of control from episode 1 to 5 and more importantly, she was not aware of the the circumstance of Paeng's parents death. But, her treatment of Paeng almost from the get go is horrible, loosing in only one day any patience for a 16 year old who lost BOTH her parents so soon, treating her badly by the second day and never giving her the benefit of the doubt that she has a reason for her actions. For example, in Paeng's treatment of Thanon's awful sister. Since the very beginning she wanted to find fault in Paeng and her two horrible maids helped in painting her as a pampered awful child early on, because they saw their employee's wish from the very beginning to dislike the girl.

I totally agree with you!! I completed watching the whole 19 episode drama, but I suffered through it.... believing any minute now the ML and his mother would treat her better. Then I read in the comments and reviews here that it would get sooo much better after episode 5 or 8, and I thought "ok, let's soldier on, I really do want and need to watch him in love, and it's going to be any episode now".... but it was a BIG FAT LIE!! It was until episode 12/13 where he finally admits to be in love and does not completely abuse and hurt her like he wants her dead. I also think that the ML has zero reason to treat her like he does nor does he deserve to be vengeful towards her, his accident was as much his fault as it was hers, more so in fact. He was an adult, who decided to drive while drunk; after serious provocation and false statements leveled against him because of her, but still HIS fault.

Moey asked for a divorce because, while we the viewers are aware of their love for each other, she is blind to it. She simply doesn't see it nor believes it, let's remember that Thien just wants to dictate and impose, never explaining to her that he loves her to distraction and making her believe him. Also he is continually messing with her, loosing any and all credibility in her eyes.

Regarding his loving her since High School, I don't understand it completely, because for me this was sprung on us out of the blue, but what I understand is this. He learned she was his mentee in the first 4 episodes, I believe, but as he himself explains, he never saw the face of his mentee and later on he met her as Aunt Prahpa's daughter, never realizing they were one and the same. Up until he reads her diary and then they go to their home town (Phucket), where he goes to their school, finally confirming that she was his mentee, and supposedly his "first love".

Well it's different tastes, MFS reminded me a lot of mediocre suffering Mexican telenovelas. I was frustrated with the drama since episode 3 up to episode 12. Completely hating the ML and constantly wondering why, oh why the FL stayed and endured so much mistreatment from that ML bastard. Contrasting to the fun and light romantic comedy of MHIL, where I liked the ML and FL from the get go, loving the main couple so much. The ML was never excessively cruel to the FL, unlike the first drama; but as I mentioned before, everyone has different tastes and likes.

I believe My husband in Law is way better, its 4 episodes shorter, but by episode 8 is all fun. Also the male lead just loves to tease her and is never deliberately cruel to her; well maybe only once was he way too cruel, but it is during the first 7 episodes. He does not want to give her hope that they will ever be together, since he "belives" he does not love her. And he has a real problem communicating his love to her, making her aware of it, because he is never direct and by the time he relises he loves and likes her, she is completely convinced he'll never love her. So from there springs the real problem between them and he's obsession with control and his natural arrogance. He just wants her to fall in his plans, without informing her of the change in his feelings.

Unlike the male lead in My Forever Sunshine, at first he is lovely and empathetic, but he quickly loses his patience with a young girl of 16, who it has to be said, becomes a possessive stocker who wants to marry him. After the "incident", he becomes a cruel miser, who is always trying to find problems and faults with her. He is rude and evil, I could have dealt with it, if it had not gone on for way too long and then, abruptly, he relises he's fallen in love. Please, after episode 5 to 12 of him treating her like dirt, and noticing that he's being jealous and possessive of her, he makes a 180° and is suddenly super nice to her. Granted his falling in love is very gradual, so gradual as a tortoise, and you can see it and see him denying it, because of his trauma. This series was way to frustrating for my taste, he does fall in love hard and you see him being so sweet to her during the last 4 episodes. But all the torture he put her through has to be answered for, because it was so clear to everyone she had changed after some episodes, but him, his mom and two of their servants, never gave her a chance. Also, like Thien in MHIL; Arthit is a great fan of withholding information, which lead to her making incorrect conclusions.

Does anyone know if this drama has finished airing in HBO Asia??

Someone suggested it earlier... I will try it!! Which VPN provider do you recommend??

But Miss S is only in HBO Asia, it is not in HBO USA or HBO Latam... So all of us in America can't watch Miss S... :'(

Nor on HBO Go Latam... it os too sad since de ATE not able to see this series... ?

Anyone know where I can watch this tv show with English subs?? I have HBO GO Latam and it is not available here.... :'(

If there are english subs, please send me the link too...?? I am dying to see it!!