Hmm... because this site is for asian dramas and movies? This was made in the US, most people working on this…
“I’m just being polite” while repeatedly telling me I’m miserable, jealous, confused, and have a sad life is certainly an interesting definition of polite. 😂
You keep insisting I’m miserable because I disagree with you, while you keep coming back because you can’t accept that someone simply has a different opinion. The irony is doing all the work here.
Hmm... because this site is for asian dramas and movies? This was made in the US, most people working on this…
Your psychological evaluation of me keeps getting updated: first miserable, then jealous, now the “green monster.” 😂 At this rate, I’m expecting a full psychiatric report by your next reply.
Apparently questioning an MDL listing means I’m deeply upset, yet you said “bye bye,” then came back to write another paragraph about me. You might want to reconsider who sounds miserable here. 😂
Hmm... because this site is for asian dramas and movies? This was made in the US, most people working on this…
“Find a real problem in life,” says the person who started the discussion by inventing a psychological problem with everyone who disagrees with her. 😂😂😂
Hmm... because this site is for asian dramas and movies? This was made in the US, most people working on this…
“I can’t answer the argument, so I’ll diagnose the person making it”, such a classic strategy 😂 The way you are equating a question about database criteria to "ruining someone's good fortune" is just wild. MDL is a database, not a support group.
ALso, imagine accusing me of "made-up rules" while you're out here inventing random exceptions to protect a cartoon.
Hmm... because this site is for asian dramas and movies? This was made in the US, most people working on this…
The sudden shift from discussing MDL's classification rules to diagnosing the "miserable lives" of everyone who disagrees with you is honestly impressive. 😂
Apparently, if someone questions your argument, they must be jealous, unhappy and secretly furious that other people enjoy a movie. Much easier than actually answering the question, I suppose.
"People like it" isn't a classification rule, and "it doesn't hurt anyone" isn't an argument. They're just excuses for why you think this particular exception should be allowed.
The actual question is still sitting there untouched: why this US-produced animated film gets an exception while actual Asian animated films are excluded from MDL? Somehow that very simple question keeps getting buried under your increasingly creative theories about the emotional well-being of everyone who disagrees with you.
Hmm... because this site is for asian dramas and movies? This was made in the US, most people working on this…
You're still arguing against a point I didn't make.
Nobody is saying the Korean writers, artists, musicians, director, or Korean cultural influence don't matter. Of course they do. The question is what makes a production qualify for MDL's catalogue in the first place.
And this is where your argument keeps going in circles. You list six different elements that you believe make the film "Asian," but you haven't explained why those criteria should override the actual production context — an American-produced animated film, listed by MDL itself as United States — especially when MDL has apparently stated that animated films aren't generally included.
Your Le Petit Prince analogy doesn't really solve that either. A work being based on French source material or containing French creative input doesn't automatically make every adaptation a French production. You have to distinguish cultural influence, source material, creative contribution, and production origin. They're related, but they're not interchangeable.
And Sony's ownership doesn't fix this. You originally argued that Sony being Japanese makes the production Asian. When I pointed out that this logic would also make Netflix productions American simply because Netflix is American, you changed the argument to "well, it's all the elements together." That's precisely why corporate ownership isn't a useful classification by itself.
More importantly, you've still completely ignored the consistency argument raised by kokokolo.
There are actual Korean, Chinese, Japanese, Filipino, Taiwanese, Thai, Vietnamese and Indonesian animated productions that aren't on MDL. Some have also been requested. So if the rule is "animated films aren't included," what is the principle that makes this particular American animated film an exception?
"People loved it." "People petitioned for it." "The creators are Asian." "It has Korean subject matter."
Those explain why people want it on MDL. They don't establish a consistent rule for what MDL is supposed to include.
And saying "if there's something you want here, start a petition" actually reinforces the problem. If the catalogue is decided title-by-title based on how many people ask for an exception, then why have a stated inclusion rule at all? And why should users have to campaign individually for actual Asian animated productions while this one gets treated differently?
Finally, "it's not your call" is not an argument. Obviously it's ultimately MDL's decision what they include. We're discussing whether the inclusion is consistent with the site's own stated scope, not claiming that I personally get to dictate what MDL does.
So yes, KPop Demon Hunters has substantial Korean cultural influence and Asian creative contributions. That's not in dispute.
The unresolved question is simply: what objective rule makes this eligible for MDL when other Asian animated productions apparently aren't?
That's the question you've been avoiding throughout this entire discussion.
Hmm... because this site is for asian dramas and movies? This was made in the US, most people working on this…
You're basically arguing that because Sony is headquartered in Japan, an American production made by Sony Pictures Animation can be classified as Asian. By that logic, we should probably start checking the nationality of every parent company, subsidiary, investor and shareholder before deciding what country a movie belongs to.
And your hypothetical conveniently changes everything except the one detail you want to keep: corporate ownership.
If a Korean studio made an American-set movie, with American-born writers, directors, actors and designers, in English, about American culture, I wouldn't suddenly call it a Korean drama just because the Korean studio happened to be owned by a Korean conglomerate. I'd call it what it actually is: an American production with Korean corporate ownership.
Likewise, KPop Demon Hunters can have enormous Korean cultural influence, Korean creators and Korean talent involved without magically becoming a Korean production.
But there's an even bigger problem with your argument: you completely ignored the actual point raised by the other user.
There are actual Korean, Chinese, Japanese, Filipino, Taiwanese, Thai, Vietnamese, Indonesian, etc. animated productions that aren't on MDL. That's the consistency issue being raised.
If MDL's stated rule is that animated films aren't included, then making an exception because this particular animated film became popular or because people petitioned for it creates an obvious problem: what happens to all the other Asian animated films that people have also asked to have added?
"People petitioned for it" isn't really a meaningful classification system. Otherwise the catalogue isn't based on what the site actually is supposed to cover; it's based on which title gets enough people asking for an exception.
Imagine hating a movie so much that you start hating the people who like it. 🤣😂 the mental breakdowns in this comment section are insane, congrats to those who lost it to a movie. LOL
Omg the people who think this movie is brilliant have really convinced themselves that they are superior for seeing…
Omg the people who think this movie is bad have really convinced themselves that they are superior for seeing how "bad" it is. I think rather than actually disliking this movie, people get off on saying that "its for everyone, everyone understands it". Gosh what an insufferable group of people😭
All i said was "cool story bro" and you responded by diagnosing my sexuality, assigning me a political ideology, and accusing me of supporting rape 😂😂😂 https://youtu.be/l60MnDJklnM?si=clI6WOUSH3RW4MCJ
Love Exposure doesn't portray those things as "cool" 😂🤣 go back to your teen fantasy kdramas if you can't handle or even understand a Sion Sono film , stay mad bro 😘
The actors are wonderful, but it lacked the energy of the live-action movie and the creepiness of the anime. This is one of my favourite stories of all time, but this version, except for a few scenes, feels a bit soft. Shit ending.
You keep insisting I’m miserable because I disagree with you, while you keep coming back because you can’t accept that someone simply has a different opinion. The irony is doing all the work here.
Apparently questioning an MDL listing means I’m deeply upset, yet you said “bye bye,” then came back to write another paragraph about me. You might want to reconsider who sounds miserable here. 😂
ALso, imagine accusing me of "made-up rules" while you're out here inventing random exceptions to protect a cartoon.
LOL
Apparently, if someone questions your argument, they must be jealous, unhappy and secretly furious that other people enjoy a movie. Much easier than actually answering the question, I suppose.
"People like it" isn't a classification rule, and "it doesn't hurt anyone" isn't an argument. They're just excuses for why you think this particular exception should be allowed.
The actual question is still sitting there untouched: why this US-produced animated film gets an exception while actual Asian animated films are excluded from MDL? Somehow that very simple question keeps getting buried under your increasingly creative theories about the emotional well-being of everyone who disagrees with you.
Nobody is saying the Korean writers, artists, musicians, director, or Korean cultural influence don't matter. Of course they do. The question is what makes a production qualify for MDL's catalogue in the first place.
And this is where your argument keeps going in circles. You list six different elements that you believe make the film "Asian," but you haven't explained why those criteria should override the actual production context — an American-produced animated film, listed by MDL itself as United States — especially when MDL has apparently stated that animated films aren't generally included.
Your Le Petit Prince analogy doesn't really solve that either. A work being based on French source material or containing French creative input doesn't automatically make every adaptation a French production. You have to distinguish cultural influence, source material, creative contribution, and production origin. They're related, but they're not interchangeable.
And Sony's ownership doesn't fix this. You originally argued that Sony being Japanese makes the production Asian. When I pointed out that this logic would also make Netflix productions American simply because Netflix is American, you changed the argument to "well, it's all the elements together." That's precisely why corporate ownership isn't a useful classification by itself.
More importantly, you've still completely ignored the consistency argument raised by kokokolo.
There are actual Korean, Chinese, Japanese, Filipino, Taiwanese, Thai, Vietnamese and Indonesian animated productions that aren't on MDL. Some have also been requested. So if the rule is "animated films aren't included," what is the principle that makes this particular American animated film an exception?
"People loved it."
"People petitioned for it."
"The creators are Asian."
"It has Korean subject matter."
Those explain why people want it on MDL. They don't establish a consistent rule for what MDL is supposed to include.
And saying "if there's something you want here, start a petition" actually reinforces the problem. If the catalogue is decided title-by-title based on how many people ask for an exception, then why have a stated inclusion rule at all? And why should users have to campaign individually for actual Asian animated productions while this one gets treated differently?
Finally, "it's not your call" is not an argument. Obviously it's ultimately MDL's decision what they include. We're discussing whether the inclusion is consistent with the site's own stated scope, not claiming that I personally get to dictate what MDL does.
So yes, KPop Demon Hunters has substantial Korean cultural influence and Asian creative contributions. That's not in dispute.
The unresolved question is simply: what objective rule makes this eligible for MDL when other Asian animated productions apparently aren't?
That's the question you've been avoiding throughout this entire discussion.
And your hypothetical conveniently changes everything except the one detail you want to keep: corporate ownership.
If a Korean studio made an American-set movie, with American-born writers, directors, actors and designers, in English, about American culture, I wouldn't suddenly call it a Korean drama just because the Korean studio happened to be owned by a Korean conglomerate. I'd call it what it actually is: an American production with Korean corporate ownership.
Likewise, KPop Demon Hunters can have enormous Korean cultural influence, Korean creators and Korean talent involved without magically becoming a Korean production.
But there's an even bigger problem with your argument: you completely ignored the actual point raised by the other user.
There are actual Korean, Chinese, Japanese, Filipino, Taiwanese, Thai, Vietnamese, Indonesian, etc. animated productions that aren't on MDL. That's the consistency issue being raised.
If MDL's stated rule is that animated films aren't included, then making an exception because this particular animated film became popular or because people petitioned for it creates an obvious problem: what happens to all the other Asian animated films that people have also asked to have added?
"People petitioned for it" isn't really a meaningful classification system. Otherwise the catalogue isn't based on what the site actually is supposed to cover; it's based on which title gets enough people asking for an exception.
That's like saying that Netflix kdramas are american because they are owned by netflix which is based in USA. What a weak argument.