the thing is, this scriptwriter also wrote yanxi palace, which imo, was done very VERY well and resulted in one…
Also not all good screenwriters are over 50, there are some younger screenwriters that are equally as good as those that are 50 or older. Of course I am not certain what your standard is when considered what a good screenwriter is. Whether a drama has a good script or not is all based on personal opinion/preference :)
the thing is, this scriptwriter also wrote yanxi palace, which imo, was done very VERY well and resulted in one…
What I mean about his age is that the jokes and tropes he's using for the couples to me feels outdated and not humours, like he intended them to be. For example the second sister's marriage and the martial violence against her philandering husband - that's classic Chinese old cinema humour, which unfortunately falls flat to me at best and worse is highly uncomfortable to watch. That's the only reason I'm bring up age. Yes Yanxi is well written but it's not intended as a comedy drama so I can't truly see the drama being a good comparison. Also I'm not saying he's a bad scriptwriter because of his age. I'm saying the jokes that he's trying to make in this drama are not working as well as he intended them to perhaps because there's a generational gap between what he finds funny and what the more younger generation would.
loll DYX didn't really give LXY any chance to talk to him. Considering they are the next main couple though we…
lol yeah - for someone so rigid in his views the new son-in-law changes his tune way to quickly I think speaking to him directly might have been considered improper - although the little time skip we have also didn't help as we aren't really shown the process of how the mother simply just accepted a change in which daughter her son marries, although it is implied that she likes the first sister I think LXY knows of course that she can't expect to be treated as a true wife, unfortunately the women around her are of course all up in arms about how she is being treated. Especially the third sister as it's her happiness which has resulted in her sister's unhappiness. LXY herself says she just wants basically an amicable roommate (not a quote but my interpretation of what she says). 😂
But seriously how does one manage to make every single male character unlikable??
because I think the drama intended them to be made fun of but they really missed the mark a bit... 😕 a lot of the humour unfortunately is not computing because too much humour relies upon things like disrespectful misogyny and unclever misunderstandings rooted in extremely flawed characters that don't seem to be getting much character development
Episode 11: The show promotes itself as a light-hearted comedy types, but I'd like to see a little bit more depth…
loll DYX didn't really give LXY any chance to talk to him. Considering they are the next main couple though we should be getting more fleshed out characters... hopefully...
Idk how I feel about this drama quite yet. I already didn't like the 2nd sister's marriage. Maybe I expected too…
the second sister's marriage is honestly representation of a very old comedy trope in classic Chinese cinema - it's suppose to be funny but I agree, the marital violence of the 2nd sister in response to the philandering husband just falls flat and uncomfortable for me. thankfully they do tone this down as the story goes on
I’m not a huge fan of historical dramas. Would you guys still recommend this? Is this good? I keep seeing clips…
Yes comedy is definitely a tag that applies here, but whether or not the humour is your type is up to your own personal taste. The men and women in this drama are both flawed individuals (full of prejudice, pride, greed, wrath, lust, etc) and their actions are antagonistic towards each other to varying degrees. Even though there are some issues that the drama presents as funny that makes me uncomfortable, I have largely laughed and found this a heartwarming family drama.
a man attempted to sexually assault her sister-in-law/adopted sister and the ML comes asking for the comb that…
Even to an intelligent and competent woman, in the heat of the moment after finding out her sister was sexual assault and just tried to kill herself, I honestly understand why someone wouldn't have the ability to think and ask someone 'did you do that to my sister?!". On top of that, the FL cannot lightly mention such a thing in public on their front doorstep - it would ruin all the reputations of the women in her family.
FL is behaving pretty unreasonably. So she throws tea into ML's face, breaks a rare comb, slaps him, and again…
a man attempted to sexually assault her sister-in-law/adopted sister and the ML comes asking for the comb that the sister got from her attacker. Lol I definitely don't think she's being unreasonable. We as the viewers know he didn't do it, but she didn't in the moment when he came knocking on her doorstep.
So I'm not going to say that everything made perfect sense but to me (and I didn't read the novel just going off…
lol my take is that TMS basically does learn what it means to have emotions in the end which is why he turns good, but yes I agree execution is really iffy and ending has it's big bumps and bruises. Fengyao's death scene with him can either be seen as him realising emotion or still being an emotionless bastard, but honestly I was surprised by the emotional response from TMS as it deviates from the characterisation so I saw it as an awakening - only I fully admit the scene really falls flat cause the dialogue just makes me seriously think Fengyao is just still in denial that she had fallen for TMS. I didn't understand her distinction between TMS and NXY lol as technically NXY is basically a version of TMS. Same issue with the whole A Zhu/MXL and ZM/XXC.
The other thing I would say though is that just cause TH decides to clean up the system doesn't mean the version of CP and TMS personalities would survive intact. Actions, events, and memories are what make a person and my example would be that ultimately TMS, like CP, has learned to think, feel and want independence from their creator TH and in choosing rebellion he decides to give CP what she wants - although I'm still not certain about whether he loves CP or is just attached to her because they'd been created together and been at each other sides for so many centuries. I do think part of his obsession is rooted in loneliness, although TMS would surely deny it and claim it's simply because she needs to return to her rightful place in the cosmic order, which is probably why he's so hell bent on getting CP back.
Lol ending is full of loopholes after loopholes but I enjoyed it probably cause I have not read the book. I know once I finish the book, I will definitely be totally disappointed with this drama ending though lol - this always happens after I read the book!
I honestly feel soo discouraged after seeing how much the fl is being treated and abused and im knly on ep 2.…
I can relate. Personally I fast forward a bit as the scenes are really quite triggering so if it's discouraging feel free to fast forward. You won't miss anything really important.
I think He Wei Fang and Sheng Yi are both in the wrong here. I know everyone's hating on Sheng Yi here but ignoring…
I agree and disagree a bit. I agree Mudan doesn't understand Shengyi's wish or need to marry as Mudan's marriage was nothing but a horrible. Mudan also has a very strong/independent personality unlike Shengyi's personality which is more that of a follower/nurturer. I think what Mudan's trying to emphasis to Shengyi is that Wang Qing is definitely not the right choice and that she shouldn't settle for a man that will abuse her. Her way of doing so is to show Shengyi that she has the ability to financially support herself. Also Mudan never specifies that in the future they shouldn't get married, but I think at this point in their lives she is more focused on achieving financial independence for not just herself but all the ladies. I think that is probably why she didn't really address Shengyi's concerns about marriage, because to her that's not the biggest concern at the moment if they want to survive. Unfortunately, Shengyi's psyche is very fragile so the pressures and fears she's facing lead her to choose and settle for what's familiar to her.
What I disagree is that the women who join the business all being forced to want that independent living as all of them at least joined because they wanted the ability to make their own choices in life and pursue their own passions and interests. Even Shengyi joined the business to survive and gain independence from herself after her divorce too at the start.
I get that she’s a victim of abuse and sometimes victims feel its hard to let go of something so toxic and hurtful…
Completely agree! I think Shengyi has not yet been able to complete walk out/away from the destructive cycle of abuse. Even though Mudan has shown her that she has a way to earn her own living and contribute to the flower business, I don't believe Shengyi has actually accepted that. She lacks confidence and self-esteem in her own work and ability to be happy, which contributes to her fears on top of all those societal expectations of marriage. It's also glaringly obvious when she goes home and you see the contrast between her and her mother and sister-in-law that this cycle of abuse is also hereditary. Her female family members have all rationalise abuse as the ordinary trials/tribulations of marriage and the only way to cope with the abuse is to be biddable and accepting of it. Shengyi goes back to her abusive husband cause she doesn't know or believe there are better options available to her, not just because she is a working woman, but also because abuse to her perhaps looks like a normal part of marriage.
I think speaking to him directly might have been considered improper - although the little time skip we have also didn't help as we aren't really shown the process of how the mother simply just accepted a change in which daughter her son marries, although it is implied that she likes the first sister
I think LXY knows of course that she can't expect to be treated as a true wife, unfortunately the women around her are of course all up in arms about how she is being treated. Especially the third sister as it's her happiness which has resulted in her sister's unhappiness. LXY herself says she just wants basically an amicable roommate (not a quote but my interpretation of what she says). 😂
The other thing I would say though is that just cause TH decides to clean up the system doesn't mean the version of CP and TMS personalities would survive intact. Actions, events, and memories are what make a person and my example would be that ultimately TMS, like CP, has learned to think, feel and want independence from their creator TH and in choosing rebellion he decides to give CP what she wants - although I'm still not certain about whether he loves CP or is just attached to her because they'd been created together and been at each other sides for so many centuries. I do think part of his obsession is rooted in loneliness, although TMS would surely deny it and claim it's simply because she needs to return to her rightful place in the cosmic order, which is probably why he's so hell bent on getting CP back.
Lol ending is full of loopholes after loopholes but I enjoyed it probably cause I have not read the book. I know once I finish the book, I will definitely be totally disappointed with this drama ending though lol - this always happens after I read the book!
What I disagree is that the women who join the business all being forced to want that independent living as all of them at least joined because they wanted the ability to make their own choices in life and pursue their own passions and interests. Even Shengyi joined the business to survive and gain independence from herself after her divorce too at the start.