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KSH is a liar. It's been proven. There will be no court to prove he's a pedophile. Why is he lying if he's so innocent?
We did not bully KSR, it was KSH's fans and they continue trashing her until now.

We also want clarity and, more importantly, justice. That's why we are speaking out. Otherwise, all those lies KSH and his fans have been spewing are gonna take over all the forums and socmed.

Now, regarding this pedo claim. There is no direct evidence yet and no conviction, true. However, you don't always need a direct evidence to make a judgement. Circumstantial evidence, if plenty enough, can prove someone's guilt. Aside from the evidence given so far, my simple reasoning on this is that if someone is lying so much, he's hiding the truth, which is the opposite of what he is saying. This is somewhat like proof by contradiction -- if an assertion is false, the opposite is true. Truth be told, we can never know everything that happened. So being 100% sure is a really hard ask. Much in life is not 100% sure anyway. We are working with probabilities and our capability to discern and judge.

Regarding cyberbullying, it's the reality we are in right now and it's not gonna go away soon. It's wishful thinking to say we can stop this by pleading or lecturing. Some people sit around and some people fight back. Some people fall victim (harsh reality, sorry), some people get justice. It's very much the same thing outside the cyberworld. But I am open to any solution you may have to effectively end this.

Seems like you're not even digging deeper, yet you go on assuming that we say stuffs without any proper basis. There are a lot of things already pointed out in this comment section, and in many other articles. You go on read them if you really want to know and perhaps tell us more about what real hypocrisy is.

Then, you can just sit around and wait for more evidence, nobody is stopping you. But there are people who want to help out and this is a platform for them, for us. It's still a free world. True, it's hard to filter out the words here, but we can't just sit around while his agency and his fans continue to trash KSR and even her family.

You really believe someone who lies over and over again? You should save your lecture for him, his company and his fans who truly bullied KSR.

I think I now understand where your coming from with your analysis/observation. You must be Korean or someone in East Asia where this issue is very much talked about everyday and where garosero's reputation is well known. I guess you feel like public sentiment is shifting in your country. However, outside your region, garosero guy is not even known except from maybe those avid fans of KSH who follow this issue closely and a very few others. We, regular folks, only know that KSH lied and there are proofs of his lies. Sure there are those who defend him but they are the loyalists, and they are not the majority. That's why I can say from my perspective that this issue is still very much on and the tide is not turning in KSH's favor. We just got to be patient. Evidence right now may not be conclusive yet, but we just need to wait for the forensics exam result on the photos and more evidence hopefully. But I would rather believe someone who presents evidence and is willing to have it examined than someone who lies a lot.

Exactly. Whether they terminated their contracts with him or suspended promo activities, they felt the need to keep their brands clean from any controversy because they knew that the general public criticized him.

Why would companies cut ties with an immensely popular actor if they didn't feel the pressure from the general public? That says a lot about the sentiment of actual real people, not just social media. Even if you're right that KSR's side is losing some momentum right now, this issue is still far from over. I can only say that so far KSH is losing so much and that is a little victory in itself for KSR's side. They have yet to achieve the ultimate victory though.

Yet his strategy seems to be effective. Look who's losing so much right now. This is no ideal world where everyone is given equal resources and equal voices. Their opponent has much more money and connection. While they only have that platform, and whatever cards they have they should be maximizing their use.

Source, please.

Are you telling me that Princess Diana was all powerful at that time? No, she was not, that's why she was the easy target. They couldn't bully Prince Charles who was.. well, you know the story, because he was powerful. They targeted Diana because she was 'weak' in their eyes.
Those paparazzis didn't act without the consent of their powerful owners (heard of Murdoch family). Don't you know that those royals in England very much control what comes out of the Palace. Unfortunately the palace and Diana had a fallout, so she was no longer afforded the protection that came from being a member of a powerful monarchy.

You are bothered so much by the words people are using here, yet you are not as bothered that KSH is lying and evidence suggest that he is a pedophile and a heartless human being.

Thanks but the user won't get what he/she wants.

You saying that Diana at that time was more powerful than the media then. Guess what, the media owned by rich people even by the royalty themselves were more powerful than her. Nice try, though.

Anyway, just keep your definitions with you. There's no use arguing about it. I am simply stating the proven facts about KSH. If it's bullying to you, then fine. It's nevertheless the truth.

Yup, truth is coming out. Kim Soo Hyun, please stop lying. You know you can only lie so much, but the truth always prevails. You have been caught lying over and over again. Please give your concrete proofs and don't just spew lies. Kim Sae Ron's side has proofs that even you have confirmed to be true (although you dispute the timeframe). I suggest you enlighten your fans who seem to believe a liar like you.
Please excuse if someone thinks this is bullying. I am just saying the truth that KSH is a liar!

Alright, you seem being strict with your definition, I give you that. But tell me someone powerful who got bullied. It's always the weak. Apparently, some definitions on textbooks don't really apply in real world. That much you should have learned already, considering that you've been bullied as you claim (I'm sorry if you indeed experienced that). You can go on all textbookish but in reality, it's always the weak who gets bullied. Take a look at KSR. Take a look at your school, do the popular kids get bullied? Take a look at your office, do the powerful ones get bullied?
Come on, if you want to refer to your textbook, be my guest. I am gonna stick with the real things actually happening.

So, you don't recognize the problem with your statement. The problem was you pointed out the statements from KSH's side but not the statements from KSR's side and the concrete evidence. Where is the neutrality in that?

Sure, you may have the best definition of bullying, per your experience and dictionary. But we all know what real bullying is, it's what KSH's fans did to KSR and still doing, and we don't need a dictionary for that.
If discussing the concrete proofs and using our judgement and voicing our sentiments are bullying to you, then you might as well call everyone providing their insights a bully. SOME TRUTHS JUST HURT BUT IT'S NOT BULLYING TO SPEAK THEM.
Sure, these statements about KSH are scathing, but I don't think we are bullying him. If you don't agree, then I am sorry. We have a voice and we intend to use it to find the truth and serve justice.

Come on. We all know what bullying is, we don't need the lengthy dict definitions.

You said you simply wanted to be neutral but then you referenced only the statements from his agency. Do you even recognize the problem with that?

In this era, there are already a lot of disrespectful words going around and it's not easy to control that. You reminding us about decency sure is refreshing, thanks. However, let's face reality, we can't regulate anyone here. Harsh as it may be, we can only respond with the same disrespect especially when his fans are being so unbearably rude, and hope that they learn to be respectful, which is just a wishful thinking.

Long definitions don't help your case. I could have just easily googled it but instead just stated something essentially simpler. Your point is we should stop voicing our sentiments. I'm sorry but as long as we have concrete proofs and brains to judge, we can never shut up nor defend someone who deeply wronged someone else who seems to be screaming for help even after her death, while the perpetrator merrily hops around enjoying the adulation and respect he doesn't deserve.

Again, this is no bullying. Bullying is when a person harms someone weaker out of whim. KSH is by all means a more powerful person than us, and our intention is not to have fun making someone's life miserable, but to voice our sentiments because we don't want to tolerate those cruel actions and this is the only way we could help find the truth and help someone get justice. It's being human to value and fight for truth and justice.

You can't fool anyone here except maybe your fellow fans. Your statement is crystal clear that you're defending KSH. If you were really after the truth and neutral, you would have already known about the lack of credibility of the agency's statements in contrast to the real proofs presented by KSR's side.

Again, this is no cyberbullying. Bullying is when a person harms someone weaker out of whim. KSH is by all means not weaker than us, and our intention is not to have fun making someone's life miserable, but to voice our sentiments because we don't want to tolerate those cruel actions and this is the only way we could help find the truth and help someone get justice. Believe it or not, there are still people who care about truth and justice.