I struggled with this for many years too, when I was a little younger, I know exactly the comments you're talking…
Thanks for responding. It is alarming that the accusations target "straight cischet women". The fact that they go to such length to single straight women out making it clear that queer women/men, or straight men aren't among the fetishizers is weird. If there's anything wrong with the way gay men are viewed, I feel like it's better to address the root cause of the problem, especially the whole nonsense stereotypical BL bed position thing. I'm sure most straight women knew nothing about gays and other members of the community until BL, especially me who never had anyone like that around me, even up until now. So any wrong idea or stereotype people might have is due to being fed by BL. They were taught those ideas by early BLs of around 2016 to atleast 2021. The subtitle hints, dressing, wifey name calling etc. They learnt and absorbed everything. The damage has been done and the way forward will be to subtly change that mentality and way of thinking by producing better BLs which hint less on those stereotypes that are not needed or relevant to the storyline. But going straight and attacking "straight women", generalising everyone and making them feel like they are weird is just wrong. Some even said "it's bad enough that those straight women ship gay guys, yet they also ship themselves with gay characters, as if straight characters and men are not enough for them". I was flabbergasted because before sexual or gender identity, we are humans and there's always gonna be someone who likes or admires us for our looks, intellect etc.
OK, I can't speak for all gay men but I don't give a damn about women "fetishizing" gay relationships - I don't…
The reason why it really bothered me is because these comments were made by the gay guys in the BL community. It made me wonder if I'm a pervert for not being repulsed by gay content and I wonder if I was ignoring an actual concern of real people in the BL community. Thank you for responding.
There is something I'd really like an input on from everyone. It's been troubling me for a while and since this is the first time I'm in a large BL discussion board like this, I'll be happy to know what you'll think. Please, let's be civil while we talk about this and not fight. Please note, I'm not sure if this is the right place to bring this up but I have to try. So ever since I started BL earlier this year, in some comment sections like Youtube, twitter and IG, I've been seeing a lot of comments accusing straight women of fetisizing again by watching BLs, which makes me uncomfortable (but I chose to ignore as i don't know if there is anything going on) because I thought the main objective of novels, comics and movies/dramas is entertainment, which I would think people are allowed to view any content they want as long as they're adults. I didn't realize certain contents like series/movies which contain gay contents are gender based or we need to have a certain sexual orientation before seeing them? Secondly, characters on screen are fictional, so shipping characters on screen should be fine as long as it's on screen? But bringing it to real life and real people would be a different ball game. Thirdly, I believe anyone is capable of fetisizing anyone regardless of gender or sexual identity. Correct me if I'm wrong. So, always seeing comments like "I'm sick of seeing straight cischet women fetishizing gay me from BLs" is really weird because it feels like "lumping all straight women who watches BLs together and tagging them fetishizers". On that note, if it's indeed wrong for a straight woman to watch any gay content, could there be any way this could be appropriately passed around?
P.S: If you think it's inappropriate to talk about this here, please let me know.. I'll delete this comment. Thanks.
Oh I bet it's even messier. More anxiety lol. And yet I'm still looking forward to it. Maybe I'm a masochist.
Lol. Me too. I'm discovering new things about myself. Apparently, I love the mess, chaos, anxiety and frustration 😀🤣. You and I are probably gonna finally fight this time.
I have flashbacks from how intense the comments section was a few episodes ago and I'm very happy we can just…
I'm so waiting for thr next GMMTV series "Playboy". It's gonna be worse. I can forsee some people having an apoplexy already😅. I'll try to protect my heart in advance
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It is alarming that the accusations target "straight cischet women". The fact that they go to such length to single straight women out making it clear that queer women/men, or straight men aren't among the fetishizers is weird.
If there's anything wrong with the way gay men are viewed, I feel like it's better to address the root cause of the problem, especially the whole nonsense stereotypical BL bed position thing. I'm sure most straight women knew nothing about gays and other members of the community until BL, especially me who never had anyone like that around me, even up until now. So any wrong idea or stereotype people might have is due to being fed by BL. They were taught those ideas by early BLs of around 2016 to atleast 2021. The subtitle hints, dressing, wifey name calling etc. They learnt and absorbed everything. The damage has been done and the way forward will be to subtly change that mentality and way of thinking by producing better BLs which hint less on those stereotypes that are not needed or relevant to the storyline. But going straight and attacking "straight women", generalising everyone and making them feel like they are weird is just wrong.
Some even said "it's bad enough that those straight women ship gay guys, yet they also ship themselves with gay characters, as if straight characters and men are not enough for them".
I was flabbergasted because before sexual or gender identity, we are humans and there's always gonna be someone who likes or admires us for our looks, intellect etc.
Thank you for responding.
Please, let's be civil while we talk about this and not fight.
Please note, I'm not sure if this is the right place to bring this up but I have to try.
So ever since I started BL earlier this year, in some comment sections like Youtube, twitter and IG, I've been seeing a lot of comments accusing straight women of fetisizing again by watching BLs, which makes me uncomfortable (but I chose to ignore as i don't know if there is anything going on) because I thought the main objective of novels, comics and movies/dramas is entertainment, which I would think people are allowed to view any content they want as long as they're adults. I didn't realize certain contents like series/movies which contain gay contents are gender based or we need to have a certain sexual orientation before seeing them? Secondly, characters on screen are fictional, so shipping characters on screen should be fine as long as it's on screen? But bringing it to real life and real people would be a different ball game. Thirdly, I believe anyone is capable of fetisizing anyone regardless of gender or sexual identity. Correct me if I'm wrong.
So, always seeing comments like "I'm sick of seeing straight cischet women fetishizing gay me from BLs" is really weird because it feels like "lumping all straight women who watches BLs together and tagging them fetishizers".
On that note, if it's indeed wrong for a straight woman to watch any gay content, could there be any way this could be appropriately passed around?
P.S: If you think it's inappropriate to talk about this here, please let me know.. I'll delete this comment. Thanks.
I wanna see it too😅😂
When you come back, we'll plan another vacation for next year😀
I hope it'll will be interesting
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