absurd

Sorry, but there's just no way in hell for me to like him. Like I said, they went too far with his "bad" side, transition to being less of a douche just don't seem plausible at this point.

You missed my point. I said, that I understand what was the problem, not that I feel said for him. That was literally the point of my whole post, that he's such a douche, it's impossible to care about his problems. I was just explaining that it was not just "his mom giving him freedom"

Yes, like SS said he has the power, so people obey him. That does not mean that what he did was proper or polite, it just means that people with power can do whatever and people who don't have power will have to deal with it.

I guess that works, maybe. She's not much of a highlighter though LOL

Ah, who knows. C-drams love to turn characters like this into vengeful harpies, but I just don't see it with her. So, likely there won't be much relevance

What do you mean? Her parents treated her well and her aunt dotes on her. Shaoshang was the one treated like trash, yet Yang Yang is the one who looks "woe is me" at every occasion

I can understand where he's coming from, even though I don't feel sympathetic. He wants his mom to care and she just doesn't. It's not that she trusts him to make his own decisions and do what's best for himself, but that she just does not give a s**t

I think it was her defending mommy Cheng that got me ))) usually she is pretty bland and in the background, the sour face though... I can't

Exactly! What was so bad about her life for her to be so sad all the time?

There were so many comments liking her, I thought I was the only one LOL She's just such a bland character, always bringing the mood down.

C-dramas sometimes just don't know how to balance a "kind of bad, but sympathetic character". They go so far with the "bad", that it's difficult to feel any sympathy even when given reasons. Like Yuan Shen, I would have felt bad for him and his "mom doesn't care" situation if he wasn't such a douche ALL THE TIME. Also I really don't understand why everyone keeps excusing mom's actions. This is not actually a runt :) I really don't get it. I know there's a cultural difference, because Chinese people are all about respecting their elders (nothing wrong with that) and also because of the time period. But I feel like there should be limits to what can be called "trying to do what's best for your naive child". And now we are going the "protective mom feels bad and sad" route again, but there's just not way to feel in any way understanding after what she's done.

I can't with YangYang's sour face. I hate characters like her and her constantly SAD facial expression doesn't make it better. Sorry, I know a lot of people like her. Just ignore me, I'm ranting.

Ling Buyiye and Cheng Shaoshang a match made in heaven: she hasn't been taught how to behave properly, he doesn't care about acting properly LOL

To me it looks like she want's her daughter to just die alone at this point

I think that was exactly why he did it. To force her and her parents to accept

Yes, exactly that. It's just excuses at this point

True, isn't it better to actually know what the problems are, rather then it be something discreet that SS only finds out once she's married? She can never know for sure. There are million ways in which a marriage destroy itself, not all of them are obvious or even there from the get go

No one actually knows if any marriage will work out. Just because a family or a guy does not have any visible problems, doesn't mean there aren't any. Any marriage, even the happiest one can go down the drain is couple of years. You either go for it and trust that you'll be able to bear it, or stay alone forever. Mom is not a prophet, she will never know for sure and she can't live SS's life for her. And it's not actually the sentiment that I'm objecting to, if it actually looked like she was trying to protect CSS instead of ruining her life, I would understand. But she, quite literally, almost destroyed her daughter's reputation.

I mean, what more does she need? An honored general, favored by the Emperor, as his own son, dream guy of every girl in town, said he will love Shaoshang no matter what. And mom be like "this is a bad idead it won't work, don't come crying to me afterwards". Even if it doesn't work, mom'll be the last person she goes to.

Also, "his family is complicated" excuse is not valid, because LBY is a grown man who lives in his own house, and doesn't actually interact with his father unless forced to. And his mom is like, a little crazy, but actually seems nice. So, bull, mom, stop making up excuses why you feel the need to constantly humiliate your kid