Although I was angry at Ji Woo for the majority of the season, I also understood where he was coming from. Seo…
And their main issues still exist.... SJ schedule depend of 100 other people not just him. He can't say to movie director and 50+ people working at the set - You know i need to go home because i want to eat dinner with my BF. His schedule is crazy but he still did the best he could too see JW. But now he have days to go see him ( 4 hour drive - one way) while being afraid that if JW feel lonely again he would pack his bag again. Can you imagine under how much pressure he would operate? There was no grow - rewatch 1 ep. after JW meet SJ after that year 'of grow" - he is pushing all the blame on SJ Look at it for a moment from SJ perspective, JW didn't learn his lesson, he didn't learn to communicate better, seeked help etc. to help him make better decision when he will find himself in bad head-space again. Because of it is only a matter of time before he ghost SJ again.
"Give-Receive" relationship work if person giving switch from time to time. It's not always equal exchange but…
Re - watch this scene it goes like this "If you keep pushing me like this, I can't go after you nonstop. Like you did for me." "I am begging you, can you give me a hug?" "you said if it was tough you come to me." Hug that show that SJ is ready to start over. "Sorry I was coward."
Did you notice something? In this scene it was all about JW needs, JW apology is not about feeling bad about what he done to SJ or wanting to make it up to him but about HIS NEED of wanting to go back together and having smoother start. He is white washing himself and making excuses. You don't hear from him - I am sorry that I treated you liked this. I am sorry that i used your own insecurities to attack you. Can you forgive me?
Mostly agree, the ending didn't feel deserved in any way to me too. Ji Woo did not show any grow, regret or learned…
There is so many blanks in the script that it can any way... i am not sure if even screenwriter knew what he wanted to convey. He made JW so unlikable but didn't give him any reason for it or redemption arc. It was like he was trying to make audience not like him.
I am satisfied with the ending , I know people think Kang Seo Joon has forgiven Ji Woo quickly and I do and still…
"Give-Receive" relationship work if person giving switch from time to time. It's not always equal exchange but come on. What JW give? He made SJ stress, insulted and hurt him , SJ promised to make more time for JW althought he was already doing that, promised to speak with the rest less, etc.
But what JW did? When SJ asked “why did we break up” JW answer: “I don’t remember”
After all the shit he took out on SJ do you really think he felt bad about it? He didn't seek help, he didn't learn to speak about his problems, he didn't apologize - but he felt comfortable hurting another person ( with premeditation) because he was in bad head space.
Mostly agree, the ending didn't feel deserved in any way to me too. Ji Woo did not show any grow, regret or learned…
Learn from previous mistakes - i really don't think he learned anything. It was almost like Ji Woo was okay breaking with JS on his own terms but in the moment JS decided on it - it was a big no no. Like a child with toy - he is not playing with it but in moment someone else want it he suddenly need it. It was like JW needed to know JS loved him and was not over him. Just like spare tire ready. I think i would be less negative about it if i saw in some scenes that JW really cared about JS. As it stand JS give so much but JW didn't try to stop it or give anything back. Like parasite.
Mostly agree, the ending didn't feel deserved in any way to me too. Ji Woo did not show any grow, regret or learned…
Yes it was painful to watch - SJ is under so much pressure that i wonder how long it will take him to break? Would JW even care? He the one who placed it on him in the first place.
Mostly agree, the ending didn't feel deserved in any way to me too. Ji Woo did not show any grow, regret or learned…
Trust is important but i think i understand Seo Joon - he was desperate to be happy and loved again so was willing to make sacrifices to make his relationship work. But Ji Woo?? I don't think he realizes or care how much he hurt Seo Joo. “Why did we break up” JW: “I don’t remember Show us he didn't learn that communication is important and just placed additional demands on SJ.
I was wery much on board with this all the way up to ep 6. I liked that they were exploring their insecurities,…
Mostly agree, the ending didn't feel deserved in any way to me too. Ji Woo did not show any grow, regret or learned any lesson. It was all about him and his own issues. Since when relationship is only about one person happiness? Even the ending with two day to meet - It was all about Ji Woo when we saw thought Seo Joon eyes how busy his schedule is and how much he tried to steal time between jobs just to be with Ji Woo a little longer. Now he need to balance his crazy work schedule that is depending on 100 other people to make time for Ji Woo while making sure that Ji Woo not feel "lonely" again and pack his bags...
did you even read any of those who are not satisfied with this drama?? all the prise come from people who love…
Abusive ones... treating victim like punching bag with words - mental abuse. Making him think he did something wrong and never explain yourself. Repeat till victim mental state become worse. Then when victim is ready to walk out, abuser appear again agreeing to work out their issues how long victim make some changes while abuser don't give even an inch. Sound familiar?
their chemistry!!!!! It really saved it for me. I understand what they were trying to do with a realistic and…
Heartbreak is good word. It should really end with them going separate way because their going back together didn't feel geniue. Ji Woon can be so ruthless, hateful and cold to person he "supposedly" love when Seo Joon did nothing wrong.. Seo Joon was treated like punching bag but people still feel bad forJi Woon because of sad backstory? Since when sad past is good enough reason to hurt innocent people?
Can someone tell me why Ji woo was incredibly rude/cold and dismissive ( in better word cruel ) of Seojoon for…
Because its a mess and don't make much sense. Believe me since I finished watching it i tried to see it from different perspectives and come to conclusion - it's a social experiment - lets see how many fans will realize how bad is it - when we will add some hot kisses and happy ending. Let's add some sad backstory to the character to see if fans will forgive all the shitty things he did.
People who only expected to see fluff are the ones that got disappointed but those of us are here for the storytelling…
Not really i didn't like it because it messy script that doesn't make much sense. If it was new show and not To my star maybe I would be able to stomach it better. Han Ji Woo - have a different personality compared to season 1 - to the point that i wondered if they wanted to introduce a split personality disorder. But no.. he was just " lonely " which is explanation enough for all toxic shit he did. As well as his tormented of Seo Joon. Some watchers try to explain it as - he was depressed we should feel bad for him. Convitly forgetting that he ghosted Seo Joon for a year and his behavior when they meet after all this time. It's no longer an emotional response after a year time it is premeditation. Even if you really stick to his "depressed" card he never apologized, get treated or seek help - meaning he will relapse again and Seo Joon will get tournament once again. The question is how much Seo Joon can take of it before he break himself?
His schedule is crazy but he still did the best he could too see JW. But now he have days to go see him ( 4 hour drive - one way) while being afraid that if JW feel lonely again he would pack his bag again. Can you imagine under how much pressure he would operate?
There was no grow - rewatch 1 ep. after JW meet SJ after that year 'of grow" - he is pushing all the blame on SJ
Look at it for a moment from SJ perspective, JW didn't learn his lesson, he didn't learn to communicate better, seeked help etc. to help him make better decision when he will find himself in bad head-space again.
Because of it is only a matter of time before he ghost SJ again.
"If you keep pushing me like this, I can't go after you nonstop. Like you did for me."
"I am begging you, can you give me a hug?"
"you said if it was tough you come to me."
Hug that show that SJ is ready to start over.
"Sorry I was coward."
Did you notice something?
In this scene it was all about JW needs, JW apology is not about feeling bad about what he done to SJ or wanting to make it up to him but about HIS NEED of wanting to go back together and having smoother start. He is white washing himself and making excuses. You don't hear from him - I am sorry that I treated you liked this. I am sorry that i used your own insecurities to attack you. Can you forgive me?
It was like he was trying to make audience not like him.
He made SJ stress, insulted and hurt him , SJ promised to make more time for JW althought he was already doing that, promised to speak with the rest less, etc.
But what JW did? When SJ asked “why did we break up”
JW answer: “I don’t remember”
After all the shit he took out on SJ do you really think he felt bad about it? He didn't seek help, he didn't learn to speak about his problems, he didn't apologize - but he felt comfortable hurting another person ( with premeditation) because he was in bad head space.
Please let's not act like is normal
It was almost like Ji Woo was okay breaking with JS on his own terms but in the moment JS decided on it - it was a big no no. Like a child with toy - he is not playing with it but in moment someone else want it he suddenly need it. It was like JW needed to know JS loved him and was not over him. Just like spare tire ready.
I think i would be less negative about it if i saw in some scenes that JW really cared about JS. As it stand JS give so much but JW didn't try to stop it or give anything back.
Like parasite.
But Ji Woo?? I don't think he realizes or care how much he hurt Seo Joo.
“Why did we break up”
JW: “I don’t remember
Show us he didn't learn that communication is important and just placed additional demands on SJ.
Ji Woo did not show any grow, regret or learned any lesson. It was all about him and his own issues.
Since when relationship is only about one person happiness?
Even the ending with two day to meet - It was all about Ji Woo when we saw thought Seo Joon eyes how busy his schedule is and how much he tried to steal time between jobs just to be with Ji Woo a little longer.
Now he need to balance his crazy work schedule that is depending on 100 other people to make time for Ji Woo while making sure that Ji Woo not feel "lonely" again and pack his bags...
Sound familiar?
Ji Woon can be so ruthless, hateful and cold to person he "supposedly" love when Seo Joon did nothing wrong..
Seo Joon was treated like punching bag but people still feel bad forJi Woon because of sad backstory? Since when sad past is good enough reason to hurt innocent people?
Let's add some sad backstory to the character to see if fans will forgive all the shitty things he did.
Han Ji Woo - have a different personality compared to season 1 - to the point that i wondered if they wanted to introduce a split personality disorder.
But no.. he was just " lonely " which is explanation enough for all toxic shit he did. As well as his tormented of Seo Joon. Some watchers try to explain it as - he was depressed we should feel bad for him. Convitly forgetting that he ghosted Seo Joon for a year and his behavior when they meet after all this time. It's no longer an emotional response after a year time it is premeditation. Even if you really stick to his "depressed" card he never apologized, get treated or seek help - meaning he will relapse again and Seo Joon will get tournament once again.
The question is how much Seo Joon can take of it before he break himself?