OMG, the corridor scene where he is crying, sobbing without breath, begging for apology to TJ for her suffering and hard life. Break my heart but I am in awe of WC performance there. Him saying “I thought only I had suffered...” melted all my anger towards him. Such a fantastic performance.
I can’t help but applaud LXR for keeping dud face all the time, as she knows the pain she had endured is nothing what she is facing now, her biggest concern is her child, she doesn’t give a fuck to world. TJ keeping herself compose and calm Infront of NYS, and trying not to break, because she knows she can’t break, as her child is slipping her hands day by day, she can’t let her emotions set in other direction, ends up giving in with bare face.
It is a story of warmth, anger and how two people can suffer just because they love too much.
Only 1 episode today, and tomorrow also 1 episode.
Drama has reach to the middle, and 15th was one of the best episodes so far.
Everything is clear and secrets are open by this episode. pacing and story growth is one of very rare to be seen in CN drama.
I hope it follow what is happening, and out of no where they don't show happy ending. Shows like these should end in tragedy, otherwise it won't make sense, as the circumstances of both leads are opposite no matter how much love is involved. It is not CLOY type situation.
Too much betrayal, and pain was involved, and I don't think, how they can show them together. I can understand if they show them together at the end, but it will be unrealistic and irrational.
I want FL to die, so her father suffers the most, second, ML suffers for bringing hell on her. Directly or indirectly, he is the reason of her miseries, regardless of how he was betrayed by his own country or not, the fact that he is a spy and was there to carry out a mission, makes him guilty in my eyes, if I was in South. Also If I was him, I would fight for my country, thinking it is right thing to do.
Soldiers or spies like him, suddenly don't turn back on their countries like that, that was unrealistic, spies have years of years of trainings and experience and are prepared for every possible situation. If he is a rare case, then it is very dramatic change, hence drama.
Otherwise, this series was roller coaster ride of emotions and I enjoyed it a lot.
Could you please list a few of the ways BB blazed new trails and set new trends for the BL industry? What are…
At-least we agreed on ITSAY and IPYTM . I loved that series, elated production, Nadao nailed everything in it. Plus I am forever in love with that series, I have saved these two series in my archives, for times I fear it will not be available anymore. I often watch them time to time. I had 0 complaints for second part, where everyone lamented it, I loved it to death.
As for BB, It gives me happiness, thats why I liked it. Sometimes you just need happiness more than anything. I guess thats what BB did for me.
But I also know BB is not new but it sure has set some boundaries.
Could you please list a few of the ways BB blazed new trails and set new trends for the BL industry? What are…
I will try but if you are here to pick my words then you won't find my answer satisfactory.
1- This series solely focused on relationship of two people, and other people complete them not interfere. As compared to other series who has tons of people coming in the way of leads, and typical misunderstanding and of course “gay for you” shenanigans, BB offers you a fresh take on relationship.
2- BB doesn't preface coming out history for you or does not offer you their coming to terms to sexuality thing. I think, as important as it is for everyone to come out and have peace of mind, we have passed through explanation and acceptance phase long ago, and it should no longer be a part of story if it doesn’t have to be. Two people falling in love, shouldn’t requires anyone acceptance as long as the people involved don’t feel the need of it.
3- There are no side couples, no second lead syndrome, no evil scheming, planning and plotting.
4- BB has expanded the term BL as it rebukes “Uke/Seme” concept of BL, and allowed that two same genders are equal in relationship and one doesn’t need protection, caring, and to be carted for all the time. BL circles around this Uke and Seme concept, where you can clearly identify who is dominant (in simple words top) and who is submissive (bottom), and many BL set some traits for lead actors in their respective characters. BB give you two people equally emotional, vulnerable, also good and bad at equal things - there is no clear definition of Pran being bottom, or Pat being top, although the notion is set, but it is not handed to you that Pran is your typical uke and pat is seme. Also, the euphemisms were avoided throughout the series. Not to mention it also gives you a lesbian couple in a very clever manner.
5- Parents were never a problem, they had their own issues that hindered their relationship but unlike other series, it wasn’t about them falling in love. It was so good to see that they didn’t show their parents sitting and laughing, rather shown that course has changed and their hearts were softened to their conflicts, that allowed their children to breathe a little. If last episodes, like other has shown their parents mingling as if nothing happened, it would have been unrealistic.
6- BB, in terms of story, writing, pace and acting is one of very few series, that offers you a chance to know the characters, grow with them together, laugh with them, cry with them, and at the same become anxious with them. For 12 episodes, there wasn’t a single episode or scene I felt I had to force myself to watch, it just flowed naturally every scene, every moment.
7- When I said “true” my meaning wasn’t that others are fake and my meaning from piece of “art” doesn’t mean other are piece of trash. In my heart.... ITSAY, and IPYTM are true pieces of art I saw after a long time in my journey of watching LGBTQ for over a decade. However, BB surprises me, and opened many boxes of joy for me, that became the reason to call it a piece of art.
Backaof clearly visioned the series and understood what needed to be shown, what needed to be said, and what required to be explained through the spectacle of a viewer. All three writers of series have some of the very mature BL series under their belt, so writers sprinkled equal magic when creating dialogues for them. Their lines were very subtle and not cheesy at all, them calling them sweet names, and kissing them was choreographed in such a way that as natural and not a cringeworthy. For instance the last scene where loser had to do anything a winner would ask was magical for me, I never thought how would they play a game, but they did and it was so good, like “what is my name?” like they wanted each other to loose, and for me it melted everything there, scenes like this, writing like this has been uniform throughout the series. Not to mention the product placement was one of the best I have ever seen.
Having said this, BB is not the best, as number 1 spot always remain empty, there are three Thai series, “1000 Stars”, “I Told Sunset About You”, and “I Promised You The Moon”, that are excellent in production qualities, acting, writing and character growth but it falls short on happiness and are very close to my heart. But BB gives you utter joy and smiles with tears here and there, while the mentioned one gives you more tears than happiness. I am huge “sad” fan so I can’t complain but if I have to be neutral then BB takes the cake here.
I hope it explains my take on what I said, and everyone is entitled to their likeness, and I never truly persuade someone to like what I like, it is totally up to others, and them not liking this series, or other series won’t make any difference for me.
I think some epilogues are. The one for ep03 though, where she is on the operating table thinking she is going…
a mother, or any person who has a person who is their last hope of living, they would do anything to protect and save them, it is just that she has not wronged him, and neither she is wrong, her circumstances and her story is hidden from us, and it has something to do with his father dying on hands of ML father.
She couldn't tell ML about it, as it he would 100% leave his father, as he was already living with FL, despite his father disapproval.
So I think she took the money from his father as a revenge and decided to break things with ML although she knew he did nothing wrong, but it was her who suffered if she remained in relationship because of her resentment towards his father.
Her lowering her pride to a person she loves the most after their child, she knew only he could help him, no matter what so despite burning all bridges she went in a hope to ask for help, as she know it is not her child but also his.
But I see someone dying in previews and trailers, and it is likely 2 person, either his father or their child, but I am guessing their child will die leaving TJ to pick herself from the start and then the battle of Second lead and Male lead for the company, and if you don't know SML is likely to be the step older brother of NY.
yeah but why is Shu Qin in a wedding dress? Is she going to marry or almost-marry ML? What are we going to do…
no they are not getting married, ML never going to marry SQ, also SQ will never love ML. A new chapter is going to open with ML father going into coma. And ML becoming president of his company with Sheng Fang coming as rival, possibly his step brother for revenge, but he is not evil, just hurt.
BB was a trailblazer, trendsetter, and a true piece of art.
It was a simple story done outstanding by director, writer and mostly the actors.
You don't expect much from a BL even if it is top notch, as the concept of BL itself is controversial no matter from what perspective you see it. But there have been very few exceptions, where Thai BL industry has expanded this genre to LGBTQ+ by showing exceptional work.
BB from the first episode to last was amusing, beautiful, breathtaking, and entertaining, in every aspect. Not a single scene was filler, left out and felt boring.
Of all the BL currently exist this takes the cake.
Thank you for wonderful 13 weeks, I hope to see them successful in their respective choices, let's not pressure them to do a BL together, it is their choice, and not bound them to BL only, as actors job is not to do a BL but to act.
If you think he's trashy in the drama, he's even worse in the book. They made him a lot nicer in the drama.
like the whole husband situation, and when he finds out or she tells him that pingping is their child. Also, when husband leaves, and how child settled with his real father, and when they get together. The bigest of all why she left him?
mother running with his child in the middle of night to nowhere, in a fear she might not see him again, breaks my heart more than a breakup of leads.
One sad story wasn't enough on that they made her suffer like that. But she herself has said, she is a living corps, and she and her life ended when her father died. She is just living for Pingping's sake.
how could I miss about KSY, my gaydar has lost it signals, why I couldn't sense there was a history between them... seriously Korea is taking steps one at a time...
this drama is pure addiction. can't get it out of my head .... dying for todays episodes, still long way for them to reconcile, my patience is loosing...
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I can’t help but applaud LXR for keeping dud face all the time, as she knows the pain she had endured is nothing what she is facing now, her biggest concern is her child, she doesn’t give a fuck to world. TJ keeping herself compose and calm Infront of NYS, and trying not to break, because she knows she can’t break, as her child is slipping her hands day by day, she can’t let her emotions set in other direction, ends up giving in with bare face.
It is a story of warmth, anger and how two people can suffer just because they love too much.
Only 1 episode today, and tomorrow also 1 episode.
Drama has reach to the middle, and 15th was one of the best episodes so far.
Everything is clear and secrets are open by this episode. pacing and story growth is one of very rare to be seen in CN drama.
Too much betrayal, and pain was involved, and I don't think, how they can show them together. I can understand if they show them together at the end, but it will be unrealistic and irrational.
I want FL to die, so her father suffers the most, second, ML suffers for bringing hell on her. Directly or indirectly, he is the reason of her miseries, regardless of how he was betrayed by his own country or not, the fact that he is a spy and was there to carry out a mission, makes him guilty in my eyes, if I was in South. Also If I was him, I would fight for my country, thinking it is right thing to do.
Soldiers or spies like him, suddenly don't turn back on their countries like that, that was unrealistic, spies have years of years of trainings and experience and are prepared for every possible situation. If he is a rare case, then it is very dramatic change, hence drama.
Otherwise, this series was roller coaster ride of emotions and I enjoyed it a lot.
As for BB, It gives me happiness, thats why I liked it. Sometimes you just need happiness more than anything. I guess thats what BB did for me.
But I also know BB is not new but it sure has set some boundaries.
1- This series solely focused on relationship of two people, and other people complete them not interfere. As compared to other series who has tons of people coming in the way of leads, and typical misunderstanding and of course “gay for you” shenanigans, BB offers you a fresh take on relationship.
2- BB doesn't preface coming out history for you or does not offer you their coming to terms to sexuality thing. I think, as important as it is for everyone to come out and have peace of mind, we have passed through explanation and acceptance phase long ago, and it should no longer be a part of story if it doesn’t have to be. Two people falling in love, shouldn’t requires anyone acceptance as long as the people involved don’t feel the need of it.
3- There are no side couples, no second lead syndrome, no evil scheming, planning and plotting.
4- BB has expanded the term BL as it rebukes “Uke/Seme” concept of BL, and allowed that two same genders are equal in relationship and one doesn’t need protection, caring, and to be carted for all the time. BL circles around this Uke and Seme concept, where you can clearly identify who is dominant (in simple words top) and who is submissive (bottom), and many BL set some traits for lead actors in their respective characters. BB give you two people equally emotional, vulnerable, also good and bad at equal things - there is no clear definition of Pran being bottom, or Pat being top, although the notion is set, but it is not handed to you that Pran is your typical uke and pat is seme. Also, the euphemisms were avoided throughout the series. Not to mention it also gives you a lesbian couple in a very clever manner.
5- Parents were never a problem, they had their own issues that hindered their relationship but unlike other series, it wasn’t about them falling in love. It was so good to see that they didn’t show their parents sitting and laughing, rather shown that course has changed and their hearts were softened to their conflicts, that allowed their children to breathe a little. If last episodes, like other has shown their parents mingling as if nothing happened, it would have been unrealistic.
6- BB, in terms of story, writing, pace and acting is one of very few series, that offers you a chance to know the characters, grow with them together, laugh with them, cry with them, and at the same become anxious with them. For 12 episodes, there wasn’t a single episode or scene I felt I had to force myself to watch, it just flowed naturally every scene, every moment.
7- When I said “true” my meaning wasn’t that others are fake and my meaning from piece of “art” doesn’t mean other are piece of trash. In my heart.... ITSAY, and IPYTM are true pieces of art I saw after a long time in my journey of watching LGBTQ for over a decade. However, BB surprises me, and opened many boxes of joy for me, that became the reason to call it a piece of art.
Backaof clearly visioned the series and understood what needed to be shown, what needed to be said, and what required to be explained through the spectacle of a viewer. All three writers of series have some of the very mature BL series under their belt, so writers sprinkled equal magic when creating dialogues for them. Their lines were very subtle and not cheesy at all, them calling them sweet names, and kissing them was choreographed in such a way that as natural and not a cringeworthy. For instance the last scene where loser had to do anything a winner would ask was magical for me, I never thought how would they play a game, but they did and it was so good, like “what is my name?” like they wanted each other to loose, and for me it melted everything there, scenes like this, writing like this has been uniform throughout the series. Not to mention the product placement was one of the best I have ever seen.
Having said this, BB is not the best, as number 1 spot always remain empty, there are three Thai series, “1000 Stars”, “I Told Sunset About You”, and “I Promised You The Moon”, that are excellent in production qualities, acting, writing and character growth but it falls short on happiness and are very close to my heart. But BB gives you utter joy and smiles with tears here and there, while the mentioned one gives you more tears than happiness. I am huge “sad” fan so I can’t complain but if I have to be neutral then BB takes the cake here.
I hope it explains my take on what I said, and everyone is entitled to their likeness, and I never truly persuade someone to like what I like, it is totally up to others, and them not liking this series, or other series won’t make any difference for me.
She couldn't tell ML about it, as it he would 100% leave his father, as he was already living with FL, despite his father disapproval.
So I think she took the money from his father as a revenge and decided to break things with ML although she knew he did nothing wrong, but it was her who suffered if she remained in relationship because of her resentment towards his father.
Her lowering her pride to a person she loves the most after their child, she knew only he could help him, no matter what so despite burning all bridges she went in a hope to ask for help, as she know it is not her child but also his.
But I see someone dying in previews and trailers, and it is likely 2 person, either his father or their child, but I am guessing their child will die leaving TJ to pick herself from the start and then the battle of Second lead and Male lead for the company, and if you don't know SML is likely to be the step older brother of NY.
It was a simple story done outstanding by director, writer and mostly the actors.
You don't expect much from a BL even if it is top notch, as the concept of BL itself is controversial no matter from what perspective you see it. But there have been very few exceptions, where Thai BL industry has expanded this genre to LGBTQ+ by showing exceptional work.
BB from the first episode to last was amusing, beautiful, breathtaking, and entertaining, in every aspect. Not a single scene was filler, left out and felt boring.
Of all the BL currently exist this takes the cake.
Thank you for wonderful 13 weeks, I hope to see them successful in their respective choices, let's not pressure them to do a BL together, it is their choice, and not bound them to BL only, as actors job is not to do a BL but to act.
Good luck and thank you.
One sad story wasn't enough on that they made her suffer like that. But she herself has said, she is a living corps, and she and her life ended when her father died. She is just living for Pingping's sake.
Also, her fiancé to be husband, has written on his face, that in every series he can't play a nice guy role.
It wasn't a secret, I guessed it long time a go.
MDL is somewhat homophobic as they still haven't added Gagaoolala as a streaming service for BL LGBTQAI contents.