hmm good question... these guys have become anti F4 while Talay was recruiting them. Plus, Talay's never been…
The fact that he knows how red card work (and he did a whole research for it)..he must've knows those people are part of the bullying...then again he only want to get his revenge on thyme not the whole f4, he prob doesnt care about that
They usually all lie to the fml first pretending she and the ml are getting close.Also in jpn ver she also strip…
Lmao, i think i skip the fiance part in meteor garden because it was taking too long and i just want to see lovey dovey scene 😅. I meant..lita is wild tho, she doesnt hesitate to kiss thyme in school and literally will do anything for thyme to like her eventho he treat her like shit (as does other lita). Stripping is degrading ig, but given her personality and charachterization i always tho thats just fitting (considering she also lied to make the fml jealous and hurt)
It would be fine if the show stayed just as a stupid rom com without trying to be serious so desperately and trying…
But it is addressing it. Just not in the way u want. Even irl bullies rarely went to jail, even the one from poor background. U think putting thyme in jail isnt going to solve or even address the issue too since the whole school is literally part of the system and the conglomerate too.
Those people that comment below...what are u guys even expecting f4 to turn? Thyme is the ml. If u expect him to go to jail just stop watching lmao. Thyme is already doing things none other f4 ml did in prev version and thats as far as we will prob get, because guess what? F4 isnt about bully going to jail. And complaining in one post is enough, wtf are u making multiple comment about it?Just stop watching . F4 is a rom com, you are not going to see the ml who was a bully going to jail. If u expect that, then better stop watching
I do feel for Gorya. The amount of bullying she has to endure as a result of F4's dark influences (not to mention…
He said that only after gorya multiple times not saying anything and choosing to believe talay's act and not let him explain anythinb. He confront talay when he is alone without gorya first and questioning his motives. He only ask gorya what she is doing and why she wear that outfit before talay out of nowhere being overly touchy with gorya.
If i get dumped out of nowhere when i tho my relationship is doing good, then i saw my ex being touchy2 with other people only a few days later i will also question things(the touchy part is talay's fault and we know why he did that, but it make sense that thyme is jealous)
Author always wanted fl to end up with ml lead she even mentioned that her staff was divided between team tuskishi(thyme)…
I meant...story wise...if makino was really originally ended up with rui....what even is the plot? They are already kind to each other, no family drama, no unnecessary engagement for power, most people would prob wont see any charachter development (eventho rui is also part of the bully gang, he is the "nice" one) already, and there wont be any push and pull flirty chaotic stuff, they would just be sweet cute problem free all the time. The only problem would be sizuka.
Dont get me wrong, irl that is preferable...but for a story? Nah.
Also, the anime aired in 1996 while the manga finished in 2004. In the meantime we already have HYD movie and og meteor garden, where rui is the sml in both and the anime
I do feel for Gorya. The amount of bullying she has to endure as a result of F4's dark influences (not to mention…
I meant, its not even having a relationship with thyme tho. She could trust him a little even as a friend, or friend of a friend (as lita's or ren's friend). But she just..isnt. or actively refuse to trust him. Where she never have a problem trusting everyone else including f4 member who actively participated in the red card system eventho thyme created it. Like, she couldnt even bother giving him any benefit of the doubt when she spend the most time with thyme and never in that time he lied to her
Nah, the only reason thyme even act angry when he sees gorya and talay is only after he saw talay being overly…
That is indeed the question isnt it?She even ask talay why would he need to know about f4, her confusion prob about why talay dislike the rich so much, since she is also the same minus all the negativity. But then she was so gullible.
Literally everyone in that school questioning who he was after hearing his name or seeing his face. Except for gorya (even ren who never give a shit about other people except his friend, ok maybe he give a shit because it concern gorya but he still spend 70% oh his screentime this ep being suspicious of talay after seeing him in library with gorya. And he wasnt even there when Hana happened).
Nah, the only reason thyme even act angry when he sees gorya and talay is only after he saw talay being overly…
But he did try, he prob still hung up on his "break up" with gorya and ask lita out without thinking. But after gorya told him to stay away again he did try. He finally throw gorya's cookie, accepting lita sweet gesture and not being harsh on her on that prom. He prob still hasnt accept the fact that he and gorya arent a thing anymore (thats why he is still very cold to lita) and then suddenly saw some unknown guy (who even ren feel very suspicious, and we know he usually couldnt careless about anyone) that is being overly touchy with his "ex" a few days after being dumped(either he is just feeling very suspicious about his intention since he literally experience Hana case, or he tho that the guy is prob the real reason they "broke up"). He finally gave up because it seems like gorya will always see him as his old self tho (which is i think is also the time gorya really gave up because she still look hopeful before he met thyme at the mall)
I think people get the wrong impression when people said she need to have a little faith in thyme. She hasnt fully trusted him thats fine. Whats annoying is the fact that she never let thyme explain anything and just blindly trust the other person.
Like, if she at least heard what thyme said then compare that to what happened (or better yet also ask the other party for an explanation) it wont feel like there is no progress.
Like, it doesnt even feel like she doesnt fully trust thyme, it just feels like she doesnt trust him at all (despite the fact that her most trusted person -ren- is vouching for thyme) "Being cautious because thyme has anger management issue" what do you mean??? The only reason thyme even went to that point is simply because they dont communicate.
Edit: Gorya has trust issue..there could be 10 reasons why, but she still has it. The same way thyme was a bully and clearly has anger management issue. Again, there could be endless reason why but its still his issue. And while we could see bit by bit change and development from thyme(altho not enough yet to redeem himself for some people, clearly his issue is more serious) you just dont feel the same about gorya. Like, that is prob the only weakness she had (well, at least imo) but you dont see any progress at all despite the fact that she already experience things that shouldve give her some lesson regarding that.
I actually don't even care if she trusts thyme or not. No need to trust him. Even I was the one who said that…
Mira, lita and tia all are related to f4 and well known people unlike hana and talay who literally appear out of nowhere. There is literally no one that can vouch for their charachter unlike the one you list tho.
So… I just want to defend Gorya, Lita, and Talay.For Gorya, I see alot of people complains she trust Talay too…
Nah, the only reason thyme even act angry when he sees gorya and talay is only after he saw talay being overly touchy with gorya. Before that he just ask usual stuff to gorya.
How ould gorya trust talay so easily? the guy came out of nowhere, said some stuff that is suspicious (even to gorya, sometimes her expression shows so much confusion when talay said things), The Hana case and Tesla case literally just happen where it shows she was trusting the wrong person twice already (i meant, thyme is an asshole but he wasnt a liar).
I dont hate lita so no comment about that (unless its true that she already know about thymegorya for quite a time)
Nah, Talay is shit. He could get his revenge without involving gorya, thats the only way i can justify his action.
Thyme is the one getting dumped. Obviously he wont move on that easily. Everyone feeling hurt over gorya seeing thymelita kiss when she is the one cutting him off but thyme being jealous is questionable? What? Im not really sure what u watch, but thyme is like 90% of the time the one fighting for that relationship to become real.
she just saw him pushed talay for no reason stalk them and thyme literally called her EASY, i would be angry too.
Thyme call her easy after gorya get angry tho eventho thyme asking her multiple time who talay is and gorya doesnt want to explain. Its part of talay's fault too because he became unnecessarily touchy with gorya when thyme was there when he usually keep his distance before (which make sense because he prob did it on purpose).
Thyme is the one being dumped before, for a reason that prob make no sense to him. Seeing gorya went out with unknown male so soon after prob make him jealous but it make sense too that he would be suspicious of who talay is, which is why he confront talay when gorya isnt there(it make sense for thyme to be suspicious too since hana happened...ren also felt suspicious, literally half his screentime in ep 10 is him being suspicious minus the aggressivenes because he didnt get dumped like thyme so there is no added emotion involve)
Literally everyone is suspicious towards talay (including the 3 mean girl), but only thyme react differently because there are 2 probability of who talay is 1. Someone with ill intention towards gorya 2. Have any involvement with their "break up"
I meant..lita is wild tho, she doesnt hesitate to kiss thyme in school and literally will do anything for thyme to like her eventho he treat her like shit (as does other lita). Stripping is degrading ig, but given her personality and charachterization i always tho thats just fitting (considering she also lied to make the fml jealous and hurt)
Also in jpn ver she also strip to make domyouji stay with her, prob do the same here
U think putting thyme in jail isnt going to solve or even address the issue too since the whole school is literally part of the system and the conglomerate too.
F4 is a rom com, you are not going to see the ml who was a bully going to jail. If u expect that, then better stop watching
If i get dumped out of nowhere when i tho my relationship is doing good, then i saw my ex being touchy2 with other people only a few days later i will also question things(the touchy part is talay's fault and we know why he did that, but it make sense that thyme is jealous)
Dont get me wrong, irl that is preferable...but for a story? Nah.
Also, the anime aired in 1996 while the manga finished in 2004. In the meantime we already have HYD movie and og meteor garden, where rui is the sml in both and the anime
I actually hope he is really smart and that glasses arent just decoration 😩
Literally everyone in that school questioning who he was after hearing his name or seeing his face. Except for gorya (even ren who never give a shit about other people except his friend, ok maybe he give a shit because it concern gorya but he still spend 70% oh his screentime this ep being suspicious of talay after seeing him in library with gorya. And he wasnt even there when Hana happened).
He prob still hasnt accept the fact that he and gorya arent a thing anymore (thats why he is still very cold to lita) and then suddenly saw some unknown guy (who even ren feel very suspicious, and we know he usually couldnt careless about anyone) that is being overly touchy with his "ex" a few days after being dumped(either he is just feeling very suspicious about his intention since he literally experience Hana case, or he tho that the guy is prob the real reason they "broke up").
He finally gave up because it seems like gorya will always see him as his old self tho (which is i think is also the time gorya really gave up because she still look hopeful before he met thyme at the mall)
Like, if she at least heard what thyme said then compare that to what happened (or better yet also ask the other party for an explanation) it wont feel like there is no progress.
Like, it doesnt even feel like she doesnt fully trust thyme, it just feels like she doesnt trust him at all (despite the fact that her most trusted person -ren- is vouching for thyme) "Being cautious because thyme has anger management issue" what do you mean??? The only reason thyme even went to that point is simply because they dont communicate.
Edit:
Gorya has trust issue..there could be 10 reasons why, but she still has it. The same way thyme was a bully and clearly has anger management issue. Again, there could be endless reason why but its still his issue. And while we could see bit by bit change and development from thyme(altho not enough yet to redeem himself for some people, clearly his issue is more serious) you just dont feel the same about gorya. Like, that is prob the only weakness she had (well, at least imo) but you dont see any progress at all despite the fact that she already experience things that shouldve give her some lesson regarding that.
How ould gorya trust talay so easily? the guy came out of nowhere, said some stuff that is suspicious (even to gorya, sometimes her expression shows so much confusion when talay said things), The Hana case and Tesla case literally just happen where it shows she was trusting the wrong person twice already (i meant, thyme is an asshole but he wasnt a liar).
I dont hate lita so no comment about that (unless its true that she already know about thymegorya for quite a time)
Nah, Talay is shit. He could get his revenge without involving gorya, thats the only way i can justify his action.
Thyme is the one getting dumped. Obviously he wont move on that easily. Everyone feeling hurt over gorya seeing thymelita kiss when she is the one cutting him off but thyme being jealous is questionable? What? Im not really sure what u watch, but thyme is like 90% of the time the one fighting for that relationship to become real.
Its part of talay's fault too because he became unnecessarily touchy with gorya when thyme was there when he usually keep his distance before (which make sense because he prob did it on purpose).
Thyme is the one being dumped before, for a reason that prob make no sense to him. Seeing gorya went out with unknown male so soon after prob make him jealous but it make sense too that he would be suspicious of who talay is, which is why he confront talay when gorya isnt there(it make sense for thyme to be suspicious too since hana happened...ren also felt suspicious, literally half his screentime in ep 10 is him being suspicious minus the aggressivenes because he didnt get dumped like thyme so there is no added emotion involve)
Literally everyone is suspicious towards talay (including the 3 mean girl), but only thyme react differently because there are 2 probability of who talay is
1. Someone with ill intention towards gorya
2. Have any involvement with their "break up"