I discovered thus yesterday and the writing, storyline is brilliant. The drama set in 1969 and against the events happening at that time, a Thai version of that has the look of a Jean Luc Godard/Costa_Gavras LeCarre/Le Deighton spy thriller.of the time. It’s a stand out in my view. The stars of KInnPorshe play in this and are top notch.You can’t make this movie in the west anymore. Hope the drama wins prizes/
I like this series very much. The casting of the leads is just delicious. Just when you thought that all the story to be revealed and some stability reflected after people getting used to one another there is an another plot twist and Wang Shuo showing up adds another twist to the plot.
On my Viki channel they say the series is for Taiwan and another Viki sites it's Mainland China. Which is it? Given that the Stae film commission in PRC bans BL deama since 2022 and the way this company went abt it was to not register it for a licence but put it on overseas drama sites such as Viki was pretty ballsy. China does need BL series bec BL is widely accepted by people but frowned upon by the Party I think the Party needs to cool it.But since The Untamed I think banning BL is has hurt the Party's image abroad. So with Revenged Love did they go and register the series in Taiwan even though it was filmed in the Mainland In some citywide shots it looks like Shanghai's... or am I wrong. But if this is how Mainland China's BL gets aired I'm al for it.I would like to see some BL series Made in China between the Untamed and when the ban went into place including one with Arthur Chen Feiyu and Leo Luo no one would be happier than I!
I hate watching this. Actions motivated by jealous possessive ess is sexual abuse.Eveyy move Sorn makes reeks of violence not of love.Frankly that Jun tolerates and takes the abuse because he's afraid of Sorn becoming more violent made me angry.Its really SM and Jun takes it! This is becoming too much in my view.
Fujisawa and Kiki aren't in an affair. The show is a part of a series of novels and Fujisawa gets a love interest…
Thank you. I was not aware of the story other than this series, But both are dark characters and the ferocity with what they will do if their status quo is upset I found stunning.
Modern gay horror story with straight psychopaths leading very dark lives. (Psychopathy is a serious condition that involves a lack of empathy, impulsivity, and a tendency to behave in a risky or antisocial way. People with psychopathy may also be manipulative, charming, and exploitative. )
I was struck in episode 4 when Fujisawa pressed on Sai’s toenail to see if he can feel the pain and he holds it there to see if Sai will get a reaction. What sort of sadist does that to a loved one? I mean he looks like he got pleasure from it.
Then episode 5: love scene touching and sensitive.Loved it. The rest becomes, or is becoming.a horror story.,
Rae with the crystal weather from the furniture place that Fujisawa is the designer and Kiki know the brand, Do they know each other and are they the affair? Episode 6…..
It seems for some inextricable reason that Episode 4 precedes Episode 5. Episode 4 brings what is really bugging them to a head and pushes both of them over the edge and into each others arms, it appears. Both gentlemen are gentlemen and they try to find honest fulfillment with their current mates who really couldn’t care less, only to be hideously rejected. Sei’s partner Fujisawa Kazuaki’s action of to literally bolting to his side of the apartment and going through and shutting the door behind him, making sure it stays shut, is one ultimate humiliation. It’s was quite cruel I thought and yet somehow it doesn’t seem to appear to be all that strange maybe in Japan(? just speculating ).
I had been reading for sometime that Japanese men in particular no longer think about marriage as an end in itself. That they would prefer the single life than spending ultimately many millions of Yen for a relationship that may not be lasting even though they may raise families together for a time. More trouble than its worth? That the Japanese government is beside itself because Japanese manhood likes being with other men and not doing their sacred traditional duty to marry and breed and tag the population is decreasing. And that marriage when it does occur is like the mating of eagles where wealth and power marry into wealth and power because they are the only ones who can afford to live in Japan's megacities comfortably. Or am I wrong about that?
This series set me thinking about the rising of gay relationships between high schoolers and college chums/pals/best buddies, etc., to find happiness and fulfillment and why Japanese scriptwriters are focusing on this age group to tell brilliant stories.
So from all this I am wondering if Sei and his confidant Hagiwara Kazuaki actually find fulfillment in their full and frank intensity? I hope so.
Episode 3: Love the moment where Sei and Kazuaki finished reading the emails they have sent one another and the change, the relief the two find in one another. This is gold. Rough around the edges, yes, but hauntingly mesmerizing and the knowing smiles as they realize who each other is.
"Marriage is for keeps!” “Till death us do part.!” Two couples in ‘ships, if rings were symbols of marriage and/or permanence, yet neither couple are wearing them. So relationships of convenience. Two together are better than one to share expenses. More than just being Japanese but is becoming the modern norm more and more around the world.
The straight couple in what used to be intimate are now going through the motions and for all and intents and purposes is stale/bored and sexless. H. Kazuaki is unfulfilled sexually and Shinomira isn’t interested in continuing to be mated but likes the basics a married couple status provides but providing little more than going through the motions. Shelter, food and not living alone, but gives only the basics without sex. It's been a year more and the relationship for being mated and procreating family has past. Kazuaki lives in hope this will change but now suddenly he struck up a conversation by chance, wondering through this chance connection with someone in similar unfulfilled circumstances who he can talk to about what is happening in his life.
Sei and F. Kazuaki, the gay guys, have agreed to this kind of relationship without benefits to share expenses. While Sei initially agreed, he is now clearly unhappy with the arrangement when we pick him up in the story.
I knew guys in this kind of relationship where started out with the best of intentions all ended in a tears of anger and recrimination when it came to dividing property purchased when it was all sunshine’s and roses.
So why I like this are the possibilities that can develop to guys who are basically lonely in fixed relationships and see how they will find each other. They can say this in seven episodes if the writing is tight which is how I am getting this at the moment.
I understand your skepticism but what impressed me was the performances of the two lead actors who were aged 25 (Kenshin) and 19 years (Junsei) respectively. The only other 19 years old actor I have seen carry a leading role was Iwase Yogi in Takara No Video (Takara’s Treasure) where his co-star was 24 and played Takara’s Junior.
One particular scene that was about 15 secs in the film was a scene where Junsei (Manase) goes to the water taps/faucets where Minase and Haruki cross paths for the first time. IN this scene he turns on the water, splashing water on himself and then suddenly collapses in a sobbing mess in his grief of having lost his love. To carry that you need to be able to draw from your/his personal experience of feeling to convey his sadness and move a viewer watching as an observer.
Now you can workshop and rehearse this with others but this scene is about loneliness and there is no one he can draw on for this emotion but his own in the moment. No amount of writing that moment can tell the actor how to do this. He must have it within him. That is Motojima Junsei’s brilliance in my view.
BY highlighting this scene this takes nothing away from Kamimura Kenshin’s splendid performance who and when both play off each other it is treasure to behold.
If this was the only one then I wouldn't be writing this. But the whole film is made up of many constant and brilliant moments that makes the whole series what it is.
EPISODE 11: I really had hard time accepting it initially. I wanted a wedding of the two and for time when I played the series I would not watch 11. But having settled on my disappointment of my outcome. I then started watching it again, And the subtlety of issues dealt with in 11 are brilliant.
Two scenes I applaud: The engagement celebration was deft. Not only the handling by Hiroki on testing the waters to reveal his and Jin’s relationship,
But the handling of Shiba, Jin’s study mate who always wants to know to know Jin’s business. What he is writing or if there is a girl Jin is seeing? when in the gift shop at the overnight excursion who is he buying the handkerchief for? Where Jin quickly denies there is no one.
Right at the beginning of the series Shiba warns Jin for getting ‘too close ‘ to Hiroki and warns Jin that he would have to hate Jin if he became Haruki’s friend based on what Shiba's attitude on life which comes from books. At that moment Shiba says it, Jin is at first stunned and then deflects further discussion by asking Shiba to recommend a book to read but then and there Jin is clear what he shares with Shiba and what he doesn’t. Throughout the series Shina is wants to see what Jin is writing about and Jin either says ”no!” flat out on the stairs and then in Episode 10 he has seen Jin writing in the library and Jin heads him off by saying that he should have come and said "hello". And in 11 where Haruki tests the waters to see if he can reveal their ’ship, Jin deflects about it being something you should never joke about with Shiba at the end remarking “Don’t say strange things.” Shiba comes across a pretty demonic as I see it.
But piece de resisténce is Haruki’s brilliant soliloquy at the end, on the beach where he revels the intense depth of love he feels for Jin. Not only smitten but mated for life. Great writing.
Where previously Haruki's last revelation he is cutting off the relationship and that he won’t see Jin ever in Episode 7 leaving Jin devastated. Haruki there doesn’t realize the power of his words and the devastation of Jin at hearing this. It’s Haruki’s letter which gives Jin the ability to carry on and not give up hope that he might see Haruki again.
“Our Youth” is richly interwoven and the fascination is that this story is Jin’s reply to the letter.
That’s some writing in my view. Manga a second season please but only if it has the same actors .
If you go to Tumblr and click #motojima junsei you can get this screenshot series of Jin and Haruki in wedding Tuxedos. So below is the first shot. Did the studio film a wedding sequence? Can someone please explain?
Such an excellent series from start to finish. The story, the acting, the production, everything was outstanding.…
Likewise, the pointed moments never dull. Will someone tell the production company. More between Jin and Haruki on film these two characters are pure treasure. More please.
On my Viki channel they say the series is for Taiwan and another Viki sites it's Mainland China. Which is it? Given that the Stae film commission in PRC bans BL deama since 2022 and the way this company went abt it was to not register it for a licence but put it on overseas drama sites such as Viki was pretty ballsy. China does need BL series bec BL is widely accepted by people but frowned upon by the Party I think the Party needs to cool it.But since The Untamed I think banning BL is has hurt the Party's image abroad. So with Revenged Love did they go and register the series in Taiwan even though it was filmed in the Mainland In some citywide shots it looks like Shanghai's... or am I wrong. But if this is how Mainland China's BL gets aired I'm al for it.I would like to see some BL series Made in China between the Untamed and when the ban went into place including one with Arthur Chen Feiyu and Leo Luo no one would be happier than I!
I was struck in episode 4 when Fujisawa pressed on Sai’s toenail to see if he can feel the pain and he holds it there to see if Sai will get a reaction. What sort of sadist does that to a loved one? I mean he looks like he got pleasure from it.
Then episode 5: love scene touching and sensitive.Loved it. The rest becomes, or is becoming.a horror story.,
Rae with the crystal weather from the furniture place that Fujisawa is the designer and Kiki know the brand, Do they know each other and are they the affair? Episode 6…..
That’s my two cents.
I had been reading for sometime that Japanese men in particular no longer think about marriage as an end in itself. That they would prefer the single life than spending ultimately many millions of Yen for a relationship that may not be lasting even though they may raise families together for a time. More trouble than its worth? That the Japanese government is beside itself because Japanese manhood likes being with other men and not doing their sacred traditional duty to marry and breed and tag the population is decreasing. And that marriage when it does occur is like the mating of eagles where wealth and power marry into wealth and power because they are the only ones who can afford to live in Japan's megacities comfortably. Or am I wrong about that?
This series set me thinking about the rising of gay relationships between high schoolers and college chums/pals/best buddies, etc., to find happiness and fulfillment and why Japanese scriptwriters are focusing on this age group to tell brilliant stories.
So from all this I am wondering if Sei and his confidant Hagiwara Kazuaki actually find fulfillment in their full and frank intensity? I hope so.
Two couples in ‘ships, if rings were symbols of marriage and/or permanence, yet neither couple are wearing them. So relationships of convenience. Two together are better than one to share expenses. More than just being Japanese but is becoming the modern norm more and more around the world.
The straight couple in what used to be intimate are now going through the motions and for all and intents and purposes is stale/bored and sexless. H. Kazuaki is unfulfilled sexually and Shinomira isn’t interested in continuing to be mated but likes the basics a married couple status provides but providing little more than going through the motions. Shelter, food and not living alone, but gives only the basics without sex. It's been a year more and the relationship for being mated and procreating family has past. Kazuaki lives in hope this will change but now suddenly he struck up a conversation by chance, wondering through this chance connection with someone in similar unfulfilled circumstances who he can talk to about what is happening in his life.
Sei and F. Kazuaki, the gay guys, have agreed to this kind of relationship without benefits to share expenses. While Sei initially agreed, he is now clearly unhappy with the arrangement when we pick him up in the story.
I knew guys in this kind of relationship where started out with the best of intentions all ended in a tears of anger and recrimination when it came to dividing property purchased when it was all sunshine’s and roses.
So why I like this are the possibilities that can develop to guys who are basically lonely in fixed relationships and see how they will find each other. They can say this in seven episodes if the writing is tight which is how I am getting this at the moment.
One particular scene that was about 15 secs in the film was a scene where Junsei (Manase) goes to the water taps/faucets where Minase and Haruki cross paths for the first time. IN this scene he turns on the water, splashing water on himself and then suddenly collapses in a sobbing mess in his grief of having lost his love. To carry that you need to be able to draw from your/his personal experience of feeling to convey his sadness and move a viewer watching as an observer.
Now you can workshop and rehearse this with others but this scene is about loneliness and there is no one he can draw on for this emotion but his own in the moment. No amount of writing that moment can tell the actor how to do this. He must have it within him. That is Motojima Junsei’s brilliance in my view.
BY highlighting this scene this takes nothing away from Kamimura Kenshin’s splendid performance who and when both play off each other it is treasure to behold.
If this was the only one then I wouldn't be writing this. But the whole film is made up of many constant and brilliant moments that makes the whole series what it is.
Two scenes I applaud: The engagement celebration was deft. Not only the handling by Hiroki on testing the waters to reveal his and Jin’s relationship,
But the handling of Shiba, Jin’s study mate who always wants to know to know Jin’s business. What he is writing or if there is a girl Jin is seeing? when in the gift shop at the overnight excursion who is he buying the handkerchief for? Where Jin quickly denies there is no one.
Right at the beginning of the series Shiba warns Jin for getting ‘too close ‘ to Hiroki and warns Jin that he would have to hate Jin if he became Haruki’s friend based on what Shiba's attitude on life which comes from books. At that moment Shiba says it, Jin is at first stunned and then deflects further discussion by asking Shiba to recommend a book to read but then and there Jin is clear what he shares with Shiba and what he doesn’t. Throughout the series Shina is wants to see what Jin is writing about and Jin either says ”no!” flat out on the stairs and then in Episode 10 he has seen Jin writing in the library and Jin heads him off by saying that he should have come and said "hello". And in 11 where Haruki tests the waters to see if he can reveal their ’ship, Jin deflects about it being something you should never joke about with Shiba at the end remarking “Don’t say strange things.”
Shiba comes across a pretty demonic as I see it.
But piece de resisténce is Haruki’s brilliant soliloquy at the end, on the beach where he revels the intense depth of love he feels for Jin. Not only smitten but mated for life. Great writing.
Where previously Haruki's last revelation he is cutting off the relationship and that he won’t see Jin ever in Episode 7 leaving Jin devastated. Haruki there doesn’t realize the power of his words and the devastation of Jin at hearing this. It’s Haruki’s letter which gives Jin the ability to carry on and not give up hope that he might see Haruki again.
“Our Youth” is richly interwoven and the fascination is that this story is Jin’s reply to the letter.
That’s some writing in my view. Manga a second season please but only if it has the same actors .
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