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I agree with you to an extent, but pointing out Tharntype which you are not wrong about, but just concluding that because say I like TT for example, it means I don't care that the character was SA'd. That is in no way true. I like TT because there was redemption and growth for that character who did it. I liked that he knew what he did wrong and he knows it's unaccepted. Secondly, I liked the interaction between the 2 later in the series. TT was my very first BL and my first experience of watching a romance between 2 males and those leads will always have a special place in my heart but other than TT, I literally cannot accept any other series like that. Yes, call me a hypocrite.

Now coming to your statement here "But if it happens in a straight couple they don't like it. That's really dehumanizing// it would interest you to know that even in straight romance novels, most don't care either. I know this because I literally have been reading straight romance novels for more than 15yrs, and out of those years, I dived into straight Asian Romance novels around 2014 and it's been 8yrs and most of readers love it because they say it's just fiction. Mind you, it's not just the straight women. For years, I repeatedly reported those books heavy on SA and rape, but the site regulators never did anything about it. I sent various emails to them to atleast tell the authors to either put a trigger warning somewhere on the front page or categorise them as dark romances, so that those who care will be informed. I was ignored. I'm referring to straight romance translated mostly from Chinese novels. For a reader like me, it hurt cos I had to stopped reading because they triggered me and I was scared of stumbling on one unknowingly. The worse is that, somehow the women always magically falls in love with those men who rapes them as long as they are rich, tall and handosme but it's a different ball game if the men are middle aged with the sterotypical "pot belly". I can't stand SA cos Yes, I'm also a victim of SA repeatedly, so don't castigate me on liking TT just cos you saw that on my profile. Liking it doesn't mean I accept SA or it automatically makes me a fetishizer.

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Ok.

Is that in the preview for ep 11?

A teaser for a new BL

https://youtu.be/iG4hyuuIsTs?feature=shared

Lol. Exactly. Women love romance plain and simple.

Policing what people watch is like telling them they are being abnormal and finding delight in abnormal things.
We are adult. It's time we let each other live and breathe without dictating every move or boxing people up.

Thanks for responding.

I agree with you.
I feel like if people don't have a problem with straight romance and those who watches them, then why have a problem with gay content? As far as I'm concern, gay content is normal, just like straight content, so I just enjoy the storyline and simp on the actors. There's nothing wrong with that.

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Sometimes, we don't have a particular reason for liking someone. We just like them.
In the case of Top, he liked the challenge of going after an unexplored territory and he liked the chase.
Mew liked the emotions Top stirred in him.. In his words "he's the only one who've made him feel something ".

I agree with you. Thanks for responding

This really makes sense. Thanks

Thanks alot. 😊

Seeing all these comments made me feel better. I was close to deleting everything relating to BL, but decided to post this as a last resort, as those comments were sending me into depression.
I am happy to find somewhere I feel comfortable.
Thanks to everyone for responding.

Thanks for responding. I always like your grammar. ☺️

Thanks for responding.
It is alarming that the accusations target "straight cischet women". The fact that they go to such length to single straight women out making it clear that queer women/men, or straight men aren't among the fetishizers is weird.
If there's anything wrong with the way gay men are viewed, I feel like it's better to address the root cause of the problem, especially the whole nonsense stereotypical BL bed position thing. I'm sure most straight women knew nothing about gays and other members of the community until BL, especially me who never had anyone like that around me, even up until now. So any wrong idea or stereotype people might have is due to being fed by BL. They were taught those ideas by early BLs of around 2016 to atleast 2021. The subtitle hints, dressing, wifey name calling etc. They learnt and absorbed everything. The damage has been done and the way forward will be to subtly change that mentality and way of thinking by producing better BLs which hint less on those stereotypes that are not needed or relevant to the storyline. But going straight and attacking "straight women", generalising everyone and making them feel like they are weird is just wrong.
Some even said "it's bad enough that those straight women ship gay guys, yet they also ship themselves with gay characters, as if straight characters and men are not enough for them".
I was flabbergasted because before sexual or gender identity, we are humans and there's always gonna be someone who likes or admires us for our looks, intellect etc.

I hope I can reset my mentality to this!

Thanks for responding.

Thanks.

The reason why it really bothered me is because these comments were made by the gay guys in the BL community. It made me wonder if I'm a pervert for not being repulsed by gay content and I wonder if I was ignoring an actual concern of real people in the BL community.
Thank you for responding.

There is something I'd really like an input on from everyone. It's been troubling me for a while and since this is the first time I'm in a large BL discussion board like this, I'll be happy to know what you'll think.
Please, let's be civil while we talk about this and not fight.
Please note, I'm not sure if this is the right place to bring this up but I have to try.
So ever since I started BL earlier this year, in some comment sections like Youtube, twitter and IG, I've been seeing a lot of comments accusing straight women of fetisizing again by watching BLs, which makes me uncomfortable (but I chose to ignore as i don't know if there is anything going on) because I thought the main objective of novels, comics and movies/dramas is entertainment, which I would think people are allowed to view any content they want as long as they're adults. I didn't realize certain contents like series/movies which contain gay contents are gender based or we need to have a certain sexual orientation before seeing them? Secondly, characters on screen are fictional, so shipping characters on screen should be fine as long as it's on screen? But bringing it to real life and real people would be a different ball game. Thirdly, I believe anyone is capable of fetisizing anyone regardless of gender or sexual identity. Correct me if I'm wrong.
So, always seeing comments like "I'm sick of seeing straight cischet women fetishizing gay me from BLs" is really weird because it feels like "lumping all straight women who watches BLs together and tagging them fetishizers".
On that note, if it's indeed wrong for a straight woman to watch any gay content, could there be any way this could be appropriately passed around?

P.S: If you think it's inappropriate to talk about this here, please let me know.. I'll delete this comment. Thanks.

More specifically in a Thai BL.
I wanna see it too😅😂