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Chapter 20 is a surprising revelation of Jing taking the initiative in intimacy. The strange thing is I remember having read certain sections eg. getting zither lessons from Jing but not their making out part which is the most important, LOL. It must be because the chapter is so long and I did not read it all in 1 sitting so missed some parts. Good for Jing, I was thinking he's so timid. One thing about Jing that really left a big impression on me is the image of him embracing a lifeless XY and willing to die in that burning inferno set by her real father's enemies. Thanks for the chapters and your insights. Also check out Hidden Love which is a very addictive drama that I'm presently watching, even Netflix wants to carry it.

Oh, now it makes sense that it's not a manly thing to say man to man and also culturally.

Good observation about the tie, I totally missed that. He is such a flirt. I still don't understand how the karaoke/bar is a trap, can you explain it? Oh, I read Sher 1264's explanation later on that DJX made up the karaoke where SZ supposedly met her love interest and she fell for it. I'm glad you all have such attention to details.

Well, if I were a man I would make sure to marry the older sister and lord it over the younger brother. LOL.

What? Are you saying in Chinese culture if a man marries someone's younger sister and is older than her brother he gets demoted and has to address the brother as his senior?

DJX wolfed down the hamburger like he wanted to demolish the 1.95m Jiang Ming. LOL. At the wedding banquet for Qian Fei, I don't understand the significance of DJX calling Sang Yan brother and SY getting offended after all SZ calls DJX brother. What's that all about?

Thank you so much!

Have you read the novel? It's very popular and the drama follows it very closely and that's why everybody is savoring it especially with wonderful actors.

SZ is just insecure when it comes to DJX. She is not like that with any other boy.

Where do you watch the manhua? I recall one that sounds like bata but I can't find it so can anyone help?

When I wrote to you it was very late last night and I was very sleepy so my reply was somewhat muddled. You mentioned you ship Jing and that brought his image to my mind and I thought 'he is an endearing guy' and that's what I commented to you. You see in my initial comment at the top I wrote ' XL would be great lover but poor husband material and so XY chose Tu Shan Jing who would give up everything for her'. I imagine XL's lovemaking would be full of passion whereas Jing's love would be quite chaste. You know to be honest I can't remember Jing kissing XY but I certainly remember XL's kiss underwater (even though he's giving her air). XY's love for Jing was a quieter type and she's made it very clear that she's afraid of loneliness so Jing was right for her as he would be by her side all the time. XL would not be able to do that and in the near future would only give her a great deal of pain because he was determined to fight in a war that he could not win. Since XL could not be there for her I'm glad that there's Jing, no fiery love but dependable love.

And when DJX doesn't get it SZ resorts to calling him old man. LOL

Wow! You sure have patience and willpower. I really like the translated book and the unfinished manhua so I can't wait especially with Zhao Lusi as the FL. It's my first time watching Chen Zhe Yuan and he's great as ML.

Still pretty good even though I'm partial to Xiangliu but your points do endear Jing to me.

I bet you all sped through the 9 episodes to this point real fast. If you do a rewatch while you are waiting for new episodes you may find juicy bits that you missed eg. certain meaningful words, facial expressions, etc.

Lushhh, You said it was confirmed that the title Lost you forever was for the male lead, Zhuan Xu. Your statement is too general for me to accept and I wanted more facts so I responded that only the author can confirm it and that others and I would be very interested if you could produce an article or a video of an interview with her. I was asking nicely with all sincerity. You are the one that got so defensive and worked up about my request, like I should just take your word for it. So what if I ship Xiang Liu as the male lead (why do you need to be so condescending about it?) and I told you already that I'm totally fine with others shipping Jing or Zhuan Xu. We are all different and I am sure the author would be perfectly fine with our different preferences for male lead (and not dictate to us that it is wrong if it's not Zhuan Xu) and that's why she wrote them so engagingly. It's you doing the browbeating and ridiculing.

You explained your viewpoint very well.

I was not at all defensive and I quote from a line in my comment to you a few days ago : 'If you see it differently that is fine.' Most of us here can't read Chinese so don't assume that we can. I only read the translated version and all the chapters only have 1 title 'Lost you forever'. If the Chinese version is divided into 3 volumes with a different title each, then it would have been helpful if you had explained this initially instead of assuming that everybody can read Chinese and should know. SMH

Thank you so much for the article, I must say I never viewed Zhuan Xu as the male lead because Xiao Yao was not in love with him. To me he was just family like the Grand Emperor, Yellow Emperor, someone that is kind of in the background so it's a surprise that the author portrayed him as the ML. How can the author create such a fascinating character like Xiang Liu and not make him the ML and not find a way for him and Xiao Yao to be together thus changing the fate that befell her parents? So sad that she just obliterated him at the end.

I'm only talking about 'Lost you forever' the book from my angle so why drag in some arbitrary titles of your own. If you see it differently that is fine. You say it's confirmed it's for the male lead and I ask by whom? Only the author has the authority to confirm that the title is for the male lead so can you produce an article or video of an interview with her? I really would be interested and I'm sure others would be as well.