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Seriously? Now, you believe these photos who have not been confirmed genuine yet (which by the way the photo of 'husband' and KSR seems AI-generated), but you do not believe the photos presented by KSR's side even though they are already confirmed real. Lol.

Has this 'husband' showed up yet? The photos of him and KSR together in NY seem like AI-generated.

Yup, it's everywhere right now, as expected. But this is not yet over and his testimony is not that convincing to many, except to loyalists who will surely just believe it.

I am also trying to build a timeline myself. This is just so intriguing.
Also, the photo the ex-bf released does not even show KSR's face.

True. Also, this should not be surprising. We knew people would come out to defend KSH. Still, why is this ex-bf speaking just now? If his claims were true, he must have been the only one KSR trusted, yet he's just speaking now.
He even claimed that he knew Sae Ron better than anyone, yet he's only coming out now!
I don't believe this story tbh.

Thanks a lot.

I can't read Korean. Those images of text messages I can't translate. I was only able to read the translated texts in the news article. I'd appreciate if you could give the translation of the exact text messages. Still figuring the timeline, it just seems weird right now.

I see. So the 'husband' never came to Korea and be with KSR. This is just ridiculous. A controlling man wouldn't allow KSR to go to without him for such a long period of time. This is so not true!

I also have more reasons to believe this is a lie but please correct me if you have time.

I can't read Korean so I used autotranslate.
Still, I see those loopholes in his testimony.

Question: Was the 'husband' living in New York all that time? I did not read in his testimony that he had seen the husband even when he accompanied KSR home. If the husband was so controlling, he would have at least appeared and talked to ex-bf at the hospital or at home when ex-bf accompanied KSR home.

Thanks so much.

Question: How's the acting here?
I think the premise is intriguing enough and I like comedy, but I don’t want to sit through cringe-worthy acting. Before I dive in, I want to check in with those who have already started watching regarding the quality of the acting in general. Thanks.

This is such an easy watch. It's not groundbreaking but it's kinda refreshing. I don't understand why it's not gaining enough traction from viewers. It's a chill series.

I stated my point and I know you get it. If you can't accept it or respect, at least don't go on skewing and butchering my statement, just to suit your own understanding and stand on this.

You accuse us of being quick to judge and call us hypocrites, but you, yourself are judging us many things.

Now, let's stop this hypocrisy and cyberbullying bullshit you are crying foul!

If you'll excuse me, I got somewhere to be than read unnecessary ramblings.

You're right. It seems that some people don't really understand it nor care to understand yet they speak their intellectual views about it and about the victim and her family. They are quick to speak in support of the alleged perpetrator and demand absolute evidence but fail to speak in support of the victim who may not be able to produce such type of evidence because grooming is usually done in secrecy and with so much manipulation, yet they go on claiming they are just being objective and neutral. If that is not hypocrisy - which they have been lecturing us about - then I don't know what is.

Thank you for sharing. It's another good reason not to be silent about this. Wishing you well.

My point is simple and I think you already get it. You're just adding more words to what I said and even jumbling my words. I am sorry, I got to move on from this. If your stance is to wait in silence until you're absolutely sure, then do so. I choose to speak out.
I also never claimed that silence means admission of guilt. I wonder why you think I was claiming something like that. You're quick on making conclusion like that but you criticize others for doing the same. Isn't that a very example of hypocrisy you were talking about?

I am just asking you to check it out because it seems that you're mistaking the things happening in Goblin to be grooming. Sorry, I can't do the research and explaining for you rn. You google it yourself.

Perhaps you should check first what grooming is. There is no such thing in Goblin.

I am saying the probability of him lying again now is higher than the probability of him not lying again. The opposite of his lie is that he committed it. I am not saying he certainly did it. If you don't still recognize the difference, then I can't do anything about that. We're just going in circles because you're adding words to what I said and even jumbling them.
Like I said, I have more reasons to believe he's guilty than reasons to believe he's not.

Let me add one more thing:
You seem traumatized by what happened to LSK. Although I have no enough knowledge of his case, I can only assume based on your sentiment that the hate train was so unbearable LSK committed suicide.
Ideally, this should stop. But again, let's face reality here -- it can't be controlled. We can only discuss and fight and some of us may be encroaching the grey areas, but it's a trade-off for what is more important. You can criticize us and remind us, but please be also mindful of the hypocrisy judgement.
Besides, KSH could have just easily quashed this hate train if he had showed up and explained everything, but instead he just spewed lies and is even hiding.

Well then I am using both deductive and inductive reasoning.
I am not claiming that because he lied, we can clearly say that he's lying again now. I am saying that there is a high probability he's lying again and that he's actually guilty. I hope you recognize the difference.

Proof by contradiction applies whenever there are two opposing assertions. Apparently we can apply this to lying. Let's take your example, if the giver lied that he had no present because he wanted to surprise you, wouldn't you eventually realize that the opposite was true.
The concept is pretty simple but I guess I know where I got you confused, so let me share with you my train of thoughts:

He said he never dated her but it was proven false, so the opposite was true. He said he never visited her house but it was proven false, opposite was true. Isn't it just reasonable to think that there is a high probability that what he's claiming now is false? You could argue that the burden of proof is on KSR's side in a legal standpoint, but even lawyers and detectives would question his intention for lying and they would even presume he's guilty. He should then produce evidence of his innocence - again proof by contradiction. Frankly, even you would not trust a proven liar and you would even question his innocence. For me, it's that simple.

Just to be clear, I never said that using proof of contradiction, we can, without a doubt, conclude he is a pedophile. I am just using it as a tool to judge the credibility of KSH and his claims.

I know you're waiting for that conclusive direct evidence which may or may not come. Ideally, people should know everything before making a judgement. But in reality, it's almost always not achievable to know 100%. With that much requirement to convince you, I think that even if the forensics team said that the photo was indeed taken in 2016, you would still argue that they were just being friendly in the photo, and that the family should instead provide a photo of them making love and so on.

Given that we have limited access to what truly happened, can't we use some deductive reasoning, critical thinking or whatever technical term you call it to make a conclusion and, more importantly, make a stand and speak out?

Regarding cyberbullying, I am afraid you're too naive. Even with laws against it, there is no significant change happening. It's always been a crude fight and if you get so concerned with technical words and manners, you might lose sight of what is important or, worse, you might get overrun and whatever you fight for just gets buried in oblivion.
There is always a trade-off in everything, the world is no rosy place.

Also, being simple about things is usually better, whenever reasonable to do so, than pulling out every complicated scenario because it could go on forever and we might find ourselves not having achieved anything at all.

I say there are more reasons to believe he committed acts of pedophilia than reasons to believe otherwise.